Moving from BB to Hobbit
list Shane Presley
Hello all, I've been running bb1.9e for some time. I am considering an upgrade to Hobbit. I'll be building a test box shortly for the server. Regarding the clients, can the hobbit server take client data from bb1.9e clients? Or do I need to use the Hobbit client? And how about Windows clients? Thanks Shane
list Francesco Duranti
You can use bb clients (unix and windows work). The big difference is that with bb you'll need to have distributed configuration on all client, using the hobbit client you can centralize the configuration on the server for the Unix machine. The hobbit unix client have also some more tests it do on clients and is a bit more user friendly on configuration. You can probably start with the bb client and migrate them to hobbit in some times (the client installation is a compile 1 time for architecture and copy the directory to the same architecture servers operation so it will not require too much time). And one time you've installed 4.2 clients you can them update/upgrade them in the future automatically. We're currently using the bb windows client on more then 50 servers, we're thinking to change to the bbwin client that have some more functionality but having a xml configuration file (instead of having a centralized configuration like the unix client) and without a GUI it's a bit more complicate than the unix ones. Some of the next versions of the bbwin client should also have the gui and the centralized configuration so it could be a good thing to start testing with it also. Francesco
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-----Original Message----- From: Shane Presley [mailto:user-f946ba3135e0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:29 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Moving from BB to Hobbit Hello all, I've been running bb1.9e for some time. I am considering an upgrade to Hobbit. I'll be building a test box shortly for the server. Regarding the clients, can the hobbit server take client data from bb1.9e clients? Or do I need to use the Hobbit client? And how about Windows clients? Thanks Shane
list Shane Presley
That sounds like a great approach. I'll start with the server, and look to upgrade the clients after. Thanks for the info... Shane
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On 10/2/06, Francesco Duranti <user-7104dcecbfef@xymon.invalid> wrote:You can use bb clients (unix and windows work). The big difference is that with bb you'll need to have distributed configuration on all client, using the hobbit client you can centralize the configuration on the server for the Unix machine. The hobbit unix client have also some more tests it do on clients and is a bit more user friendly on configuration. You can probably start with the bb client and migrate them to hobbit in some times (the client installation is a compile 1 time for architecture and copy the directory to the same architecture servers operation so it will not require too much time). And one time you've installed 4.2 clients you can them update/upgrade them in the future automatically. We're currently using the bb windows client on more then 50 servers, we're thinking to change to the bbwin client that have some more functionality but having a xml configuration file (instead of having a centralized configuration like the unix client) and without a GUI it's a bit more complicate than the unix ones. Some of the next versions of the bbwin client should also have the gui and the centralized configuration so it could be a good thing to start testing with it also. Francesco
list Jeffrey Parker
Hi Hobbits,
I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
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list Rich Smrcina
That's usually what I do. As long as your sure all of your parts are in place everything should just work... we'll keep our fingers crossed for you... :)
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Jeffrey Parker wrote:Hi Hobbits,
I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
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list Henrik Størner
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On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test. Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production, I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything once I switch them?
Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there. Regards, Henrik
list Jeffrey Parker
Henrik,
So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK? I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin. Not sure the significance of that. Probably
over-thinking it.
Thanks
Jeff
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On 7/9/07, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test. Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production, I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything once I switch them?Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there. Regards, Henrik
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list Johann Eggers
I did this already in the past. I've changed the IP in the Makefile and then recompiled the software... Johann
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Parker [mailto:user-5dc6bc066d72@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Montag, 9. Juli 2007 14:48
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Moving from BB to Hobbit
Henrik,
So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK? I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin. Not sure the significance of that. Probably
over-thinking it.
Thanks
Jefflist Steve Holmes
No, you are right. Recompiling is the best thing to do. I got bit by this at the same stage doing the same thing you are doing. Steve.
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On 7/9/07, Jeffrey Parker <user-5dc6bc066d72@xymon.invalid> wrote:Henrik, So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK? I guess the reason why I asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in HOBBITHOME/server/bin. Not sure the significance of that. Probably over-thinking it. Thanks Jeff On 7/9/07, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test. Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production, I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything once I switch them?Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there. Regards, Henrik-- Jeff Parker user-5dc6bc066d72@xymon.invalid
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list Henrik Størner
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On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:47:50AM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK? I guess the reason why I asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in HOBBITHOME/server/bin.
The compiled-in setting provides a default, if the setting is not found in hobbitserver.cfg. So changing it there should suffice. E.g. the pre-compiled binary packages of Hobbit have a built-in setting of 127.0.0.1/localhost - and they work fine when you configure them with a real IP/hostname. Regards, Henrik
list Bruce Ferrell
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Jeffrey Parker wrote:
Hi Hobbits,
I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly. I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running. I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place. This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients. All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP. Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Thanks in advance,
JeffWhere is the BB/Hobbit migration guide to be found? I just went through the shire and the main hobbit page and didn't see it. Thanks