Xymon Logo ?
list T.J. Yang
Glad to see hobbit got a new name. But there is still one thing important missing. Do we want to tackle the design logo icon at this time also ? tj
list Phil Meech
Such a shame something like this couldnt be used - seems like a perfect choice, albeit an infringment on another copyright: www.granneman.com/images/miltonBradleySimon.jpg Phil
list Dan McDonald
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On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:47 +0000, Phil Meech wrote:
Such a shame something like this couldnt be used - seems like a perfect choice, albeit an infringment on another copyright: www.granneman.com/images/miltonBradleySimon.jpg
No, it looks too much like the MS Window's logo... -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Paul Williamson
"McDonald, Dan" user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid> 11/10/2008 7:08 AM >> ( mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid> )No, it looks too much like the MS Window's logo...
:D How about something similar, but instead of an X, make it a Y with green, yellow and red buttons? Paul ************************************ This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient or entity, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of the information contained in the transmission. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or disclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. There are risks associated with the use of electronic transmission. The sender of this information does not control the method of transmittal or service providers and assumes no duty or obligation for the security, receipt, or third party interception of this transmission. ************************************
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:08 AM, McDonald, Dan
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<user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:47 +0000, Phil Meech wrote:Such a shame something like this couldnt be used - seems like a perfect choice, albeit an infringment on another copyright: www.granneman.com/images/miltonBradleySimon.jpgNo, it looks too much like the MS Window's logo...
Yeah, I think it looks quite ugly too :-)
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list Andrew Jackson
I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now ;-) AJ. Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid
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Subject: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
Glad to see hobbit got a new name.
But there is still one thing important missing.
Do we want to tackle the design logo icon at this time also ?
tj
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list Thomas Kern
Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
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-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid
list Ralph Mitchell
Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell
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Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid
list Vernon Everett
I agree.
Let's not rush into this.
Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does.
Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there.
I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this.
Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done.
Regards
Vernon
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From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX
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list T.J. Yang
Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email. I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections. let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. Regards T.J. Yang From: user-df5090c74128@xymon.invalid: user-69bc1fe8bfc5@xymon.invalid: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
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I agree.
Let's not rush into this.
Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does.
Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there.
I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this.
Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done.
Regards
Vernon
From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PMTo: user-2607dbc47d4f@xymon.invalid: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :)Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds"http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ?/Thomas Kern/XXX-XXX-XXXX (O)/XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
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-----Original Message-----> From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?>> I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my> insanity>> We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display>> So some sort of traffic light logo with>> X imposed on the red light - we don't want that>> Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber>> And MON with the O as the green light.>> Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual> look.>> Right I'll crawl back under my stone now> Andrew Jackson> UNIX Systems Administrator> Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey> Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU> Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX> www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email. I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections. let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.
me too!
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From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I agree. Let's not rush into this. Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does. Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there. I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this. Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done. Regards Vernon From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalidNOTICE: This email and any attachments are confidential. They may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. You must not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete both messages and all attachments. Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live
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list Michael Nemeth
Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the' re distrustful enough when not ask to pay $1000s for a product.
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T.J. Yang wrote:Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email. I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections. let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. Regards T.J. Yang From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I agree. Let's not rush into this. Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does. Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there. I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this. Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done. Regards Vernon *From:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] *Sent:* Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>]Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06
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That's always been one of the things I've never understood about companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless they pay through the nose for it. Trust you admins and let them decide if it's worthwhile. They're the ones that will be using it day to day. I'll be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make it better or they disappear altogether. =G=
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From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the' re distrustful enough when not ask to pay $1000s for a product. |I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. |I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. T.J. Yang wrote: Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email. I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections. let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. Regards T.J. Yang From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I agree. Let's not rush into this. Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does. Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there. I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this. Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done. Regards Vernon From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>
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This is a off topic of xymon logo. But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward Xymon. "Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company" This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine). Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the answer as following. Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your in-depth knowledge of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources, not just in-house admins. tj yang From: user-75d657d819e9@xymon.invalid: user-69bc1fe8bfc5@xymon.invalid: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:41 -0500Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
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That's always been one of the things I've never understood about companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless they pay through the nose for it. Trust you admins and let them decide if it's worthwhile. They're the ones that will be using it day to day. I'll be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make it better or they disappear altogether.
=G=
From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PMTo: user-2607dbc47d4f@xymon.invalid: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the' re distrustful enough when not ask to pay $1000s for a product. |I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.|I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.T.J. Yang wrote:
Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email.I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections.let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.RegardsT.J. Yang
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From: user-df5090c74128@xymon.invalid: user-69bc1fe8bfc5@xymon.invalid: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I agree. Let's not rush into this. Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does. Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there. I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this. Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done. Regards Vernon From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PMTo: user-2607dbc47d4f@xymon.invalid: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :)Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds"http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ?/Thomas Kern/XXX-XXX-XXXX (O)/XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
-----Original Message-----> From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?>> I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my> insanity>> We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display>> So some sort of traffic light logo with>> X imposed on the red light - we don't want that>> Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber>> And MON with the O as the green light.>> Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual> look.>> Right I'll crawl back under my stone now>
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T.J. Yang wrote:
This is a off topic of xymon logo. But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward Xymon. "Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company" This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine). Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the answer as following. Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your in-depth knowledge of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources, not just in-house admins. tj yang
We've offered configuration and management services for Hobbit and have had a couple of queries, but no hits. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ans Service: XXX-XXX-XXXX http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009
list Galen Johnson
That's a bit of a fallacious argument. How does a commercial product make that different? If a solution is useful, regardless of whether it is commercial or free (or "better than free"), the knowledge base is available...if anything, it's better since we know what the code looks like and (if so inclined) are able to fix the shortcomings ourselves. =G=
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From: T.J. Yang [mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:01 PM To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? This is a off topic of xymon logo. But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward Xymon. "Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company" This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine). Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the answer as following. Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your in-depth knowledge of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources, not just in-house admins. tj yang From: user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? That's always been one of the things I've never understood about companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless they pay through the nose for it. Trust you admins and let them decide if it's worthwhile. They're the ones that will be using it day to day. I'll be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make it better or they disappear altogether. =G= From: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the' re distrustful enough when not ask to pay $1000s for a product. |I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. |I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. T.J. Yang wrote: Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority. see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email. I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections. let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work. I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer. I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also. Regards T.J. Yang From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I agree. Let's not rush into this. Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does. Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there. I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this. Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done. Regards Vernon From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now Andrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; | user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid>
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list Ralph Mitchell
I think there's a certain amount of "who can we sue if it breaks" mentality. If a company contracts to pay $$$$ for a product, that gives them a big stick to beat the supplier with in the event that something goes wrong, to either fix the product or get their money back. If the product is free, worked on by a couple of guys in their spare time, there's no contract and no comeback if it breaks.
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid>wrote:
That's a bit of a fallacious argument. How does a commercial product
make that different? If a solution is useful, regardless of whether it is
commercial or free (or "better than free"), the knowledge base is
available...if anything, it's better since we know what the code looks like
and (if so inclined) are able to fix the shortcomings ourselves.
=G=
*From:* T.J. Yang [mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2008 1:01 PM
*To:* hobbit system monitoring
*Subject:* RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
This is a off topic of xymon logo.
But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward
Xymon.
"Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company"
This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine).
Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the
answer as following.
Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your
in-depth knowledge
of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources,
not just in-house admins.
tj yang
From: user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:41 -0500
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
That's always been one of the things I've never understood about
companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless
they pay through the nose for it. Trust you admins and let them decide if
it's worthwhile. They're the ones that will be using it day to day. I'll
be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth
what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make
it better or they disappear altogether.
=G=
*From:* michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the'
re distrustful enough when not
ask to pay $1000s for a product.
|I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.
|I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.
T.J. Yang wrote:
Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority.
see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to
be sent via this email.
I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors
in the devided four sections.
let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work.
I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.
I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.
Regards
T.J. Yang
From: user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
I agree.
Let's not rush into this.
Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you,
simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same
colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does.
Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other
products out there.
I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just
don't believe we need to rush into this.
Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it
isn't done.
Regards
Vernon
*From:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid<user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]
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*Sent:* Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <user-f1ebafb19faf@xymon.invalid> wrote: Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds" http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm ? /Thomas Kern /XXX-XXX-XXXX (O) /XXX-XXX-XXXX (M)-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalidSubject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone nowAndrew Jackson UNIX Systems Administrator Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU Phone: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXX | Fax: +XX (X) XX XXXX XXXXwww.ordnancesurvey.co.uk <http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/>; |user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalidNOTICE: This email and any attachments are confidential. They may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. You must not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete both messages and all attachments. Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live Click here <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/>; Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. Sign up today.<http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008>;
list Michael Nemeth
Hmm maybe this is an item for the wiki. If possible user know they can contract for help the may be more willing to try, *Support services and Consultants.* Give me an idea for my retirement in February!
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Rich Smrcina wrote:T.J. Yang wrote:This is a off topic of xymon logo. But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward Xymon. "Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company" This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine). Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the answer as following. Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your in-depth knowledge of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources, not just in-house admins. tj yangWe've offered configuration and management services for Hobbit and have had a couple of queries, but no hits.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:21:47 -0600> From: user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?> > T.J. Yang wrote:> > > > This is a off topic of xymon logo.> > > > But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) > > twoward Xymon.> > > > "Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company"> > > > This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine).> > > > Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the > > answer as following.> > > > Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your > > in-depth knowledge> > of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other > > sources, not just in-house admins.> > > > > > tj yang> > We've offered configuration and management services for Hobbit and have had a couple of > queries, but no hits.
I believe at the time of our need for commercial support, VM Assite Inc.'s service was not available at that time. I now add you company in at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/User_Guide#Commercial_Support Please provide more detail of your Xymon support service. We went with TWW for their software packaging service but the technical support part was dropped and it is hard to get the budget back given current economic situation that every company is facing. tj
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In <user-6d29701db3cf@xymon.invalid> "Ralph Mitchell" <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> writes:
I think there's a certain amount of "who can we sue if it breaks" mentality. If a company contracts to pay $$$$ for a product, that gives them a big stick to beat the supplier with in the event that something goes wrong, to either fix the product or get their money back. If the product is free, worked on by a couple of guys in their spare time, there's no contract and no comeback if it breaks.
Hey, I'll give people their money back if they're not satisfied! All
$0.00 of it!
The funny thing about this argument is
a) all software licenses I've seen have enough disclaimers in them that
any lawyer would have no problem fending off a lawsuit. So the
"we'll sue you if this doesn't get fixed" threat is meaningless.
(Can anyone point to a succesful lawsuit where a software vendor
had to pay for deficiencies in their product? I don't know of any).
b) the free software either pays off immediately, or it is junked. If
it pays off you win; if not, you've lost nothing but a couple of
days work by your techs - no big loss.
The economics seem simple enough to me. Maybe that's why I'm a techie, not
a manager :-)
Regards,
Henrik
list Josh Luthman
I can tell you that I read a story about someone reading a EULA, AUP, etc agreement with a clause that read "If you are the first to call xxx-xxx-xxxx you will get a free $300 since you took the time to read this". Turns out the company honestly gave out $300. Since then I anticipate it hasn't been done, though =) Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-6d29701db3cf@xymon.invalid> "Ralph Mitchell" <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> writes:I think there's a certain amount of "who can we sue if it breaks" mentality. If a company contracts to pay $$$$ for a product, that gives them a big stick to beat the supplier with in the event that something goes wrong, to either fix the product or get their money back. If the product is free, worked on by a couple of guys in their spare time, there's no contract and no comeback if it breaks.Hey, I'll give people their money back if they're not satisfied! All $0.00 of it! The funny thing about this argument is a) all software licenses I've seen have enough disclaimers in them that any lawyer would have no problem fending off a lawsuit. So the "we'll sue you if this doesn't get fixed" threat is meaningless. (Can anyone point to a succesful lawsuit where a software vendor had to pay for deficiencies in their product? I don't know of any). b) the free software either pays off immediately, or it is junked. If it pays off you win; if not, you've lost nothing but a couple of days work by your techs - no big loss. The economics seem simple enough to me. Maybe that's why I'm a techie, not a manager :-) Regards, Henrik
list Gary Baluha
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The economics seem simple enough to me. Maybe that's why I'm a techie, not a manager :-)
I second that! :-)
list John Turner
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-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now
Here is a quick try.....
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attachment.pnglist Michael Nemeth
Not bad , Eye catching but not to "cute" .
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John Turner wrote:-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone nowHere is a quick try.....
list Mathias Carlsson
Hi! Try set it like this: (X) (Y) M(O)N And it might strike the eye a little better... /Mathias Från: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Skickat: den 11 november 2008 11:42 Till: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Ämne: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
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Not bad , Eye catching but not to "cute" .
John Turner wrote:-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now
Here is a quick try.....
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list T.J. Yang
Great, we now have two designs to consider from http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/sandbox/tjyang/docs/logos/ tj
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From: michael nemeth
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:41 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
Not bad , Eye catching but not to "cute" .
John Turner wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone now
Here is a quick try.....
list Christopher Garrett
Hi, I'd like to add a basic logo design in to the mix. I feel that something simple would be best, and I'm not sure that having the name as part of the logo always looks good. I think a graphical logo, which can have the name next to it if you want, could offer more flexibility. Best regards, Chris.
list Richard Wachter
How about something like this . . . traffic_light.jpg<http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KdGyr2vt0KQ/SRmRizKBCaI/AAAAAAAADbY/i0yI68z5feY/s128/traffic_light.jpg>; On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Christopher Garrett
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<user-29709a3ca080@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Hi, I'd like to add a basic logo design in to the mix. I feel that something simple would be best, and I'm not sure that having the name as part of the logo always looks good. I think a graphical logo, which can have the name next to it if you want, could offer more flexibility. Best regards, Chris.
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<>< A good name is more desirable than great riches; to be esteemed is
better than silver or gold. (Pro 22:1)
list Jon Boede
How about more like... Maybe a bit more like a "cloud" around the edges...
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Christopher Garrett wrote:Hi, I'd like to add a basic logo design in to the mix. I feel that something simple would be best, and I'm not sure that having the name as part of the logo always looks good. I think a graphical logo, which can have the name next to it if you want, could offer more flexibility. Best regards, Chris.
list Josh Luthman
I really like xymong.png!!!
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On 11/11/08, Jon Boede <user-68c969ba1bfa@xymon.invalid> wrote:How about more like... Maybe a bit more like a "cloud" around the edges... Christopher Garrett wrote:Hi, I'd like to add a basic logo design in to the mix. I feel that something simple would be best, and I'm not sure that having the name as part of the logo always looks good. I think a graphical logo, which can have the name next to it if you want, could offer more flexibility. Best regards, Chris.
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Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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list T.J. Yang
Keep them coming, I will upload these logo designs to xymon sandbox svn area. http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/sandbox/tjyang/docs/logos/ T.J. Yang Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:53:08 -0600From: user-2f55610514fe@xymon.invalid: user-2607dbc47d4f@xymon.invalid: [hobbit] Re: Xymon Logo ?How about more like...Maybe a bit more like a "cloud" around the edges... Christopher Garrett wrote:
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Hi, I’d like to add a basic logo design in to the mix. I feel that something simple would be best, and I’m not sure that having the name as part of the logo always looks good. I think a graphical logo, which can have the name next to it if you want, could offer more flexibility. Best regards, Chris. Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/
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I can make that change later today. I am away from my computer now. John On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Mathias Carlsson <user-3db73aed6d27@xymon.invalid
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Hi! Try set it like this: (X) (Y) M(O)N And it might strike the eye a little better... /Mathias Från: michael nemeth [mailto:user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid] Skickat: den 11 november 2008 11:42 Till: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Ämne: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? Not bad , Eye catching but not to "cute" . John Turner wrote:-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:user-04af723659f5@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my insanity We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display So some sort of traffic light logo with X imposed on the red light - we don't want that Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber And MON with the O as the green light. Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual look. Right I'll crawl back under my stone nowHere is a quick try.....
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Mathias Carlsson wrote:
Hi! Try set it like this: (X) (Y) M(O)N And it might strike the eye a little better... /Mathias
Okay here is the change.
John
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Josh Luthman
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<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>wrote:
I really like xymong.png!!! On 11/11/08, Jon Boede <user-68c969ba1bfa@xymon.invalid> wrote:How about more like... Maybe a bit more like a "cloud" around the edges... Christopher Garrett wrote:
Ooooh! I have to second Josh; very nice!
list Josh Luthman
I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:08 PM, John Turner <user-7ffdeab7de5e@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Mathias Carlsson wrote: Hi! Try set it like this: (X) (Y) M(O)N And it might strike the eye a little better... /Mathias Okay here is the change. John
list Henrik Størner
In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:
I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...
Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
list Josh Luthman
On bb.html should there be a big grey table? bb2.html it is impossible to see the black letters on the black background.
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
list Robert Holden
I posted my "blue-theme" a while back. I realize it is not a drastic change. Here is an image, plus links to download it. http://www.securitykb.com/hobbitmon/blue-theme_screenshot.gif http://www.securitykb.com/hobbitmon/ I tested it on 4.2.0, but I don't see any reason it won't work on newer versions as it is fairly simple. Robert
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
list Stef Coene
On Tuesday 11 November 2008, Josh Luthman wrote:
I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...
It depends, for a horizontal menu -> horizontal logo. For favicon -> square, and sometimes vertical is beter. I think it is better to have different versions of the same logo so you can choose the logo that's suites best. Stef
list Greg L Hubbard
You know, a few weeks ago someone showed a reskinned Hobbit that looked nice. I am more interested in "skins" than I am in a new logo (we have managed to get by without one for years). Of course, the grand unification strategy might be to use the new logo as part of the default "skin." GLH
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Subject: Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:
I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...
Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
list Martin Flemming
I like it ! .. thanks... i remember it .... martin
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Robert Holden wrote:
I posted my "blue-theme" a while back. I realize it is not a drastic change. Here is an image, plus links to download it. http://www.securitykb.com/hobbitmon/blue-theme_screenshot.gif http://www.securitykb.com/hobbitmon/ I tested it on 4.2.0, but I don't see any reason it won't work on newer versions as it is fairly simple. Robert On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
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list Brian Bouchard
I like this one as well, but I thought I would throw one more in the mix, just because it's a little different, although again, a little more cutsie... - Brian
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From: Henrik "Størner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:54 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
In <user-f7a43acb435c@xymon.invalid> "Josh Luthman" <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> writes:
I have always preferred horizontal logos myself...
Me too. It integrates much better on the web page (at least until that design is also reworked completely). I tried putting it on the demo website http://www.xymon.com/ Not bad - we need to work a bit on getting the menu aligned correctly, but this could work. (If there's anyone out there with some web-design abilities, please speak up!) Regards, Henrik
list Galen Johnson
Only issue with this one is that it seems to imply the name is XYOmon...I like the traffic light Richard Wachter sent out earlier...especially if the green could be made to be "lit". =G=
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From: John Turner [mailto:user-7ffdeab7de5e@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:08 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Mathias Carlsson wrote:
Hi!
Try set it like this:
(X)
(Y)
M(O)N
And it might strike the eye a little better...
/Mathias
Okay here is the change.
John
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list Geoff Hallford
I am even thinking the "MON" in the horizontal one should be all green background. So you have red background "X", yellow background "Y" and green background "MON". It is more green than yellow or red because it works better :) Thoughts? 'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.' --Yogi Berra
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Only issue with this one is that it seems to imply the name is XYOmon...I like the traffic light Richard Wachter sent out earlier...especially if the green could be made to be "lit". =G= *From:* John Turner [mailto:user-7ffdeab7de5e@xymon.invalid] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:08 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Mathias Carlsson wrote: Hi! Try set it like this: (X) (Y) M(O)N And it might strike the eye a little better... /Mathias Okay here is the change. John
attachment.pnglist Richard Finegold
Attached are little concept sketches (poorly drawn in Windows Paint, I'm not an artist) integrating the M/N letters with the design. "xymonb" has all letters black, "xymonn" is an attempt at neon. (I don't know what fonts have a "y" that looks like a rotated "h".) Just throwing the idea out there... Perhaps, with the lights horizontal, applying color-blindness shaping would be better (assuming that isn't patented/trademarked and might soon [haha] become a standard). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Colourblind_traffic_signal.JPG
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid> wrote:Only issue with this one is that it seems to imply the name is XYOmon...I like the traffic light Richard Wachter sent out earlier...especially if the green could be made to be "lit".
list Marco Avvisano
I like the second (not so big). It try to put it on the right corner (on the left corner the company logo). It will be nice put it near a traffic lights gifs ( attacched). For example this is my header: <!-- The favicon image --> <link rel="shortcut icon" href="&BBSKIN/favicon-&BBBACKGROUND.ico"> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="&BBBACKGROUND" BACKGROUND="&BBSKIN/bkg-&BBBACKGROUND.gif" TEXT="#D8D8BF" LINK="#00FFAA" VLINK="#FFFF44"> <TABLE SUMMARY="Topline" WIDTH="100%"> <TR><TD HEIGHT=16> </TD></TR> <!-- For the menu bar --> <TR> <td> <div align=left><img SRC="/gifs/logo_regione.gif" align=ABSCENTER> </TD> <td> <div align=right><img SRC="/gifs/anlighta.gif" align=ABSCENTER> <b><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font color="#FFFF00"></font></font></b><img SRC="/gifs/xymon4.png" align=ABSCENTER> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD COLSPAN=3> <HR COLOR="&BBBACKGROUND" WIDTH="100%"> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> <div align=right><FONT FACE="Arial, Helvetica" SIZE="-1" COLOR="yellow"><B>Aggiornato: &BBDATE</B></FONT> <BR> What about change also the header background to black, and the color/size menu to yellow ? M. ************************************************************* Marco Avvisano Regione Toscana - Giunta Regionale Direzione Generale Organizzazione - Servizio I.I.T.R. Via di Novoli, 26 - 50127 Firenze (Italy) Tel. +XX.XXX.XXX.XXXX - Fax +XX.XXX.XXX.XXXX e-mail: user-10e48085ec84@xymon.invalid
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Subject: Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
Here are a few more variations.....
list Larry Sherman
Thought I'd throw my design into the hat....
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After talking with some co-workers (one of which has been involved in a good amount of design work) I came up with this new design....
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From: user-8d9629e8e9c7@xymon.invalid> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:18:47 -0500> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?> > Thought I'd throw my design into the hat....
I like it, thanks for the sharing.
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list John Turner
Okay last time (at least for today)....
list Geoff Hallford
I definitely like *xymon3.png.* Looks good.
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Here are a few more variations.....
list Geoff Hallford
That one is good as well, xymon10.png by John Turner. A couple of things though: 1. Probably should have a black background and white lettering 2. The colours on the diamond, could be more in-line with Hobbit colours (green, yellow, red, blue, purple...)
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After talking with some co-workers (one of which has been involved in a good amount of design work) I came up with this new design....
list Josh Luthman
I was just going to comment that myself. The black lettering will not work with a transparent background as the background of (most) Xymon pages are black.
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Geoff Hallford <user-dc9e7f30b1e2@xymon.invalid>wrote:
That one is good as well, xymon10.png by John Turner. A couple of things though: 1. Probably should have a black background and white lettering 2. The colours on the diamond, could be more in-line with Hobbit colours (green, yellow, red, blue, purple...) On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:17 AM, John Turner <user-7ffdeab7de5e@xymon.invalid> wrote:After talking with some co-workers (one of which has been involved in a good amount of design work) I came up with this new design....
attachment.pnglist Ralph Mitchell
Nice!! Ralph Mitchell
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Paul Backer <user-6e367df44179@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCare
list Josh Luthman
Paul's image is pretty good too - follows the suit of Hob...xymon liking things green.
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I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCare
list Martin Flemming
:-) .. me too ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Paul Backer wrote:
I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCare
Gruss
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list Geoff Hallford
I am a fan as well :) On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Martin Flemming <user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid>wrote:
:-)
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.. me too ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Paul Backer wrote:I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCareGruss Martin Flemming Martin Flemming DESY / IT office : Building 2b / 008a Notkestr. 85 phone : XXX - XXXX - XXXX 22603 Hamburg mail : user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid
list Jason Hand
That is very nice! -Jason
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From: Paul Backer [mailto:user-6e367df44179@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:45 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
I like green!
Paul D. Backer
BJC HealthCare
7:01 PM
list Wayne Gemmell
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 23:44:36 Paul Backer wrote:
I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCare
+1 Best design yet! -- Regards Wayne
list Marco Avvisano
very nice! M.
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To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
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Subject: Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?
I am a fan as well :)
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Martin Flemming <user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid> wrote:
:-)
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Paul Backer wrote:
I like green!
Paul D. Backer
BJC HealthCare
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Martin Flemming
Martin Flemming
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list Larry Sherman
Wow, thats really nice! Larry Sherman RBS Global Banking & Markets Office: +X XXX XXX XXXX
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I like green!
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I did this without looking at too many of the others, looks like some people had the same idea... anywhoo:
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, <user-8d9629e8e9c7@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Wow, thats really nice!
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list Richard Wachter
How about one with each color that could be swapped when the back ground color changes?
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM, J. Bobby Lopez <user-e8564da46726@xymon.invalid>wrote:
I did this without looking at too many of the others, looks like some people had the same idea... anywhoo: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, <user-8d9629e8e9c7@xymon.invalid> wrote:Wow, thats really nice! *Larry Sherman* RBS Global Banking & Markets Office: +X XXX XXX XXXX -----Original Message----- *From:* Paul Backer [mailto:user-6e367df44179@xymon.invalid] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:45 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* Re: SV: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ? I like green! Paul D. Backer BJC HealthCare * ******************************************************************** This message (including any attachments) is confidential and/or privileged. It is to be used by the intended recipients only. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are inherently insecure and susceptible to change. The Royal Bank of Scotland Group, plc ("RBS") and its US subsidiaries, and affiliates and subsidiary undertakings, including but not limited to, RBS plc New York and Connecticut Branches, RBS Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc., ABN AMRO Bank N.V. New York and Chicago Branches and, ABN AMRO Inc., Citizens Financial Group, Inc. and RBS Citizens, N.A., shall not be liable for the improper or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication or Attachment nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. RBS does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. RBS and its subsidiaries and affiliates do not guarantee the accuracy of any email or attachment, that an email will be received or that RBS or its affiliates and subsidiaries will respond to an email. RBS makes no representations that any information contained in this message (including any attachments) are appropriate for use in all locations or that transactions, securities, products, instruments or services discussed herein are available or appropriate for sale or use in all jurisdictions, or by all investors or counterparties. Those who utilize this information do so on their own initiative and are responsible for compliance with applicable local laws or regulations.******************************************************************** *-- J. Bobby Lopez Web: http://jbldata.com/ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jbobbylopez
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