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list Japheth Cleaver · Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:57:57 -0700 ·
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page
that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden
over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media
services:

https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor

New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account
reference purposes at the moment:

https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor
https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor
https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor


In addition, there are a few resource groups out there, including:

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/2776122/ - XymonAdmins (unlisted)
https://www.xymon.jp/ - Japanese Xymon User Group
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/126643144159684/
- Using hashtag #xymonjp on Twitter


One thing I've noticed is that Xymon looks to be a rather common name in
some countries, which does make direct searching a little difficult.
"Xymon Monitor" seems to be something a bit more trackable (with the full
name "Xymon Systems and Network Monitor" as entitled on our SF page), but
we might have to see in the future what references become useful more
organically.

Nevertheless, hopefully this is a start. Feel free to
like/comment/tag/subscribe/share/etc these in the future.


Regards,
-jc
list Bruno Manzoni · Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:14:55 +0200 ·
Hi JC,

- Thanks to have accepted to share the ownership of the POC repo: 
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring - Do not hesitate to use and abuse 
your "owner" rights
- Thanks for the friendly comments
- I have integrated the best I can the info of your email and also of 
your previous email one on the?"POC Problem-solving" repo: 
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/problem-solving
- I reserve xymonmonitor at Github, you are also invited as a owner 
(following social media name and also because xymon alone is already 
take by someone?!?)
- I still have to go through previous emails to complete this summary of 
problems as much as I can.

Bruno
quoted from Japheth Cleaver

On 04.10.2023 05:57, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page
that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden
over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media
services:

https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor

New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account
reference purposes at the moment:

https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor
https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor
https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor


In addition, there are a few resource groups out there, including:

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/2776122/  - XymonAdmins (unlisted)
https://www.xymon.jp/  - Japanese Xymon User Group
-https://www.facebook.com/groups/126643144159684/
- Using hashtag #xymonjp on Twitter


One thing I've noticed is that Xymon looks to be a rather common name in
some countries, which does make direct searching a little difficult.
"Xymon Monitor" seems to be something a bit more trackable (with the full
name "Xymon Systems and Network Monitor" as entitled on our SF page), but
we might have to see in the future what references become useful more
organically.

Nevertheless, hopefully this is a start. Feel free to
like/comment/tag/subscribe/share/etc these in the future.


Regards,
-jc

list Axel Beckert · Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:16:44 +0200 ·
Hi,
quoted from Bruno Manzoni

On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page
that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden
over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media
services:

https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor

New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account
reference purposes at the moment:

https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor
https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor
https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms,
especially Twitter and Reddit?

In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish,
etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying
Twitter platform.

Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one
for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like
mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good
reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic,
floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.

(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems
to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not
yet open: https://monitoring.cafe/about ? I've asked how their plans
are: https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)

Not sure about Reddit, but it has gotten quite a bad reputation after
some disputes between the company behind it and the community. (Albeit
it IMHO didn't get as bad as Twitter's reputation got after the
Muskocalypse.)

Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's
worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg?) So it really might be just my
bubble.

		Kind regards, Axel
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list Bruno Manzoni · Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:36:34 +0200 ·
Hi Axel,
I send you a Github invite to be a member of the POC, as myself and JC (and everyone is invited)
JC and I are currently owner with full access, you will be a member for now, but if you thing you need more let me know!
*Could you please put your info into: https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/problem-solving/issues/9 (Social Media improvement)*
- *The way you like! but try to be as short as possible (less is more)*. The document (an issue) try to collect ideas/problems and solutions on a subject: so more ideas and solutions are better, "why some are good and other no so?" is a matter of discussion but to compare solution, the current admins need:
- To fix a goal
- To define prerequisites if any.
- Then to compare solutions
- And finally to decide/choose the best solution
As so far, it seems to me that there is not any goal fixed, an evaluation cannot be wrong : it depends... so your evaluation is valuable like any other: so do not hesitate to put it! And of course, this can be adjusted if wrong or not applicable when the context is clearer: so just do not hesitate to write what you want!
For your info you will find in this document(issue) the elements of JC that I just dropped into it. I just strip as much as I can without striping the main info , I try not to bother JC: he has already much think to do: so I try to do things for him, and I can do that also for others in some case, but the idea is to have something collaborative, better than a mailing list, especially for follow subject.
- I choose Github issue
 ? - As it can be edited directly by any member
 ? - So anyone can correct anything that is wrong: like my English (I do a lot of mistake in English, as it is not my language, so sorry for that) , or any more technical stuff or Xymon things,...
 ? - If you want to correct something but you are not sure: strike-through? the text (like "~~text~~") that you want to replace and add the one you want.
 ? - Github issues have an history: (click on edited) so it should not be a problem to revert a mistake (but I did not play much with this feature): and it is a POC. so no problem in any case!
Let me know if there is a problem! I will certainly need to fix something (in the form, the content, the way to collaborate ...)
Everyone do what he can: no problem if you don't do anything for this POC: and I know this is not the most exciting part of a project...
So thanks you in any case
Regards
Bruno
quoted from Axel Beckert


On 04.10.2023 13:16, Axel Beckert wrote:
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page
that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden
over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media
services:

https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor

New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account
reference purposes at the moment:

https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor
https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor
https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms,
especially Twitter and Reddit?

In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish,
etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying
Twitter platform.

Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one
for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like
mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good
reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic,
floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.

(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems
to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not

yet open:https://monitoring.cafe/about  ? I've asked how their plans
are:https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)
quoted from Axel Beckert

Not sure about Reddit, but it has gotten quite a bad reputation after
some disputes between the company behind it and the community. (Albeit
it IMHO didn't get as bad as Twitter's reputation got after the
Muskocalypse.)

Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's
worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg?) So it really might be just my
bubble.

		Kind regards, Axel
list Japheth Cleaver · Wed, 4 Oct 2023 18:54:07 -0700 ·
quoted from Axel Beckert
On Wed, October 4, 2023 04:16, Axel Beckert wrote:
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page
that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden
over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media
services:

https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor

New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account
reference purposes at the moment:

https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor
https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor
https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms,
especially Twitter and Reddit?
I agree that both of those have had their... controversies, however there
does seem to still be a lot of tech activity going on there. Twitter is
still a mechanism for going viral (accidentally or not) so I figured it
would be good to have a presence there at least for tracking and comms. It
also could be useful for very quick, one-off questions and support
response.

As far as Reddit goes (forgot to mention that Xymon has had a subreddit
for a while: https://reddit.com/r/xymon/ ) there's definitely activity in
various subreddits adjacent to the monitoring space (if not r/monitoring
itself). "sysadmin", "devops", "linux"
 pick a keyword. Xymon does get
mentioned from time to time in discussion, so I think anything that helps
increase visibility is probably a good thing for the project.
quoted from Bruno Manzoni

In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish,
etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying
Twitter platform.

Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one
for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like
mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good
reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic,
floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.

(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems
to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not
yet open: https://monitoring.cafe/about ??? I've asked how their plans
are: https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)
This is a good idea. I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to Mastodon, but I
know there's a lot of distributed discussion going on. If the community
agrees there's one that makes sense to set up for, I agree that would be
very helpful.

I know back in the day #user-582daaaaeeb7@xymon.invalid was a place people idled
in, although I just checked and it's empty now. Not sure if others have
moved over to LiberaChat or not.


Other options for communication would include a public Slack (easy enough
to set up, and familiar for a lot of enterprise folks who have to live on
it whether we like it or not), or Discord (for a different crowd); That
said, there's a limit to the number of rooms a human can pay attention to
(and apps my cell battery can keep running).

These don't have to all be public/user level, either. If I set up a
Development Slack, for example, would others be interested?
quoted from Bruno Manzoni

Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's
worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg???) So it really might be just my
bubble.
Facebook probably won't get a huge amount of visibility, but I figured it
would be good to at least reactivate that presence for longevity's sake.
IG and WhatsApp (which I forgot to post) was really only set up because
Facebook/Meta kept nagging me to do so as soon as I reactivated the Page.
I personally can't see much reason for IG tagging, but if people would
like to send shots of their dashboards and/or NOC rooms with Xymon up,
that could be fun.

One thing I've noticed on IG is that their interests ad seem to
microtarget pretty well once you're in the ecosystem, and I do keep
getting spammed with monitoring software ads (Datadog, IIRC) and sysadmin
resources, so it seems there's a market of *some* type to be reached
there.

(I'm drawing the line at TikTok though, thanks.)


For completeness' sake, I also set up a YouTube page
(https://www.youtube.com/@XymonMonitor ) I won't have time any time soon
to deal with video content, but there are actually a couple of small Xymon
videos on YT out there already. And with the plethora of Xymon/Hobbit
presentations people have made, I think there might be an opportunity for
explainer-style videos, or simply presentation recordings, in the future.

Again, placeholders for now.


Regards,
-jc