graph positive and negative values
list Matthew Tice
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
list Benjamin P. August
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? ----- Message from user-9d69468ed888@xymon.invalid -----
▸
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
--
--Ben
Benjamin P. August
System Administrator - VPUE
Stanford University
list Benjamin P. August
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? ----- Message from user-9d69468ed888@xymon.invalid -----
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
-- --Ben Benjamin P. August System Administrator - VPUE Stanford University
list Benjamin P. August
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? ----- Message from user-9d69468ed888@xymon.invalid -----
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
-- --Ben Benjamin P. August System Administrator - VPUE Stanford University
list Benjamin P. August
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? ----- Message from user-9d69468ed888@xymon.invalid -----
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
-- --Ben Benjamin P. August System Administrator - VPUE Stanford University
list Benjamin P. August
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? ----- Message from user-9d69468ed888@xymon.invalid -----
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an
item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to
trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today
(when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put
my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees
below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph.
I tried modifying the current rrd tool with:
rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
(which did drop the minimum to nan) but I still couldn't get negatives to
show on the graph. I thought I'd delete the rrd and start over - but I
think now that the values are negative numbers the rrd won't even create.
Here is a snippet from my hobbitgraph and hobbitserver files
[freezer]
TITLE Freezer Temperature
YAXIS Degrees
DEF:tl=freezer.rrd:freezerf:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutf=tl,-1,*
DEF:cel=freezer.rrd:freezerc:AVERAGE
#CDEF:wipeoutc=cel,-1,*
LINE2:tl#@COLOR@:Temperature F
#LINE2:wipeoutf#@COLOR@:Temperature -F
LINE2:cel#@COLOR@:Temperature C
#LINE2:wipeoutc#@COLOR@:Temperature -C
COMMENT:\n
GPRINT:tl:LAST:Temperature F\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:tl:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:tl:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:tl:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
GPRINT:cel:LAST:Temperature C\: %2.1lf (cur)
GPRINT:cel:MAX:\: %2.1lf (max)
GPRINT:cel:MIN:\: %2.1lf (min)
GPRINT:cel:AVERAGE:\: %2.1lf (avg)\n
NCV_freezer="*:GAUGE"
(with freezer=ncv at the end of TEST2RRD and freezer and the end of GRAPHS).
Here is my script that generates the NCV for the rrd:
#!/bin/sh
COLUMN=freezer # Name of the column
COLOR=green # By default, everything is OK
[ -f ./.digitemprc ] || /usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -i
TEMPERATURE=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk '{print
$9}' | tail -1 | awk -F. '{print $1}')
if [ "${TEMPERATURE}" -gt 30 ]; then
COLOR=red
MSG="Temperature above 30 degrees"
else
COLOR=green
MSG="Temperature normal"
fi
# Section for data graphing
TEMPERATURE2_F=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $9}' | tail -1)
TEMPERATURE2_C=$(/usr/local/bin/digitemp_DS9097U -s/dev/ttyS0 -a | awk
'{print $7}' | tail -1)
echo "freezerf : ${TEMPERATURE2_F}" > $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
echo "freezerc : ${TEMPERATURE2_C}" > $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
##
$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.freezer $COLOR $MSG
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt`
`cat $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt`
"
rm $BBTMP/freezer_f.txt
rm $BBTMP/freezer_c.txt
exit 0
If anyone has an idea please let me know - I'd really like to trend this
data.
Thanks,
Matt
-- --Ben Benjamin P. August System Administrator - VPUE Stanford University
list Charles Goyard
▸
Matthew Tice wrote :
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful setting up and graphing an item that fluctuates between positive and negative values? I'm trying to trend the temperature of my freezer. When I created the rrd earlier today (when positive values were generated) the graph was functional. When I put my sensors inside the freezer (where the temperatures drop a few degrees below zero F) the values wouldn't drop below zero on the graph. I tried modifying the current rrd tool with: rrdtool tune /home/hobbit/data/rrd/tice/freezer.rrd --minimum freezerf:U
Hi, there's a small bug in hobbitd_rrd 4.2.0 which prevents negative values to be plotted. You have to upgrade to a snapshot or backport a few modifications from do_ncv.c : the "l = val + strspn(val, "0123456789.")" part and the creation arguments of the rrd file. -- Charles Goyard - user-a6cdca7046e2@xymon.invalid - (+33) 1 45 38 01 31 Orange Business Services - online multimedia // ingénierie
list Matthew Tice
▸
On Feb 19, 2008 8:29 PM, Benjamin P. August <user-e992dd5eb2a5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Is there any way to get the sensors to output in Kelvin? -
Thanks Ben, I can configure the script to convert the temperature into Kelvin's - I think I'll do that if I can't get a hold of a current snapshot. Matt
list Matthew Tice
▸
Hi, there's a small bug in hobbitd_rrd 4.2.0 which prevents negative values to be plotted. You have to upgrade to a snapshot or backport a few modifications from do_ncv.c : the "l = val + strspn(val, "0123456789.")" part and the creation arguments of the rrd file.
Thanks for the info Charles. A question you (or anyone really) might be able to answer. Where do I get the snapshot from? I thought it would be hosted on sourceforge - but when I went here ( http://hobbitmon.cvs.sourceforge.net/hobbitmon/ ) to look at the cvs repository it only has the hobbitc. Can someone point me in the right direction please? Thanks! Matt
list Charles Goyard
▸
Matthew Tice wrote :
Thanks for the info Charles. A question you (or anyone really) might be able to answer. Where do I get the snapshot from? I thought it would be hosted on sourceforge - but when I went here (
Here: http://www.hswn.dk/beta/ (from http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/, select Hobbit Project, Test Versions) Look for a thread at 19 Feb 2007 named "ncv can't handle negative values", there's some easy fixes for your case: http://hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/02/msg00305.html Regards,
▸
--
Charles Goyard - user-a6cdca7046e2@xymon.invalid - (+33) 1 45 38 01 31
Orange Business Services - online multimedia // ingénierie
list Charles Jones
▸
Matthew Tice wrote:
Hi,
there's a small bug in hobbitd_rrd 4.2.0 which prevents negative
values to
be plotted. You have to upgrade to a snapshot or backport a few
modifications from do_ncv.c : the "l = val + strspn(val,
"0123456789.")"
part and the creation arguments of the rrd file.
Thanks for the info Charles. A question you (or anyone really) might be able to answer. Where do I get the snapshot from? I thought it would be hosted on sourceforge - but when I went here ( http://hobbitmon.cvs.sourceforge.net/hobbitmon/ ) to look at the cvs repository it only has the hobbitc. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
Snapshots are here: http://www.hswn.dk/beta/ The link to it is from the http://www.hobbitmon.com page. -Charles