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list Shane Presley · Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:29:12 -0400 ·
Hello all,

I've been running bb1.9e for some time.  I am considering an upgrade
to Hobbit.  I'll be building a test box shortly for the server.

Regarding the clients, can the hobbit server take client data from
bb1.9e clients?  Or do I need to use the Hobbit client?  And how about
Windows clients?

Thanks
Shane
list Francesco Duranti · Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0200 ·
You can use bb clients (unix and windows work).
The big difference is that with bb you'll need to have distributed
configuration on all client, using the hobbit client you can centralize
the configuration on the server for the Unix machine. The hobbit unix
client have also some more tests it do on clients and is a bit more user
friendly on configuration.
You can probably start with the bb client and migrate them to hobbit in
some times (the client installation is a compile 1 time for architecture
and copy the directory to the same architecture servers operation so it
will not require too much time). And one time you've installed 4.2
clients you can them update/upgrade them in the future automatically.

We're currently using the bb windows client on more then 50 servers,
we're thinking to change to the bbwin client that have some more
functionality but having a xml configuration file (instead of having a
centralized configuration like the unix client) and without a GUI it's a
bit more complicate than the unix ones. Some of the next versions of the
bbwin client should also have the gui and the centralized configuration
so it could be a good thing to start testing with it also.

Francesco
quoted from Shane Presley

-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Presley [mailto:user-f946ba3135e0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:29 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Moving from BB to Hobbit

Hello all,

I've been running bb1.9e for some time.  I am considering an upgrade to Hobbit.  I'll be building a test box shortly for the server.

Regarding the clients, can the hobbit server take client data from bb1.9e clients?  Or do I need to use the Hobbit client?  And how about Windows clients?

Thanks
Shane

list Shane Presley · Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:46:03 -0400 ·
That sounds like a great approach.  I'll start with the server, and
look to upgrade the clients after.  Thanks for the info...

Shane
quoted from Francesco Duranti

On 10/2/06, Francesco Duranti <user-7104dcecbfef@xymon.invalid> wrote:
You can use bb clients (unix and windows work).
The big difference is that with bb you'll need to have distributed
configuration on all client, using the hobbit client you can centralize
the configuration on the server for the Unix machine. The hobbit unix
client have also some more tests it do on clients and is a bit more user
friendly on configuration.
You can probably start with the bb client and migrate them to hobbit in
some times (the client installation is a compile 1 time for architecture
and copy the directory to the same architecture servers operation so it
will not require too much time). And one time you've installed 4.2
clients you can them update/upgrade them in the future automatically.

We're currently using the bb windows client on more then 50 servers,
we're thinking to change to the bbwin client that have some more
functionality but having a xml configuration file (instead of having a
centralized configuration like the unix client) and without a GUI it's a
bit more complicate than the unix ones. Some of the next versions of the
bbwin client should also have the gui and the centralized configuration
so it could be a good thing to start testing with it also.

Francesco
list Jeffrey Parker · Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:46:14 -0500 ·
Hi Hobbits,

      I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff


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list Rich Smrcina · Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:49:15 -0500 ·
That's usually what I do.  As long as your sure all of your parts are in 
place everything should just work... we'll keep our fingers crossed for 
you... :)
quoted from Jeffrey Parker

Jeffrey Parker wrote:
Hi Hobbits,

     I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff

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list Henrik Størner · Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:18:32 +0200 ·
quoted from Jeffrey Parker
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
     I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference
to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there.


Regards,
Henrik
list Jeffrey Parker · Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:47:50 -0500 ·
Henrik,

      So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK?  I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin.  Not sure the significance of that.  Probably
over-thinking it.

Thanks

Jeff
quoted from Henrik Størner


On 7/9/07, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
     I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference
to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there.


Regards,
Henrik

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list Johann Eggers · Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:09:02 +0200 ·
I did this already in the past. I've changed the IP in the Makefile and
then recompiled the software...

Johann
quoted from Jeffrey Parker
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Parker [mailto:user-5dc6bc066d72@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Montag, 9. Juli 2007 14:48
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Moving from BB to Hobbit

Henrik,

      So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK?  I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin.  Not sure the significance of that.  Probably
over-thinking it.

Thanks

Jeff
list Steve Holmes · Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:46:26 -0400 ·
No, you are right. Recompiling is the best thing to do. I got bit by this at
the same stage doing the same thing you are doing.
Steve.
quoted from Jeffrey Parker


On 7/9/07, Jeffrey Parker <user-5dc6bc066d72@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Henrik,

      So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK?  I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin.  Not sure the significance of that.  Probably
over-thinking it.

Thanks

Jeff


On 7/9/07, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
     I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?
Check the beginning of your hobbitserver.cfg file, there is a reference
to the hostname and IP that you entered during configuration there.


Regards,
Henrik

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list Henrik Størner · Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:51:14 +0200 ·
quoted from Jeffrey Parker
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:47:50AM -0500, Jeffrey Parker wrote:
     So I just need to change the IP and hostname in the
hobbitserver.cfg file and I should be OK?  I guess the reason why I
asked the question is because I just happened to notice that the
current IP and hostname were compiled into nearly every binary in
HOBBITHOME/server/bin.
The compiled-in setting provides a default, if the setting is not found
in hobbitserver.cfg. So changing it there should suffice.

E.g. the pre-compiled binary packages of Hobbit have a built-in setting
of 127.0.0.1/localhost - and they work fine when you configure them with
a real IP/hostname.


Regards,
Henrik
list Bruce Ferrell · Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:55:41 -0700 ·
quoted from Jeffrey Parker

Jeffrey Parker wrote:
Hi Hobbits,

     I have read the BB to Hobbit migration guide, and I have a
question that I don't think was covered by the document directly.  I
have both a BB and test Hobbit servers up and running.  I have a few
of the monitored clients sending updates to both servers as a test.
Now that I am convinced that Hobbit is ready to be put in production,
I would like to switch the two, i.e., just switch the hostnames and
IP's. and put the hobbit server in the BB server's place.  This would
save us from having to change the BBDISPLAY host on all the monitored
clients.  All of the Hobbit server software was compiled and built on
the test system with the test name and IP.  Can I just change the IP
and hostname on the test machine to the production server and bring
the BB server down and be OK, or will I have to re-compile everything
once I switch them?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff
Where is the BB/Hobbit migration guide to be found?  I just went through 
  the shire and the main hobbit page and didn't see it.

Thanks