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bug in hobbitlaunch pause loop ?

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list Charles Goyard · Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:59:59 +0200 ·
Hi,

When setting the system clock way back, the hobbit client "stalls" and
reports get purple. Maybe hobbitlaunch should verify the clock did not
step back.

Thanks again for that great software Henrik !

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list Henrik Størner · Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:19:26 +0200 ·
quoted from Charles Goyard
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Charles Goyard wrote:
When setting the system clock way back, the hobbit client "stalls" and
reports get purple. Maybe hobbitlaunch should verify the clock did not
step back.
You'll have worse problems than simply hobbitlaunch stalling.

A lot of the Hobbit data collection is time-based; clocks jumping back
causes all sorts of "interesting" things to happen with your RRD graphs
and the history logs. Not to mention the alert-repeat mechanism.

Sure, I can fix the hobbitlaunch stalling (already have) and some other
problems that will happen in parts of Hobbit when this occurs, but I 
cannot fix the data that has been stored with a wrong timestamp.

So having your server time-sync'ed with NTP to a known good clock is more 
or less a prerequisite for running Hobbit.


Regards,
Henrik
list Al Jeffcoat · Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:17:40 -0400 ·
What happens when the time gets set back in the fall as part of daylight
savings?


Al 
quoted from Henrik Størner

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:19 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] bug in hobbitlaunch pause loop ?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Charles Goyard wrote:
When setting the system clock way back, the hobbit client "stalls" and
reports get purple. Maybe hobbitlaunch should verify the clock did not
step back.
You'll have worse problems than simply hobbitlaunch stalling.

A lot of the Hobbit data collection is time-based; clocks jumping back
causes all sorts of "interesting" things to happen with your RRD graphs
and the history logs. Not to mention the alert-repeat mechanism.

Sure, I can fix the hobbitlaunch stalling (already have) and some other
problems that will happen in parts of Hobbit when this occurs, but I 
cannot fix the data that has been stored with a wrong timestamp.

So having your server time-sync'ed with NTP to a known good clock is
more 
or less a prerequisite for running Hobbit.


Regards,
Henrik


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list Greg L Hubbard · Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:44:41 -0500 ·
On UNIX systems, the clock will not change during "spring forward" or
"fall back" DST operations.  All that changes are the rules for
calculating the timezone offset from the system clock for display
purposes.

GLH
quoted from Al Jeffcoat

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffcoat, Al [mailto:user-eca780a472ed@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:18 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] bug in hobbitlaunch pause loop ?

What happens when the time gets set back in the fall as part of daylight
savings?


Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:19 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] bug in hobbitlaunch pause loop ?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Charles Goyard wrote:
When setting the system clock way back, the hobbit client "stalls" and
reports get purple. Maybe hobbitlaunch should verify the clock did not
step back.
You'll have worse problems than simply hobbitlaunch stalling.

A lot of the Hobbit data collection is time-based; clocks jumping back
causes all sorts of "interesting" things to happen with your RRD graphs
and the history logs. Not to mention the alert-repeat mechanism.

Sure, I can fix the hobbitlaunch stalling (already have) and some other
problems that will happen in parts of Hobbit when this occurs, but I
cannot fix the data that has been stored with a wrong timestamp.

So having your server time-sync'ed with NTP to a known good clock is
more or less a prerequisite for running Hobbit.


Regards,
Henrik


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list Daniel J McDonald · Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:45:17 -0500 ·
quoted from Greg L Hubbard
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 13:17 -0400, Jeffcoat, Al wrote:
What happens when the time gets set back in the fall as part of daylight
savings?
Nothing.  The time is stored as UTC timeticks.  It uses /etc/localtime
to translate that into a local time designation.
quoted from Greg L Hubbard
Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:19 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] bug in hobbitlaunch pause loop ?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 03:59:59PM +0200, Charles Goyard wrote:
When setting the system clock way back, the hobbit client "stalls" and
reports get purple. Maybe hobbitlaunch should verify the clock did not
step back.
You'll have worse problems than simply hobbitlaunch stalling.
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