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list Stewart Larsen · Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:41:03 -0400 ·
So, I have a bit of a situation.

I have a number of firewalls of various models that I am querying via SNMP for their interface statistics.

Some have 6 ports on them, some have 8.
Some are named port1,port2,port3, etc.  Some are named inertnal,external,wan1, etc.

I'd like to get around having to do a custom rrd setup for each model of firewall.

in that vein, it would be nice if I can get the data stored in a separate RRD file for each interface (the same way that there is a separate RRD file for each partition on a disk test) so that I can use the file @RRDFN@ and @RRDPARAM@ stuff to work, but I'm unsure how to do that.

little help?


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list Charles Goyard · Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:07:01 +0200 ·
quoted from Stewart Larsen
Stewart wrote :
So, I have a bit of a situation.

in that vein, it would be nice if I can get the data stored in a 
separate RRD file for each interface (the same way that there is a 
separate RRD file for each partition on a disk test) so that I can use 
the file @RRDFN@ and @RRDPARAM@ stuff to work, but I'm unsure how to do 
that.

little help?
Hi,

I posted a patch some time ago that Henrik ignored, but it permits one
to do that very thing.

I provide it again in case Henrik notices this time :)


------------ (Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:07:07 +0100 ) ----
Hi all,

here is a patch that provides two new features to the NCV graph backend.
It answers to a request I did on August 2nd (subject: "Dynamic or Split
NCV").

- split-ncv : Lets you store an ever-changing set of data on a status
  column basis. Say, you want to keep track of who is accessing a
  database. It works by creating a rrd file per ncv line instead of
  packing a lot of DS in a single rrd file. I use it to keep track of
  tomcat session number per context, harddrive temperature, database
  connexions, and a whole bunch of other things, such a the repartition
of
  loaded classes on a jvm (useful to find memory leaks).

- trackmax : it lets you keep track of the maximum value of a dataset,
  along with the average. It's useful when the maximum is somehow as
  significant than the average over time. (say, to track a hard-limited
  ressource, such as telephone lines). I use it to keep track of the
  maximum number of busy X25 lines on a specific application. It only
  works for NCV at the time, but I may add it to other tests.

The patch includes the documentation for all this. It applies on today's
snapshot and on october' all-in-one. It does not work with the plain
release because of a nasty bug in do_ncv.c.

Well, here's the patch. Consider it beta, but yet it works on my
production server. I strongly hope it will be included in the
mainstream hobbit (I don't like maintaining local patches :)).


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list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:12:49 -0500 ·
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The 
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.

Certainly responses to some emails aren't very timely, if they come at 
all, but I would not fault Henrik for that.  I can appreciate that there 
are formidable demands for his time from many fronts, particularly with 
a project of this magnitude (not to mention his 'real' job).

I think your patch will be very useful and have asked about their 
inclusion in the next release of Hobbit. I wasn't going to get too 
worried about it until some alpha or beta type code is available.
quoted from Charles Goyard

Charles Goyard wrote:
Stewart wrote :
So, I have a bit of a situation.

in that vein, it would be nice if I can get the data stored in a 
separate RRD file for each interface (the same way that there is a 
separate RRD file for each partition on a disk test) so that I can use 
the file @RRDFN@ and @RRDPARAM@ stuff to work, but I'm unsure how to do 
that.

little help?
Hi,

I posted a patch some time ago that Henrik ignored, but it permits one
to do that very thing.

I provide it again in case Henrik notices this time :)


------------ (Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:07:07 +0100 ) ----
Hi all,

here is a patch that provides two new features to the NCV graph backend.
It answers to a request I did on August 2nd (subject: "Dynamic or Split
NCV").

- split-ncv : Lets you store an ever-changing set of data on a status
  column basis. Say, you want to keep track of who is accessing a
  database. It works by creating a rrd file per ncv line instead of
  packing a lot of DS in a single rrd file. I use it to keep track of
  tomcat session number per context, harddrive temperature, database
  connexions, and a whole bunch of other things, such a the repartition
of
  loaded classes on a jvm (useful to find memory leaks).

- trackmax : it lets you keep track of the maximum value of a dataset,
  along with the average. It's useful when the maximum is somehow as
  significant than the average over time. (say, to track a hard-limited
  ressource, such as telephone lines). I use it to keep track of the
  maximum number of busy X25 lines on a specific application. It only
  works for NCV at the time, but I may add it to other tests.

The patch includes the documentation for all this. It applies on today's
snapshot and on october' all-in-one. It does not work with the plain
release because of a nasty bug in do_ncv.c.

Well, here's the patch. Consider it beta, but yet it works on my
production server. I strongly hope it will be included in the
mainstream hobbit (I don't like maintaining local patches :)).


diff -u -x .svn -x '*~' -x hobbitd.c -x Makefile -rw upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/do_rrd.c cvf/hobbitd/do_rrd.c
--- upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/do_rrd.c	2006-11-24 17:18:09.000000000 +0100
+++ cvf/hobbitd/do_rrd.c	2006-12-15 15:47:58.000000000 +0100
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
 #include "do_rrd.h"
 
 char *rrddir = NULL;
+char *trackmax = NULL;
 static char *exthandler = NULL;
 static char **extids = NULL;
 
@@ -37,11 +38,16 @@
 static char rra2[] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:6:576";
 static char rra3[] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:576";
 static char rra4[] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:288:576";
+static char rra5[] = "RRA:MAX:0.5:1:576";
+static char rra6[] = "RRA:MAX:0.5:6:576";
+static char rra7[] = "RRA:MAX:0.5:24:576";
+static char rra8[] = "RRA:MAX:0.5:288:576";
 
 static char *senderip = NULL;
 static char rrdfn[PATH_MAX];	/* This one used by the modules */
 static char filedir[PATH_MAX];	/* This one used here */
 
• void setup_exthandler(char *handlerpath, char *ids)
 {
 	char *p;
@@ -100,6 +106,24 @@
 	rrdfn[sizeof(rrdfn)-1] = '\0';
 }
 
+static int has_trackmax(char *testname)
+{
+	char testnamecoma[strlen(testname)+3];
• +	if(trackmax == NULL) {
+		return 0;
+	}
• +	sprintf(testnamecoma, ",%s,", testname);
+	if(strstr(trackmax, testnamecoma)) {
+		return 1;
+	}
+	else {
+		return 0;
+	}
+}
• +
 static int create_and_update_rrd(char *hostname, char *fn, char *creparams[], char *template)
 {
 	struct stat st;
diff -u -x .svn -x '*~' -x hobbitd.c -x Makefile -rw upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/do_rrd.h cvf/hobbitd/do_rrd.h
--- upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/do_rrd.h	2006-11-24 17:18:09.000000000 +0100
+++ cvf/hobbitd/do_rrd.h	2006-11-24 17:55:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
 #include "libbbgen.h"
 
 extern char *rrddir;
+extern char *trackmax;
 extern void setup_exthandler(char *handlerpath, char *ids);
 extern void update_rrd(char *hostname, char *testname, char *restofmsg, time_t tstamp, char *sender, hobbitrrd_t *ldef);
 
Only in cvf/hobbitd/: hobbitd_cvfinventaire.c
diff -u -x .svn -x '*~' -x hobbitd.c -x Makefile -rw upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.8 cvf/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.8
--- upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.8	2006-11-24 17:18:09.000000000 +0100
+++ cvf/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.8	2006-11-24 17:55:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -65,6 +65,16 @@
 Defines the types of data collected by the "ncv" module in hobbitd_rrd.
 See below for more information.
 
+.IP SPLITNCV_testname
+The same as NCV_testname, but keeps the data into separate files. That
+is, it creates one rrd file per "NAME : value" line found in the
+status message. It is useful when the list of NCV lines is varying.
• +.IP TRACKMAX
+Comma-separated list of columnname for which you want to keep the
+maximum values along with the default average values. This only works
+ for the NCV backend.
• .SH COLLECTED DATA
 The following RRD-file datasets are generated by hobbitd_rrd:
 
@@ -152,18 +162,22 @@
 or "NAME = value". So a generic module in hobbitd_rrd allows for
 easy tracking of this type of data.
 
-The "ncv" module will automatically detect all occurrences of
-a "NAME : value" or "NAME = value" string in a status message, and
-generate an RRD file holding all of the name/value data found in
-the message. The colon- or equal-sign must be present - if there is
-only whitespace, this module will fail.
+ The "ncv" module will automatically detect all occurrences of a "NAME
+ : value" or "NAME = value" string in a status message, and generate an
+ RRD file holding all of the name/value data found in the message
+ (unless you use SPLITNCV, see above). The colon- or equal-sign must be
+ present - if there is only whitespace, this module will fail.
 
 Only the valid letters (A-Z, a-z) and digits (0-9) are used in the 
 dataset names; whitespace and other characters are stripped off 
-automatically. Only the first 19 characters of a dataset name are
-used (this is an RRD limitation). Underscore '_' is not allowed,
-even though RRDtool permits this, and will be stripped from the
-name.
+ automatically. Only the first 19 characters of a dataset name are used
+ (this is an RRD limitation). Underscore '_' is not allowed, even
+ though RRDtool permits this, and will be stripped from the name.
• + When using the alternative SPLITNCV_testname, the dataset name is not
+ limited in length, and non-valid characters are changed to underscores
+ instead of being stripped off. The dataset inside the resulting rrd
+ file is always "lambda.
 
 Note that each "NAME : value" must be on a line by itself. If you have
 a custom script generating the status- or data-message that is fed
@@ -177,12 +191,13 @@
 all status-messages for the column COLUMNNAME through the hobbitd_rrd
 ncv-handler.
 
-The name of the RRD file will be COLUMNNAME.rrd.
+The name of the RRD file will be COLUMNNAME.rrd. When using SPLITNCV,
+the name of the RRD file will be COLUMNAME,DATASETNAME.rrd.
 
 By default, all of the datasets are generated as the RRD type "DERIVE"
 which works for all types of monotonically increasing counters. If you 
 have data that are of the type GAUGE, you can override the default via
-an environment variable NCV_COLUMNNAME. 
+an environment variable NCV_COLUMNNAME (or SPLITNCV_COLUMNAME). 
 
 E.g. if you are using the bb-mysqlstatus script from www.deadcat.net to 
 collect data about your MySQL server, it generates a report in the column 
diff -u -x .svn -x '*~' -x hobbitd.c -x Makefile -rw upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.c cvf/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.c
--- upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.c	2006-11-24 17:18:09.000000000 +0100
+++ cvf/hobbitd/hobbitd_rrd.c	2006-12-28 18:35:27.000000000 +0100
@@ -74,6 +74,13 @@
 		rrddir = strdup(xgetenv("BBRRDS"));
 	}
 
+	/* trackmax initialization */
+	if(getenv("TRACKMAX")) {
+		trackmax = (char*)malloc(strlen(getenv("TRACKMAX"))+3);
+		sprintf(trackmax, ",%s,", getenv("TRACKMAX"));
+		dbgprintf("Will track max for: %s\n", trackmax);
+	}
• save_errbuf = 0;
 	setup_signalhandler("hobbitd_rrd");
 	memset(&sa, 0, sizeof(sa));
@@ -139,7 +146,7 @@
 				break;
 
 			  default:
-				/* Ignore reports with purple, blue or clear - they have no data we want. */
+				/* Ignore reports with purple or clear - they have no data we want. */
 				break;
 			}
 		}
diff -u -x .svn -x '*~' -x hobbitd.c -x Makefile -rw upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/rrd/do_ncv.c cvf/hobbitd/rrd/do_ncv.c
--- upstream-2006-10-03/hobbitd/rrd/do_ncv.c	2006-11-24 17:18:57.000000000 +0100
+++ cvf/hobbitd/rrd/do_ncv.c	2006-12-28 18:42:58.000000000 +0100
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
 /*     NAME: VALUE                                                            */
 /*                                                                            */
 /* Copyright (C) 2004-2006 Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid>                    */
+/* split-ncv added by Charles Goyard November 2006                            */
 /*                                                                            */
 /* This program is released under the GNU General Public License (GPL),       */
 /* version 2. See the file "COPYING" for details.                             */
@@ -17,21 +18,30 @@
 { 
 	char **params = NULL;
 	int paridx;
-	char dsdef[1024];
+	char dsdef[1024];     /* destination DS syntax for rrd engine */
 	char *l, *name, *val;
 	char *envnam;
-	char *dstypes = NULL;
• -	setupfn("%s.rrd", testname);
+	char *dstypes = NULL; /* contain NCV_testname value*/
+	int split_ncv = 0;
+	int dslen;
 	sprintf(rrdvalues, "%d", (int)tstamp);
• params = (char **)calloc(8, sizeof(char *));
 	params[0] = "rrdcreate";
-	params[1] = rrdfn;
 	paridx = 1;
 
-	envnam = (char *)malloc(4 + strlen(testname) + 1); sprintf(envnam, "NCV_%s", testname);
+	envnam = (char *)malloc(9 + strlen(testname) + 1);
+	sprintf(envnam, "SPLITNCV_%s", testname);
+	l = getenv(envnam);
+	if (l) {
+		split_ncv = 1;
+		dslen = 200;
+	}
+	else {
+		dslen = 19;
+		setupfn("%s.rrd", testname);
+		sprintf(envnam, "NCV_%s", testname);
 	l = getenv(envnam);
+	}
 	if (l) {
 		dstypes = (char *)malloc(strlen(l)+3);
 		sprintf(dstypes, ",%s,", l);
@@ -84,62 +94,128 @@
 
 			strtod(val, &endptr);
 			if (isspace((int)*endptr) || (*endptr == '\0')) {
-				char dsname[20];
-				char dskey[22];
-				char *dstype = NULL;
+				char dsname[250];    /* name of ncv in status message (with space and al) */
+				char dskey[252];     /* name of final DS key (stripped)                   */
+				char *dstype = NULL; /* type of final DS                                  */
 				char *inp;
 				int outidx;
• /* val contains a valid number */
-				/* rrdcreate(1) says: ds must be in the set [a-zA-Z0-9_] */
-				for (inp=name,outidx=0; (*inp && (outidx < 19)); inp++) {
+				/* rrdcreate(1) says: ds must be in the set [a-zA-Z0-9_] ... */
+				for (inp=name,outidx=0; (*inp && (outidx < dslen)); inp++) {
 					if ( ((*inp >= 'A') && (*inp <= 'Z')) ||
 					     ((*inp >= 'a') && (*inp <= 'z')) ||
 					     ((*inp >= '0') && (*inp <= '9'))    ) {
 						dsname[outidx++] = *inp;
 					}
+					/* ... however, for split ncv, we replace anything else  */
+					/* with an underscore, compacting successive invalid     */
+					/* characters into a single one                          */
+					else if (split_ncv && (dsname[outidx - 1] != '_')) {
+						dsname[outidx++] = '_';
+					}
 				}
+				if(dsname[outidx-1] == '_') {
+					dsname[outidx-1] = '\0';
+				}
+				else {
 				dsname[outidx] = '\0';
+				}
 				sprintf(dskey, ",%s:", dsname);
+				if(split_ncv) {
+					/* setupfn("%s,%s.rrd", testname, dsname); */
+					snprintf(rrdfn, sizeof(rrdfn)-1, "%s,%s.rrd", testname,dsname);
+					rrdfn[sizeof(rrdfn)-1] = '\0';
• +					params[1] = rrdfn;
+					paridx = 1;
+				}
 
 				if (dstypes) {
 					dstype = strstr(dstypes, dskey);
-					if (!dstype) { strcpy(dskey, ",*:"); dstype = strstr(dstypes, dskey); }
+					if (!dstype) {
+						strcpy(dskey, ",*:");
+						dstype = strstr(dstypes, dskey);
+					}
 				}
 
-				if (dstype) {
+				if (dstype) { /* if ds type is forced */
 					char *p;
 
 					dstype += strlen(dskey);
 					p = strchr(dstype, ','); if (p) *p = '\0';
+					if(split_ncv) {
+						sprintf(dsdef, "DS:lambda:%s:600:0:U", dstype);
+					}
+					else {
 					sprintf(dsdef, "DS:%s:%s:600:0:U", dsname, dstype);
+					}
 					if (p) *p = ',';
 				}
+				else { /* nothing specified in the environnement, and no '*:' default */
+					if(split_ncv) {
+						strcpy(dsdef, "DS:lambda:DERIVE:600:0:U");
+					}
 				else {
 					sprintf(dsdef, "DS:%s:DERIVE:600:0:U", dsname);
 				}
+				}
 
-				if (!dstype || (strncasecmp(dstype, "NONE", 4) != 0)) {
+				if (!dstype || (strncasecmp(dstype, "NONE", 4) != 0)) { /* if we have something */
 					paridx++;
 					params = (char **)realloc(params, (7 + paridx)*sizeof(char *));
 					params[paridx] = strdup(dsdef);
 					params[paridx+1] = NULL;
• sprintf(rrdvalues+strlen(rrdvalues), ":%s", val);
 				}
 			}
• +			if(split_ncv && (paridx > 1)) {
+				int i;
+				params[++paridx] = strdup(rra1);
+				params[++paridx] = strdup(rra2);
+				params[++paridx] = strdup(rra3);
+				params[++paridx] = strdup(rra4);
• +				if(has_trackmax(testname)) {
+					params = (char **)realloc(params, (11 + paridx)*sizeof(char *));
+					params[++paridx] = strdup(rra5);
+					params[++paridx] = strdup(rra6);
+					params[++paridx] = strdup(rra7);
+					params[++paridx] = strdup(rra8);
+				}
• +				params[++paridx] = NULL;
+				create_and_update_rrd(hostname, rrdfn, params, NULL);
+				for(i = 2 ; i<paridx ; i++) {
+					params[i] = NULL;
+				}
+				sprintf(rrdvalues, "%d", (int)tstamp);
 		}
 	}
 
-	if (paridx > 1) {
+	} /* end of while */
• +	if (split_ncv) {
+		for (paridx=2; (params[paridx] != NULL); paridx++) {
+			xfree(params[paridx]);
+		}
+	}
+	else if(paridx > 1) {
 		params[++paridx] = strdup(rra1);
 		params[++paridx] = strdup(rra2);
 		params[++paridx] = strdup(rra3);
 		params[++paridx] = strdup(rra4);
-		params[++paridx] = NULL;
 
-		create_and_update_rrd(hostname, rrdfn, params, NULL);
+		if(has_trackmax(testname)) {
+			params = (char **)realloc(params, (11 + paridx)*sizeof(char *));
+			params[++paridx] = strdup(rra5);
+			params[++paridx] = strdup(rra6);
+			params[++paridx] = strdup(rra7);
+			params[++paridx] = strdup(rra8);
+		}
 
+		params[++paridx] = NULL;
+		create_and_update_rrd(hostname, rrdfn, params, NULL);
 		for (paridx=2; (params[paridx] != NULL); paridx++)
 		xfree(params[paridx]);
 	}

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list Stef Coene · Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:29:25 +0200 ·
quoted from Rich Smrcina
On Thursday 29 March 2007, Rich Smrcina wrote:
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.

Certainly responses to some emails aren't very timely, if they come at
all, but I would not fault Henrik for that.  I can appreciate that there
are formidable demands for his time from many fronts, particularly with
a project of this magnitude (not to mention his 'real' job).
I also have a mixed feeling.  I submitted some patches and ideas to improve AIX monitoring.  I didn't got a response so I don't know if Henrik is not interested and/or not saw the message.  I just hope he will include the changes in a next release.
On the other hand, I know Henrik is a great guy because he created some patches for me that where just what I needed :)  When he is ever in Belgium, I will pay he some beers....


Stef
list Gary Baluha · Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:37:00 -0400 ·
I've found in the past that he'll often silently incorporate these patches.
I understand a lot of work has been done for the upcoming Hobbit release,
but other obligations prevent him from being more active in communication.
Actually, I've noticed in the past couple of months that Henrik hasn't been
spending as much time in the mailing list.  Having just come out of several
very busy months at work myself, I can sympathize.
quoted from Stef Coene

On 3/29/07, Stef Coene <user-dbffe946c0f4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Thursday 29 March 2007, Rich Smrcina wrote:
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.

Certainly responses to some emails aren't very timely, if they come at
all, but I would not fault Henrik for that.  I can appreciate that there
are formidable demands for his time from many fronts, particularly with
a project of this magnitude (not to mention his 'real' job).
I also have a mixed feeling.  I submitted some patches and ideas to
improve
AIX monitoring.  I didn't got a response so I don't know if Henrik is not
interested and/or not saw the message.  I just hope he will include the
changes in a next release.
On the other hand, I know Henrik is a great guy because he created some
patches for me that where just what I needed :)  When he is ever in
Belgium,
I will pay he some beers....


Stef

list Stef Coene · Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:20:23 +0200 ·
quoted from Gary Baluha
On Thursday 29 March 2007, Gary Baluha wrote:
I've found in the past that he'll often silently incorporate these patches.
I understand a lot of work has been done for the upcoming Hobbit release,
but other obligations prevent him from being more active in communication.
Actually, I've noticed in the past couple of months that Henrik hasn't been
spending as much time in the mailing list.  Having just come out of several
very busy months at work myself, I can sympathize.
No problem, I will wait for a release candidate and see if I can improve the 
release.


Stef
list Charles Goyard · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:51:44 +0200 ·
Hi,

just to make things clear : I have absolutly no anger nor bitterness
towards Henrik.  I had some private conversation with him and found out
he's a sweet guy, and he does a wonderful job with hobbit.

I know Henrik is quite busy, but this feature has been asked several
times on the list. In fact, I start to believe messages from me simply
fall in his spambox.

Regards,
quoted from Rich Smrcina


Rich Smrcina wrote :
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The 
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.
I posted a patch some time ago that Henrik ignored, but it permits one
to do that very thing.

I provide it again in case Henrik notices this time :)

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list Rich Smrcina · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:55:24 -0500 ·
Fair enough and I've had similar experiences, but I'm just choking it up 
to him being extremely busy.
quoted from Charles Goyard

Charles Goyard wrote:
Hi,

just to make things clear : I have absolutly no anger nor bitterness
towards Henrik.  I had some private conversation with him and found out
he's a sweet guy, and he does a wonderful job with hobbit.

I know Henrik is quite busy, but this feature has been asked several
times on the list. In fact, I start to believe messages from me simply
fall in his spambox.

Regards,


Rich Smrcina wrote :
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The 
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.
I posted a patch some time ago that Henrik ignored, but it permits one
to do that very thing.

I provide it again in case Henrik notices this time :)
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list T.J. Yang · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:22:53 -0500 ·
quoted from Charles Goyard
From: Charles Goyard <user-a6cdca7046e2@xymon.invalid>
Reply-To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Custom graphs again
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:51:44 +0200

Hi,

just to make things clear : I have absolutly no anger nor bitterness
towards Henrik.  I had some private conversation with him and found out
he's a sweet guy, and he does a wonderful job with hobbit.

I know Henrik is quite busy, but this feature has been asked several
times on the list. In fact, I start to believe messages from me simply
fall in his spambox.
I think we have a SPOF(single point of failure) here in terms of hobbit 
development model.
Two possible causes,

First is no other person willing to step up to participate in the hb 
development on a regular basis.
I can understand why, not many people can spend time on quality coding 
without pay.

The second one is Henrik still want to have full  control of hb 
development,releases.

Any constructive comments toward this HB SPOF problem ?


tj
quoted from Rich Smrcina

Regards,


Rich Smrcina wrote :
Ooohhh, Charles, don't you think 'ignore' is a little strong?  The
smileys in your message say one thing, but the wording quite another.
I posted a patch some time ago that Henrik ignored, but it permits one
to do that very thing.

I provide it again in case Henrik notices this time :)

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list Neil D. ManTech Ctr Camp · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:43:35 -0400 ·
 Hello all,

I have a question about metrics. My boss is looking for a way to track
our application and database uptime metrics. I already do simple
connection checks to the databases and applications, but that really is
not a good indicator. The application/database could be down, but the IP
address would still be available. I was wondering if/how anyone in the
community is using Hobbit to watch/monitor application/database uptime
metrics. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank
you!
list Ulric Eriksson · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:23:00 +0200 (CEST) ·
quoted from Neil D. ManTech Ctr Camp

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Camp, Neil D. (ManTech) CTR wrote:
I have a question about metrics. My boss is looking for a way to track
our application and database uptime metrics. I already do simple
connection checks to the databases and applications, but that really is
not a good indicator. The application/database could be down, but the IP
address would still be available. I was wondering if/how anyone in the
community is using Hobbit to watch/monitor application/database uptime
metrics. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank
you!
Write an ext script that mimics a user interacting with the 
application, then use that to measure availability. This is 
trivial for most databases and web applications.

Ulric
list Stef Coene · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:25:10 +0200 ·
quoted from Charles Goyard
On Friday 30 March 2007, Charles Goyard wrote:
Hi,

just to make things clear : I have absolutly no anger nor bitterness
towards Henrik.  I had some private conversation with him and found out
he's a sweet guy, and he does a wonderful job with hobbit.

I know Henrik is quite busy, but this feature has been asked several
times on the list. In fact, I start to believe messages from me simply
fall in his spambox.
If there is demand for it, I'm willing to collect patches / changes / updates and put them online.  I _don't_ want to start an other hobbit version.
But if someone is collecting them and people are testing them, it's maybe easier for Henrik to know a) they are working and b) people will use the changes.


Stef
list Stef Coene · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:40:13 +0200 ·
On Friday 30 March 2007, T.J. Yang wrote:
Any constructive comments toward this HB SPOF problem ?
See my other post.
I think linux kernel development team had the same problem.  I don't know if this is the case right now, but at a certain point there where different versions with different patches.  This was for testing and all changes that were good enough where committed the the Linus kernel tree.

So, I'm willing to collect patches and create a patched version of hobbit.  At the end, it is Henrik who decides what he will do with the patches.  But at least he knows that these patches are used and tested.


Stef
list T.J. Yang · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:19:24 -0500 ·
quoted from Stef Coene
From: Stef Coene <user-dbffe946c0f4@xymon.invalid>
Reply-To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Custom graphs again
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:40:13 +0200

On Friday 30 March 2007, T.J. Yang wrote:
Any constructive comments toward this HB SPOF problem ?
See my other post.
I think linux kernel development team had the same problem.  I don't know if
this is the case right now, but at a certain point there where different
versions with different patches.  This was for testing and all changes that
were good enough where committed the the Linus kernel tree.
So, I'm willing to collect patches and create a patched version of hobbit.  At
the end, it is Henrik who decides what he will do with the patches.  But at
least he knows that these patches are used and tested.
I think the hobbit project on sourceforge.net has means to support the community hb development. It is for some reason I don't know that there is no hb development activity
on  http://sourceforge.net/projects/hobbitmon/.

Perhaps you can ask Henrik's permission to have an account on sourceforge.
I will participate also if I get permission.


tj

Stef

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list Stef Coene · Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:46:15 +0200 ·
quoted from T.J. Yang
On Friday 30 March 2007, T.J. Yang wrote:
I think the hobbit project on sourceforge.net has means to support the
community hb development. It is for some reason I don't know that there is
no hb development activity
on  http://sourceforge.net/projects/hobbitmon/.

Perhaps you can ask Henrik's permission to have an account on sourceforge.
I will participate also if I get permission.
Henrik, any comments ???

What do you think?  How can we help developing hobbit?


Stef