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Upgrading Hobbit

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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:55:02 -0500 ·
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
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list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:08:32 -0500 ·
Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades.  Shut down Hobbit right before 
you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
-- 

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VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:02:39 -0500 ·
quoted from Rich Smrcina
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:09 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades.  Shut down Hobbit right before 
you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
-- 
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-61add9955ef9@xymon.invalid

Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008


---

I'm installing on a CentOs 4.4 system (Red Hat based).  I'll be using
the .rpm.  I don't know where the RPM wants to install the product.  How
can I tell?
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

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XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
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list Henrik Størner · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:40:25 +0200 ·
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:55:02AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.
Grab the hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz file, unpack it and apply the allinone
patch. Configure it just like you did for the current install. Run
"make" to build it, stop your current Hobbit, run "make install"
and start Hobbit.

If you do want to use the RPM version of Hobbit as you wrote elsewhere,
the directories will probably be different from what you have now.
Moving the old files in data/{hist,histlogs,rrd} should be OK, and you
can also copy the bb-hosts, hobbit-alerts.cfg, hobbit-clients.cfg files
over from the old server/etc directory. If you made any changes to 
hobbitserver.cfg, however, those will have to be hand-made in the new
setup.  And the Apache setup will probably also have to be tuned to the
new directory layout.


Regards,
Henrik
list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:44:09 -0500 ·
Frank,

Try rpm -qpl <rpm filename>
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers


Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:09 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades.  Shut down Hobbit right before 
you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
-- 
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-61add9955ef9@xymon.invalid

Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:06:38 -0500 ·
quoted from Henrik Størner
-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:40 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:55:02AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.
Grab the hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz file, unpack it and apply the allinone
patch. Configure it just like you did for the current install. Run
"make" to build it, stop your current Hobbit, run "make install"
and start Hobbit.

If you do want to use the RPM version of Hobbit as you wrote elsewhere,
the directories will probably be different from what you have now.
Moving the old files in data/{hist,histlogs,rrd} should be OK, and you
can also copy the bb-hosts, hobbit-alerts.cfg, hobbit-clients.cfg files
over from the old server/etc directory. If you made any changes to 
hobbitserver.cfg, however, those will have to be hand-made in the new
setup.  And the Apache setup will probably also have to be tuned to the
new directory layout.


Regards,
Henrik


---

I think I'll go without using the RPMs...too much work.

Thanks for the heads up!
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
	

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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:22:32 -0500 ·
quoted from Rich Smrcina
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] 
 
Frank,

Try rpm -qpl <rpm filename>


Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:09 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades.  Shut down Hobbit right
before 
you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed at
/home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Rich Smrcina
---

Well, from the source, I get:

$ rpm -qpl hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm
hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz
hobbit-client.default
hobbit-client.init
hobbit-init.d
hobbit.logrotate
hobbit.spec

(Notice no directories)

The install package:
$ rpm -qpl FC5-hobbit-4.2.0-1.i386.rpm | more
/etc/hobbit
/etc/hobbit/bb-hosts
/etc/hobbit/bb-services
/etc/hobbit/bbcombotest.cfg
/etc/hobbit/client-local.cfg
/etc/hobbit/columndoc.csv
/etc/hobbit/hobbit-alerts.cfg
/etc/hobbit/hobbit-clients.cfg
/etc/hobbit/hobbit-nkview.cfg
/etc/hobbit/hobbit-nkview.cfg.bak
  :
  :

(Notice directory names included)

But when I tried to install the source, I got (because of permissions):
$ rpm -i ../hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm
error: cannot write to %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES

So, it appears that there is some directory information that the -qpl
switch doesn't display
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701

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list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:30:43 -0500 ·
You should be root or use sudo when installing RPMs.
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
-----Original Message-----

But when I tried to install the source, I got (because of permissions):
$ rpm -i ../hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm
error: cannot write to %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES

So, it appears that there is some directory information that the -qpl
switch doesn't display

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
-- 
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:42:31 -0500 ·
Oh, I understand that...I just didn't want it to install it there
(/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES).  (Good thing I wasn't root.)

I'm just going with the tarball where I have more control over the
installation process.

Thanks all!
signature

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
	
-----Original Message-----

quoted from Rich Smrcina
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:31 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

You should be root or use sudo when installing RPMs.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
-----Original Message-----

But when I tried to install the source, I got (because of
permissions):
$ rpm -i ../hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm
error: cannot write to %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES

So, it appears that there is some directory information that the -qpl
switch doesn't display

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
-- 
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-61add9955ef9@xymon.invalid

Catch the WAVV!  http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008


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list Frank M. Ramaekers · Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:43:09 -0500 ·
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers
-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:40 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:55:02AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit
4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping
monitoring disruption to a minimum.  Currently hobbit is installed
at
/home/hobbit.
Grab the hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz file, unpack it and apply the allinone
patch. Configure it just like you did for the current install. Run
"make" to build it, stop your current Hobbit, run "make install"
and start Hobbit.

If you do want to use the RPM version of Hobbit as you wrote
elsewhere,
the directories will probably be different from what you have now.
Moving the old files in data/{hist,histlogs,rrd} should be OK, and you
can also copy the bb-hosts, hobbit-alerts.cfg, hobbit-clients.cfg
files
over from the old server/etc directory. If you made any changes to
hobbitserver.cfg, however, those will have to be hand-made in the new
setup.  And the Apache setup will probably also have to be tuned to
the
new directory layout.


Regards,
Henrik

This worked great (first suggestion), except now I'm getting a WHITE
status for the PROCS on the hobbit server itself....gotta hunt down
which configuration file got modified...
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (XXX)XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (XXX)XXX-XXXX
Waco, Texas  76701
	
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list Martin Flemming · Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:45:25 +0200 (CEST) ·
Sorry,
does anybody know why or how long 

http://www.trantor.org/theshire/doku.php/about


is / should be down .. ?

Cheers,

       Martin
list Henrik Størner · Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:55:52 +0200 ·
quoted from Frank M. Ramaekers
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:43:09AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
This worked great (first suggestion), except now I'm getting a WHITE
status for the PROCS on the hobbit server itself....gotta hunt down
which configuration file got modified...
"white" (or "clear") just means that you haven't configured any process-
checks. I cannot recall, but it's possible this changed between the
alpha version you ran and the release version.


Regards,
Henrik
list Tom Diehl · Fri, 8 Jun 2007 23:16:16 -0400 (EDT) ·
quoted from Martin Flemming
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Martin Flemming wrote:
Sorry,
does anybody know why or how long

http://www.trantor.org/theshire/doku.php/about


is / should be down .. ?
I can reach it from here.

Regards,

Tom