Windows logs.
list Thomas Pedersen
Hi ! Any of you had to monitor logs on a windows box where the file is located in a directory with spaces in ? bb-msgs.pl version 1.1 breaks if I try. /Thomas
list Allan Spencer
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Thomas wrote:
Hi ! Any of you had to monitor logs on a windows box where the file is located in a directory with spaces in ? bb-msgs.pl version 1.1 breaks if I try. /Thomas
Have you tried taking out the space ? Convert the folder to dos 8.3 format so for eg Program Files ends up being progra~1 Everything gets truncated to 6 chars + ~1. I know its Perl and not dos but it cant hurt to try :) Allan
list Thomas Pedersen
Yes this is what I ended up doing. I noticed that if I do a dir /X then the 8.3 format is shown, but then I ran into the next problem and this is wildcard filnames ie. syslog*.log as the logs are named with the date in the filename. This require a total rewrite of the bb-msgs.pl script as far as I could see. So I told the managers that this was not possible given the timeframe on a windows box. :-( no happy about it. Thanks for replying. /Thomas
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ZanDAhaR wrote:Thomas wrote:Hi ! Any of you had to monitor logs on a windows box where the file is located in a directory with spaces in ? bb-msgs.pl version 1.1 breaks if I try. /ThomasHave you tried taking out the space ? Convert the folder to dos 8.3 format so for eg Program Files ends up being progra~1 Everything gets truncated to 6 chars + ~1. I know its Perl and not dos but it cant hurt to try :) Allan
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Thomas wrote:
Yes this is what I ended up doing. I noticed that if I do a dir /X then the 8.3 format is shown, but then I ran into the next problem and this is wildcard filnames ie. syslog*.log as the logs are named with the date in the filename. This require a total rewrite of the bb-msgs.pl script as far as I could see. So I told the managers that this was not possible given the timeframe on a windows box. :-( no happy about it. Thanks for replying. /Thomas ZanDAhaR wrote:Thomas wrote:Hi ! Any of you had to monitor logs on a windows box where the file is located in a directory with spaces in ? bb-msgs.pl version 1.1 breaks if I try. /ThomasHave you tried taking out the space ? Convert the folder to dos 8.3 format so for eg Program Files ends up being progra~1 Everything gets truncated to 6 chars + ~1. I know its Perl and not dos but it cant hurt to try :) Allan
I'm sure someone else could help you out with the perl expression but I think maybe it should be %syslog* or something. I'm not a perl junkie so dont take my word as gospel :) HTH Allan
list Gerard Lill
Folks, Attached is two files - one for parsing through a directory looking for Log files and returning key pieces of information; the other for searching the windows Event Log using WMI. The Event Log parser will only work on Windows 2003 server I believe. The support folder of a Windows 2000 server probably contains a command line driven applet for interrogating the event log. Hope this helps. -Gerard
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From: ZanDAhaR [mailto:user-42a3456c44ef@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows logs.
Thomas wrote:
Yes this is what I ended up doing. I noticed that if I do a dir /X then the 8.3 format is shown, but then I ran into the next problem and
this is wildcard filnames ie. syslog*.log as the logs are named with the date in the filename. This require a total rewrite of the bb-msgs.pl script as far as I could see. So I told the managers that this was not possible given the timeframe on a windows box. :-( no happy about it. Thanks for replying. /Thomas ZanDAhaR wrote:Thomas wrote:Hi ! Any of you had to monitor logs on a windows box where the file is located in a directory with spaces in ? bb-msgs.pl version 1.1 breaks if I try. /ThomasHave you tried taking out the space ? Convert the folder to dos 8.3 format so for eg Program Files ends up being progra~1 Everything gets truncated to 6 chars + ~1. I know its Perl and not dos but it cant hurt to try :) Allan
I'm sure someone else could help you out with the perl expression but I think maybe it should be %syslog* or something. I'm not a perl junkie so dont take my word as gospel :) HTH Allan
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list Jeff Stuart
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Gerard Lill wrote:
Folks, Attached is two files - one for parsing through a directory looking for Log files and returning key pieces of information; the other for searching the windows Event Log using WMI. The Event Log parser will only work on Windows 2003 server I believe. The support folder of a Windows 2000 server probably contains a command line driven applet for interrogating the event log. Hope this helps. -Gerard
This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit? -- Jeff Stuart Network Admin MyInternetServices.com 1-800-300-HOST --
list Charles Jones -X Charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco
This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit?
I am using the "bbNT" client. It is a windows client for BigBrother that seems to work well with Hobbit as well.
list Henrik Størner
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:54:43PM -0500, Jeff Stuart wrote:
This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit?
Not yet, but I have reason to believe that one will show up within a couple of months. Regards, Henrik
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:42:58PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:
This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit?I am using the "bbNT" client. It is a windows client for BigBrother that seems to work well with Hobbit as well.
You should be aware that this is a non-free*) product. There is a per-seat license cost, and I am not entirely sure of whether you are allowed to use it with a non-BB server. Regards, Henrik *) Dont misunderstand me - the BB guys who developed the BBNT client did a good job, and they have every right to license it in whatever way they like. I just happen to believe that another kind of license is more appropriate for the software I write.
list Charles Jones -X Charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco
Sounds like we need someone who is good at VC++ to create a nice hobbit windows client. I would volunteer but I am lacking the knowledge, usually when I need to do something on windows I write in in perl (ActivePerl) :)
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From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:59 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows logs.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:42:58PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon -
Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit?I am using the "bbNT" client. It is a windows client for BigBrother that seems to work well with Hobbit as well.
You should be aware that this is a non-free*) product. There is a per-seat license cost, and I am not entirely sure of whether you are allowed to use it with a non-BB server. Regards, Henrik *) Dont misunderstand me - the BB guys who developed the BBNT client did a good job, and they have every right to license it in whatever way they like. I just happen to believe that another kind of license is more appropriate for the software I write.
list Henrik Størner
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:19:04PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:
Sounds like we need someone who is good at VC++ to create a nice hobbit windows client. I would volunteer but I am lacking the knowledge,
I have a volunteer who is looking at doing a Hobbit client for Windows. Regards, Henrik
list Anatoli Bogajewski
Hi, I've written some Java classes for testing application performance on windows clients. So there is an agent similar to "bb" and scheduler similar to "hobbitlaunch" utilities ready for use. The scheduler is configurable also in the same way like hobbit clients and can be used for launching external tests, which are in my case some vbscripts for gathering performance counters. hobbitlaunch is configurable to run as NT service using http://jslwin.sourceforge.net/. To turn all this to fully fledged hobbit client there would be necessary to write some scripts to gather any data from windows boxes you need. Betimes i wanted to do this, but if anyone interested i would provide those classes for further development. Assuming you like Java :) Best wishes, Anatoli Bogajewski user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid schrieb am 24.11.2005 07:39:38:
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:19:04PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:Sounds like we need someone who is good at VC++ to create a nice hobbit windows client. I would volunteer but I am lacking the knowledge,I have a volunteer who is looking at doing a Hobbit client for Windows. Regards, Henrik
list Jason Chambers
The one from Quest Software is a per seat license. The one from the open source project (no longer being created/patched) is still free. http://www.bb4.org Jason Chambers IT Helpdesk Support Geosoft Inc. XX Richmond St. West - 8th Floor Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5H 2C9 Tel: XXX-XXX-XXXX x344 Fax: XXX-XXX-XXXX www.geosoft.com
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From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:59 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows logs.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:42:58PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon -
Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:This brings up a dumb question. Is there a windows client for hobbit?I am using the "bbNT" client. It is a windows client for BigBrother that seems to work well with Hobbit as well.
You should be aware that this is a non-free*) product. There is a per-seat license cost, and I am not entirely sure of whether you are allowed to use it with a non-BB server. Regards, Henrik *) Dont misunderstand me - the BB guys who developed the BBNT client did a good job, and they have every right to license it in whatever way they like. I just happen to believe that another kind of license is more appropriate for the software I write.
list Henrik Størner
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 01:10:37PM -0500, Jason Chambers wrote:
The one from Quest Software is a per seat license. The one from the open source project (no longer being created/patched) is still free. http://www.bb4.org
The bb4.org Windows client is not open source - it is binary only. And it is only free (in the $$$ sense) for non-commercial use. In my case - the hosting/outsourcing business - we have to pay a license per seat. Regards, Henrik
list Vernon Everett
Hi Henrik Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below) :-) After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client in Windows, and it works. I did cheat a little. Sort of. I had Cygwin installed. For those not familiar with Cygwin, it brings the joys of Unix to Windows, including shell scripts, cron, sed, awk, ls, vi and all those other commands we know and love so much. It's published under GNU GPL. :-) You can download or install it from here. http://www.cygwin.com/ To quote their FAQ ---snip--- What is it? The Cygwin tools are ports of the popular GNU development tools for Microsoft Windows. They run thanks to the Cygwin library which provides the UNIX system calls and environment these programs expect. With these tools installed, it is possible to write Win32 console or GUI applications that make use of the standard Microsoft Win32 API and/or the Cygwin API. As a result, it is possible to easily port many significant Unix programs without the need for extensive changes to the source code. This includes configuring and building most of the available GNU software (including the packages included with the Cygwin development tools themselves). Even if the development tools are of little to no use to you, you may have interest in the many standard Unix utilities provided with the package. They can be used both from the bash shell (provided) or from the standard Windows command shell. ---snip--- To install Hobbit client, I simply extracted the .tar, ran configure.client, make, make install. There are a few caveats. 1. It needs a valid user. (Once Cygwin's installed check /etc/passwd for a list) 2. It doesn't like spaces in the install path folder names 3. Most of the development components of Cygwin need to be installed first. (These are not installed by default) It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms. I hit a few problems. First, it doesn't know what OS it's running. I hacked the runclient.sh and set os to sunos to try and bring some sanity to the world, but it still had no clue. After looking at how runclient works, I realised I could rewrite hobbitclient-sunos.sh for Cygwin. I had to add a line to runclient.sh, just after the BBOSTYPE= I added echo $BBOSTYPE | grep cygwin && BBOSTYPE=cygwin This cuts all the other garbage from the uname -s output which might be different, depending on what version of Windoze you use. I then created a hobbitclient-cygwin.sh with a few commands changed to provide output as close to that provided by the equivalent sunos commands. (attached) Also, because of limitations in the Cygwin shell, I also had to abstract the vmstat test to an external script, which I put in $BBCLIENTHOME/bin/ for convenience. (Also attached) Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it? Regards Vernon No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 2:40 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows logs.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:19:04PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon -
Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:Sounds like we need someone who is good at VC++ to create a nice hobbit windows client. I would volunteer but I am lacking the knowledge,
I have a volunteer who is looking at doing a Hobbit client for Windows. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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list Vernon Everett
I just had a look at this mail, and the scripts came out looking very ugly. Here they are again in text format. --- hobbitclient-cygwin.sh --- #!/bin/sh #----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----# # Cygwin client for Hobbit # # # # Copyright (C) 2005 Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> # # # # This program is released under the GNU General Public License (GPL), # # version 2. See the file "COPYING" for details. # # # #----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----# # # $Id: hobbitclient-sunos.sh,v 1.5 2005/08/01 05:58:29 henrik Exp $ echo "[date]" date echo "[uname]" uname -a echo "[uptime]" uptime echo "[who]" w echo "[df]" df -k echo "[prtconf]" echo "[memory]" vmstat 1 2 | tail -1 echo "[swap]" echo "[netstat]" netstat -s echo "[ps]" ps -ef echo "[top]" top -b -n1 # vmstat nohup $HOBBITCLIENTHOME/bin/getvmstat.sh & sleep 5 if test -f $BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat; then echo "[vmstat]"; cat $BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat; rm -f $BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat; fi exit --- end --- --- getvmstat.sh --- # vmstat 300 2 1>$BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat.$$ 2>&1 mv $BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat.$$ $BBTMP/hobbit_vmstat </dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1 --- end ---
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From: Vernon Everett [mailto:user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:02 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Windows logs.
Hi Henrik
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
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After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client in Windows, and it works. I did cheat a little. Sort of. I had Cygwin installed. For those not familiar with Cygwin, it brings the joys of Unix to Windows, including shell scripts, cron, sed, awk, ls, vi and all those other commands we know and love so much. It's published under GNU GPL. :-) You can download or install it from here. http://www.cygwin.com/ To quote their FAQ ---snip--- What is it? The Cygwin tools are ports of the popular GNU development tools for Microsoft Windows. They run thanks to the Cygwin library which provides the UNIX system calls and environment these programs expect. With these tools installed, it is possible to write Win32 console or GUI applications that make use of the standard Microsoft Win32 API and/or the Cygwin API. As a result, it is possible to easily port many significant Unix programs without the need for extensive changes to the source code. This includes configuring and building most of the available GNU software (including the packages included with the Cygwin development tools themselves). Even if the development tools are of little to no use to you, you may have interest in the many standard Unix utilities provided with the package. They can be used both from the bash shell (provided) or from the standard Windows command shell. ---snip--- To install Hobbit client, I simply extracted the .tar, ran configure.client, make, make install. There are a few caveats. 1. It needs a valid user. (Once Cygwin's installed check /etc/passwd for a list) 2. It doesn't like spaces in the install path folder names 3. Most of the development components of Cygwin need to be installed first. (These are not installed by default) It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms. I hit a few problems. First, it doesn't know what OS it's running. I hacked the runclient.sh and set os to sunos to try and bring some sanity to the world, but it still had no clue. After looking at how runclient works, I realised I could rewrite hobbitclient-sunos.sh for Cygwin. I had to add a line to runclient.sh, just after the BBOSTYPE= I added echo $BBOSTYPE | grep cygwin && BBOSTYPE=cygwin This cuts all the other garbage from the uname -s output which might be different, depending on what version of Windoze you use. I then created a hobbitclient-cygwin.sh with a few commands changed to provide output as close to that provided by the equivalent sunos commands. (attached) Also, because of limitations in the Cygwin shell, I also had to abstract the vmstat test to an external script, which I put in $BBCLIENTHOME/bin/ for convenience. (Also attached) Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it? Regards Vernon No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 2:40 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows logs. On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:19:04PM -0800, Charles Jones -X (charljon - Cisco Learning Institute at Cisco) wrote:
Sounds like we need someone who is good at VC++ to create a nice hobbit windows client. I would volunteer but I am lacking the knowledge,
I have a volunteer who is looking at doing a Hobbit client for Windows. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Henrik Størner
(Note: I changed the subject) Hi Vernon, On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below) :-)
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After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client in
Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]
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It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.
It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.
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Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?
It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik
list Vernon Everett
Hi Henrik Adding the -W to the ps command includes Windoze as well as Cygwin processes. I should have used that in my script. Also, we can monitor swap with the free command. I should have put that in too. Monitoring services from command line is possible, but only with the resource kit. There is a command called sclist which does it. As for the client modules - Hmmmm, that's C code. I will leave it to those that know better. :-) The sum total of my C knowledge doesn't extend very far beyond "Hello world". Cheers
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From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:21 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
(Note: I changed the subject)
Hi Vernon,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
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After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client
in Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]
It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.
It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.
Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?
It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Vernon Everett
Hi Henrik Not sure how I forgot this one, but sc will tell you all about services. Cheers V
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From: Vernon Everett [mailto:user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 4:14 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi Henrik
Adding the -W to the ps command includes Windoze as well as Cygwin
processes. I should have used that in my script.
Also, we can monitor swap with the free command. I should have put that
in too.
Monitoring services from command line is possible, but only with the
resource kit.
There is a command called sclist which does it.
As for the client modules - Hmmmm, that's C code. I will leave it to
those that know better. :-) The sum total of my C knowledge doesn't
extend very far beyond "Hello world".
Cheers
Vernon
No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many
electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:21 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
(Note: I changed the subject)
Hi Vernon,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
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After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client
in Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]
It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.
It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.
Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?
It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Lars Ebeling
Hi, but this means that you have to have Cygwin installed. (?) I have taht but not the resource kit. Regards Lars
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From: "Vernon Everett" <user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi Henrik
Not sure how I forgot this one, but sc will tell you all about services.
Cheers
V
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electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From: Vernon Everett [mailto:user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 4:14 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi Henrik
Adding the -W to the ps command includes Windoze as well as Cygwin
processes. I should have used that in my script.
Also, we can monitor swap with the free command. I should have put that
in too.
Monitoring services from command line is possible, but only with the
resource kit.
There is a command called sclist which does it.
As for the client modules - Hmmmm, that's C code. I will leave it to
those that know better. :-) The sum total of my C knowledge doesn't
extend very far beyond "Hello world".
Cheers
Vernon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:21 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
(Note: I changed the subject)
Hi Vernon,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
▸
After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client
in Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]
It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.
It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.
Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?
It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Vernon Everett
Indeed. I prefer the Unix command line, so I normally install it anyway. But most will have to install it. The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of Windoze. With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly. I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of commands can differ between versions too. Cygwin is consistent, but not complete. I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.
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Cheers
Vernon
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From: lars ebeling [mailto:user-1fecd3eafd52@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 4:36 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi,
but this means that you have to have Cygwin installed. (?) I have taht
but not the resource kit.
Regards
Lars
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vernon Everett" <user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi Henrik
Not sure how I forgot this one, but sc will tell you all about services.
Cheers
V
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vernon Everett [mailto:user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 4:14 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi Henrik
Adding the -W to the ps command includes Windoze as well as Cygwin
processes. I should have used that in my script.
Also, we can monitor swap with the free command. I should have put that
in too.
Monitoring services from command line is possible, but only with the
resource kit.
There is a command called sclist which does it.
As for the client modules - Hmmmm, that's C code. I will leave it to
those that know better. :-) The sum total of my C knowledge doesn't
extend very far beyond "Hello world".
Cheers
Vernon
No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many
electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:21 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
(Note: I changed the subject)
Hi Vernon,
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
▸
After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client
in Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]
It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.
It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.
Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?
It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Lars Ebeling
Where do I find the resource kit? I unpacked the latest snapshot and started with configure. There where no sudo and fping. What other utilities are needed?
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Regards
Lars
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vernon Everett" <user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Indeed.
I prefer the Unix command line, so I normally install it anyway. But
most will have to install it.
The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of
Windoze.
With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a
service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of
Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly.
I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of
commands can differ between versions too.
Cygwin is consistent, but not complete.
I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.
Cheers
Vernon
list Henrik Størner
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:44:30PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of Windoze. With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly. I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of commands can differ between versions too. Cygwin is consistent, but not complete.
Indeed - despite all the talk about Unix being "fragmented", the Unix API and command-interface is immensely more consistent than the Windows ditto.
I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.
It took me about a week to write all of the Unix clients - Linux,
*BSD, AIX, HP-UX, plus the server-side back-end - after which I had
a rough implementation that mostly worked, but needed some testing.
It's been about 7 years since I last had the misfortune to do any
programming on Windows, so writing a Win32 client would probably
take significantly longer than that. The Windows "performance counter"
API is just ... abominable.
(If you want to see some live examples of the different ways of
thinking in the OpenSource world vs. the Windows world, have a
look at this comparison between the Open Document (.odt) XML format
and Microsoft's .docx XML format.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051125144611543
If you thought using XML would help with interoperability,
you're in for a surprise).
My biggest concern for a Windows client is how to support it.
Regards,
Henrik
list Henrik Størner
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:09:46AM +0100, lars ebeling wrote:
Where do I find the resource kit? I unpacked the latest snapshot and started with configure. There where no sudo and fping. What other utilities are needed?
I think Vernon did a client-configuration only. Try running Hobbit's configure script with the --client option. Henrik
list Manu
Hi, I'm absolutely new to this list but I just want to throw my thoughts in. On the bigbrother extensions-site I saw a perl script implementing the bigbrother protocol. Taking this script as a starting point, using some perl-modules from the Win32::-family, making use of the WMI ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/wmi_reference.asp ) and a bit of hacking would end up with a hobbit-windows client. In our IT department (where we use many windows servers, unfortunately), it is not applicable to have cygwin on the servers. So the best way would rather be writing a hobbit client either in perl or C#. .... Sorry for mentioning C# and discrediting cygwin, but I wanted to state that (IMHO) cygwin is not the (business concerning) answer... regards, Manuel ----- Message from user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid ---------
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:25:48 +0100
From: Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid>
Reply-To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:44:30PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of Windoze. With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly. I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of commands can differ between versions too. Cygwin is consistent, but not complete.Indeed - despite all the talk about Unix being "fragmented", the Unix API and command-interface is immensely more consistent than the Windows ditto.I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.It took me about a week to write all of the Unix clients - Linux, *BSD, AIX, HP-UX, plus the server-side back-end - after which I had a rough implementation that mostly worked, but needed some testing. It's been about 7 years since I last had the misfortune to do any programming on Windows, so writing a Win32 client would probably take significantly longer than that. The Windows "performance counter" API is just ... abominable. (If you want to see some live examples of the different ways of thinking in the OpenSource world vs. the Windows world, have a look at this comparison between the Open Document (.odt) XML format and Microsoft's .docx XML format. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051125144611543 If you thought using XML would help with interoperability, you're in for a surprise). My biggest concern for a Windows client is how to support it. Regards, Henrik
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list Peter Douglass
Hi, I also just signed up for this list. A co-worker suggested to me that there is work being done on a windows client, but I was unable to find a reference to such work in the list archive. We need a windows client at my work. Because we need to customize it, we need the source code, so BB won't do. I am willing to work on such a client, but I want to know what has been done in this area, who else is working on such a project etc. before I invest too much time. Anyone have details on Windows client projects? --PeterD
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Manu wrote:Hi, I'm absolutely new to this list but I just want to throw my thoughts in. On the bigbrother extensions-site I saw a perl script implementing the bigbrother protocol. Taking this script as a starting point, using some perl-modules from the Win32::-family, making use of the WMI ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/wmi_reference.asp ) and a bit of hacking would end up with a hobbit-windows client. In our IT department (where we use many windows servers, unfortunately), it is not applicable to have cygwin on the servers. So the best way would rather be writing a hobbit client either in perl or C#. .... Sorry for mentioning C# and discrediting cygwin, but I wanted to state that (IMHO) cygwin is not the (business concerning) answer... regards, Manuel ----- Message from user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid --------- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:25:48 +0100 From: Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> Reply-To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalidOn Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:44:30PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of Windoze. With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly. I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of commands can differ between versions too. Cygwin is consistent, but not complete.Indeed - despite all the talk about Unix being "fragmented", the Unix API and command-interface is immensely more consistent than the Windows ditto.I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.It took me about a week to write all of the Unix clients - Linux, *BSD, AIX, HP-UX, plus the server-side back-end - after which I had a rough implementation that mostly worked, but needed some testing. It's been about 7 years since I last had the misfortune to do any programming on Windows, so writing a Win32 client would probably take significantly longer than that. The Windows "performance counter" API is just ... abominable. (If you want to see some live examples of the different ways of thinking in the OpenSource world vs. the Windows world, have a look at this comparison between the Open Document (.odt) XML format and Microsoft's .docx XML format. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051125144611543 If you thought using XML would help with interoperability, you're in for a surprise). My biggest concern for a Windows client is how to support it. Regards, Henrik----- End message from user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid -----
list Jeff Newman
Please excuse my ignorance as Im new to hobbit/BB, but whats wrong with the Big Brother client? I run a hobbit server, downloaded the windows client off of the big brother site, installed it, and it reports stuff to hobbit just fine. -Jeff
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On 11/28/05, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:(Note: I changed the subject) Hi Vernon, On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:01:41PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:Hobbit client runs on Windoze. (Disclaimer applies - see below)
:-)
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After a little bit of playing around, I managed to compile the client in Windows, and it works.[snip story of porting the client to Windows with Cygwin]It's far from perfect but I think it's a good starting point, and there will hopefully be no need for multiple code versions for different platforms.It's a neat hack, and it does give you the basic functionality. But: There are some severe limitations to this approach. Cygwin's "ps" output for instance only includes the processes that have been started from a Cygwin prompt - not the system processes you'd probably want to check. And monitoring Windows services is not possible, I believe.Right now it's doing its thing, and sending data back to the server (I think) but the server is not displaying any results other than conn. How can I check what's being received by the server, and what's being done with it?It probably isn't doing anything with the data. The client data is handled by the hobbitd_client module, which needs to learn how to interpret data from this unknown OS called "windows". If you look at the hobbitd/client/ directory in the Hobbit sources, you'll see there are a bunch of files - one per OS - with code to handle the particular report sent by each OS. Something must be added to deal with the report from your Windows client. Regards, Henrik
list Rob MacGregor
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On 28/11/05, Jeff Newman <user-e96740e73ca8@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance as Im new to hobbit/BB, but whats wrong with the Big Brother client? I run a hobbit server, downloaded the windows client off of the big brother site, installed it, and it reports stuff to hobbit just fine.
Licensing - you may just want to read the license agreement :-)
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list Vernon Everett
Hi Lars, Henrik You are correct. This was a client installation only. I wouldn't try install the server on Windows. It might work, but I see no benefit.
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Cheers
Vernon
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From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 5:27 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:09:46AM +0100, lars ebeling wrote:Where do I find the resource kit? I unpacked the latest snapshot and started with configure. There where no sudo and fping. What other utilities are needed?
I think Vernon did a client-configuration only. Try running Hobbit's configure script with the --client option. Henrik _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.
list Gerard Lill
WMI. I know nothing about programming; but - WMI. Every server we monitor and manage is running Windows 2000 server or later; which means we found our common ground. Peter - If you wanted to know who has been working on a hobbit client - we have. Attached is an implementation that runs as a windows service, checking performance counters and passing results to the server. The service is designed to query an SQL server (yes - MS SQL :)), passing it's full hostname as an argument, which returns a full list of WMI counters to monitor, the address of the hobbit server to report to, the frequency, whether to create a log file, and if so where. (Basically, the client is completely without any configuration, designed to up-date it's config with every boot) I agree we need someone to co-ordinate this effort to ultimately produce the windows / windoze client that Hobbit is lacking. One of the few short-comings of Hobbit IMHO. You can download the source at http://www.ets.biz/hobbitmonitor.zip - it's under any licensing model you care to chose :). Gerard Lill T: +44 (0)20 8797 7799 F: +44 (0)20 8797 4725 www.ets.biz Eclipse Technology Services
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From: Rob MacGregor [mailto:user-07c9d92ae079@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 22:34
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
On 28/11/05, Jeff Newman <user-e96740e73ca8@xymon.invalid> wrote:Please excuse my ignorance as Im new to hobbit/BB, but whats wrong with the Big Brother client? I run a hobbit server, downloaded the windows client off of the big brother site, installed it, and it reports stuff to hobbit just fine.
Licensing - you may just want to read the license agreement :-)
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list Vernon Everett
Hi all As I understand it, (and somebody please correct me where I go wrong) to get a Hobbit client for working for Wondoze will require 3 components. 1. We need a Windoze client to collect the standard data 2. We need a server module to be able to interpret the data 3. We need a method of extending the client with script or external applications. Cygwin can only take us part the way there. It will allow us to compile the current client, but can't collect all the data. It will allow us to extend the functionality, but we are still limited to command line. Once we get 1 and 3 above working, item 2 should be pretty simple to do. We need a few Windoze programming boffins on this one. Does anybody on this list know of or work with any?
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Vernon
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I have been trying to create a hobbit client on the side for a while. However, I am not a coding Guru. I have had some small experiences, with VB 6, but am not sure if that is the correct language to use. I recently came across a few code snippets for VB6 that may help us move towards a client. I would be more than happy to collaborate with a few people to atleast get the ball rolling. Any takers? Stew
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vernon Everett [mailto:user-99fc6b22a3a3@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:16 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
Hi all
As I understand it, (and somebody please correct me where I go wrong) to get
a Hobbit client for working for Wondoze will require 3 components.
1. We need a Windoze client to collect the standard data 2. We need a server
module to be able to interpret the data 3. We need a method of extending the
client with script or external applications.
Cygwin can only take us part the way there. It will allow us to compile the
current client, but can't collect all the data.
It will allow us to extend the functionality, but we are still limited to
command line.
Once we get 1 and 3 above working, item 2 should be pretty simple to do.
We need a few Windoze programming boffins on this one.
Does anybody on this list know of or work with any?
Regards
Vernon
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