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Problem with custom graphs after a re-install

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list Bill Arlofski · Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:17:34 -0500 ·
A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server required that
Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install, our custom
graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in rrd-status.log:


2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating
/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd
from 10.1.0.10: tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD


Finding very little in my searches for:

"tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"

No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for the
custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to solve this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2

--
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Bill Arlofski · Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:45:49 -0500 ·
Just bumping this... Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks
quoted from Bill Arlofski

On 03/03/13 14:17, Bill Arlofski wrote:
A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server required that
Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install, our custom
graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in rrd-status.log:


2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating
/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd
from 10.1.0.10: tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD


Finding very little in my searches for:

"tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"

No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for the
custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to solve this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2

--
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Larry Barber · Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:20:16 -0600 ·
Did you upgrade the server version? IIRC there was a release a while back
that changed the definitions of the rrd data files.

Thanks,
Larry Barber
quoted from Bill Arlofski

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Bill Arlofski <user-0b8af203a56e@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Just bumping this... Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks

On 03/03/13 14:17, Bill Arlofski wrote:
A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server required
that
Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install, our
custom
graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in
rrd-status.log:


2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating

/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/
servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd
quoted from Bill Arlofski
from 10.1.0.10: tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD


Finding very little in my searches for:

"tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"

No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for
the
custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to solve
this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2

--
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Bakkies Gatvol · Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:06:21 -0400 ·

You can also dump the rdd data and compare working vs non-working graphs 
http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrddump.en.html

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:20:16 -0600 From: user-6ef9c2864140@xymon.invalid To: user-0b8af203a56e@xymon.invalid CC: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Problem with custom graphs after a re-install  Did you upgrade the server version? IIRC there was a release a while  back that changed the definitions of the rrd data files.  Thanks, Larry Barber  On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Bill Arlofski  <user-0b8af203a56e@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-0b8af203a56e@xymon.invalid>> wrote:  Just bumping this... Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks  On 03/03/13 14:17, Bill Arlofski wrote:  > A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server  required that  > Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install,  our custom  > graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in  rrd-status.log:  >  >  > 2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating  >  /usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd<http://servername.example.org/kitchen%2cLeftRefigerator.rrd>;  > from 10.1.0.10<http://10.1.0.10>;: tmplt contains more DS definitions  than RRD  >  >  > Finding very little in my searches for:  >  > "tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"  >  > No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for the  > custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to  solve this.  >  > Any help would be greatly appreciated.  >  > Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2  >  > --  > Bill Arlofski  > Reverse Polarity, LLC  
list Bill Arlofski · Fri, 10 May 2013 09:59:58 -0400 ·
Another month, another bump. :)

Can anyone offer any suggestions where to begin looking to solve this?

I realize that the Xymon version is a little old, but all that was done was
that it was re-compiled and reinstalled. No other changes and then custom
graphs stopped working.

hobbitgraph.cfg was also not modified.

There are no other errors that I can find in logs which might indicate
anything is wrong.

Help? Please. :)
quoted from Bill Arlofski


On 03/03/13 14:17, Bill Arlofski wrote:
A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server required that
Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install, our custom
graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in rrd-status.log:


2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating
/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd
from 10.1.0.10: tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD


Finding very little in my searches for:

"tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"

No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for the
custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to solve this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2

--
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Bill Arlofski · Fri, 10 May 2013 10:04:55 -0400 ·
Not to SPAM the list, but I did just find that Bill Richardson reported this
same issue in May 2009, but never received a reply.

http://lists.xymon.com/oldarchive/2009/05/msg00221.html
quoted from Bill Arlofski


On 03/03/13 14:17, Bill Arlofski wrote:
A recent update of several libraries on a client's Xymon server required that
Xymon be re-compiled and re-installed. Ever since that re-install, our custom
graphs have stopped functioning and I see the following errors in rrd-status.log:


2013-02-08 14:17:18 RRD error updating
/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/servername.example.org/kitchen,LeftRefigerator.rrd
from 10.1.0.10: tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD


Finding very little in my searches for:

"tmplt contains more DS definitions than RRD"

No configuration files have been changed, the test data and alerts for the
custom test still work fine, so I am at a loss of where to look to solve this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Xymon version on this server is 4.3.0-0.beta2

--
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Jeremy Laidman · Mon, 13 May 2013 11:23:28 +1000 ·
Did you do what Bakkies suggested?

J
list Bill Arlofski · Mon, 13 May 2013 20:18:08 -0400 ·
OK... After checking and rechecking config files etc, etc, and then finally
giving up, I decided to see if I deleted one of the custom rrd files, maybe I
would get a better error message, or it would just work... (fat chance lol)

After deleting one of my custom rrd files and waiting a few mins, I see this
in the rrd-status.log file:

2013-05-13 19:34:30 RRD error creating
/usr/local/xymon/data/rrd/server.example.com/locationA,LeftRefigerator.rrd:
Duplicate DS name: lambda

Ah HA!!!   Now I remember that issue!

This is a custom SPLITNVC graph set in hobbitserver.cfg like so:

SPLITNCV_locationA="*:GAUGE"
SPLITNCV_locationB="*:GAUGE
SPLITNCV_locationC="*:GAUGE"

The problem is that for this particular version of hobbit 4.3-0.beta2, there
was a patch to allow for multiple plots per graph for custom graphs which I
found here:

http://lists.xymon.com/oldarchive/2010/03/msg00185.html

So, when I re-unzipped the xymon-4.3.0-beta2.tar.gz file and reinstalled from
that source, I did not apply the patch.

And unfortunately, I suspect that the patch stayed behind on the original
server when this was migrated to this new server as I believe that I copied
the ~xymon directory and moved from there during the migration


And worse (for me anyway), the link to the patch in that mailing list email is
dead.

If someone has this patch lying around, I'd really appreciate obtaining a coy
of it. :)

Moving up to v4.3.0.beta3 is not an option right now because that is the
version where a lot of the naming changes from Hobbit to Xymon took place and
I don't have the time to do that work. :)

Just thought I would comment here to close this issue out in case anyone else
is stuck working with an old version of hobbit and is trying to get custom
SPLITNCV graphs working.

-- 
Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Jeremy Laidman · Tue, 14 May 2013 14:48:42 +1000 ·
quoted from Bill Arlofski
On 14 May 2013 10:18, Bill Arlofski <user-0b8af203a56e@xymon.invalid> wrote:
And worse (for me anyway), the link to the patch in that mailing list
email is
dead.
Here's the patch:

http://lists.xymon.com/archive/2007-November/016201.html

J