Color blind access to graphs
list Scot Kreienkamp
Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it's possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | * XXX-XXX-XXXX | | * 7349151444 | * user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D> www<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>; | facebook.<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>com<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>/<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy>; | twitter.com/lazboy<https://twitter.com/lazboy>; | youtube.com/<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>lazboy<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>; [cid:lzbVertical_hres.jpg] This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable? Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid>
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Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it’s possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! *Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( XXX-XXX-XXXX
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I didn't think we had any control over the colors of the default graphs. =G= From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:32 PM To: Scot Kreienkamp Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Color blind access to graphs EXTERNAL
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Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable?
Josh Luthman
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On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it's possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs?
Thanks!
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | * XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:(734)%20384-6403> | | * 7349151444<tel:(734)%20915-1444> | * user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D>
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I didn't either, but either way there's only so many greyscales that you can pick out of a picture. I think it would be easier to read if it's changed to one value per graph. Scot Kreienkamp Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid
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On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid>> wrote: I didn't think we had any control over the colors of the default graphs. =G= From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>> on behalf of Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:32 PM To: Scot Kreienkamp Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Color blind access to graphs EXTERNAL Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable? Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it’s possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | • XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:(734)%20384-6403> | | • 7349151444<tel:(734)%20915-1444> | • user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D> www<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>; | facebook.<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>com<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>/<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy>; | twitter.com/lazboy<https://twitter.com/lazboy>; | youtube.com/<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>lazboy<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>; [cid:lzbVertical_hres.jpg] This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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The only colors he sees are grayscales. That's kind of hard to pick out 4 distinguishable grayscales in the same graph.
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Scot Kreienkamp
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid
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On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable? Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it’s possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | • XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:(734)%20384-6403> | | • 7349151444<tel:(734)%20915-1444> | • user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D> www<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>; | facebook.<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>com<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>/<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy>; | twitter.com/lazboy<https://twitter.com/lazboy>; | youtube.com/<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>lazboy<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>; [cid:lzbVertical_hres.jpg] This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
list Galen Johnson
Don't disagree, re: graphs... I had a former coworker that was Red/green colorblind and I had to create a set of icons for him. I haven't put them out on xymonton but would be happy to if interested (if Xymon supported glyphicons natively, would've been easier).
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=G= From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> on behalf of Scot Kreienkamp <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:27 PM To: Josh Luthman Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Color blind access to graphs EXTERNAL The only colors he sees are grayscales. That's kind of hard to pick out 4 distinguishable grayscales in the same graph. Scot Kreienkamp Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable? Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid>> wrote: Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it's possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | * XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:(734)%20384-6403> | | * 7349151444<tel:(734)%20915-1444> | * user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D> www<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>; | facebook.<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>com<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>/<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy>; | twitter.com/lazboy<https://twitter.com/lazboy>; | youtube.com/<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>lazboy<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>; [cid:lzbVertical_hres.jpg] This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
list Ralph Mitchell
The rrdtool has an option to use dashed lines for the graphs, but that could wipe out important spikes... Ralph Mitchell
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On Jun 26, 2017 5:48 PM, "Galen Johnson" <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Don't disagree, re: graphs... I had a former coworker that was Red/green colorblind and I had to create a set of icons for him. I haven't put them out on xymonton but would be happy to if interested (if Xymon supported glyphicons natively, would've been easier). =G= *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> on behalf of Scot Kreienkamp < user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid> *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2017 5:27 PM *To:* Josh Luthman *Cc:* xymon at xymon.com *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Color blind access to graphs *EXTERNAL* The only colors he sees are grayscales. That's kind of hard to pick out 4 distinguishable grayscales in the same graph. Scot Kreienkamp *Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>
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Wouldn't it be smarter to use colors that are distinguishable?
Josh Luthman
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XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Jun 26, 2017 4:31 PM, "Scot Kreienkamp" <user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it’s possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! *Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( XXX-XXX-XXXX
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See http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~tmm/talks/minicourse14/vad17canberra-morning.pdf, particularly slides 31, 35, and 48 Her fact-based research and presentations are great.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Scot Kreienkamp Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:18 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [Xymon] Color blind access to graphs Hi everyone, One of the end users in my organization is color blind. That makes reading the various graphs in Xymon very difficult. I know it's possible to use multigraphs to keep the datapoint limit per graph at 4 or less, but is it possible to make it default to 1 datapoint per graph, or even just for specific graphs? Thanks! Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | * XXX-XXX-XXXX | | * 7349151444 | * user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid<mailto:%7BE-mail%7D> www<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com/>; | facebook.<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>com<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>/<https://www.facebook.com/lazboy>lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy>; | twitter.com/lazboy<https://twitter.com/lazboy>; | youtube.com/<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>lazboy<https://www.youtube.com/user/lazboy>;
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