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list Johan Booysen · Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:18:00 +0100 ·
I've now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.

 
I'm pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have
confused myself...

 
Thanks.
list Rafal Roginela · Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:51:34 -0500 ·
Hi,

 
I had the same issue when I installed from RPM's in my case, the actual
server was installed but not the client. Hobbit client needs to be
installed on the local server to monitor those things. The RPM's I used
separated the client and server and I had to install both to get it to
work. But this behavior is different when you install from source I
believe. Hope this helps.

 
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quoted from Johan Booysen


From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:18 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

 
I've now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.

 
I'm pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have
confused myself...

 
Thanks.
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:59:26 -0400 ·
Assuming that the client was installed with it (I believe there is no way
around it, though I could be mistaken) it should be reporting - see if there
is something in Ghosts.

The issue is probably that localhost in bb-hosts - the reporting host from
the client must match that of the host in bb-hosts.

Josh Luthman
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quoted from Johan Booysen


On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Johan Booysen <user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid>wrote:
 I've now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory,
ports and processes.


I'm pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there
anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused
myself…


Thanks.
list Dan McDonald · Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:21:06 -0500 ·
quoted from Johan Booysen
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may
have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

-- 
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX
Austin Energy
http://www.austinenergy.com
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:11:40 +0100 ·
Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.
quoted from Dan McDonald

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:17:02 +0100 ·
Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:24:26 +0100 ·
Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
signature

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

-----Original Message-----

quoted from Johan Booysen
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:35:01 +0100 ·
I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
signature

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

-----Original Message-----

quoted from Johan Booysen
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:51:09 +0100 ·
Ok, so I created a brand new virtual machine (RHEL5) and installed only the hobbit rpm (not the hobbit-client rpm), and it monitors itself (with no configuration changes made at all).

But this doesn't work on a physical server.

Any ideas why?
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 10:35
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
signature

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

-----Original Message-----

quoted from Johan Booysen
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid] Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk, memory, ports and processes.

 
I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
 
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com
list Tom Diehl · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:59:48 -0400 (EDT) ·
quoted from Johan Booysen
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Johan Booysen wrote:
Ok, so I created a brand new virtual machine (RHEL5) and installed only the hobbit rpm (not the hobbit-client rpm), and it monitors itself (with no configuration changes made at all).

But this doesn't work on a physical server.
Normally it does work on any server. I only have the 
server installed here and it monitors itself (El4). Try rpm -V hobbit on
the broken machine and see if there are missing files. Other than that
I have no idea what would cause this problem.
quoted from Johan Booysen

Any ideas why?

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:35
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
quoted from Johan Booysen

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.


I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may
have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com

-- 

Tom Diehl		user-6203f2c4f8ec@xymon.invalid		Spamtrap address user-0545b31a2bcf@xymon.invalid
list Tom Kauffman · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:45:32 -0400 ·
If the package(s) you are installing are properly prepared, the client code will be in /usr/lib/hobbit/client. The server startup will automatically start the client IF the client is installed on the system.

I am confused by the placement in /usr/lib; this doesn't look anything like the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy standard was followed.
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:51 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Ok, so I created a brand new virtual machine (RHEL5) and installed only the hobbit rpm (not the hobbit-client rpm), and it monitors itself (with no configuration changes made at all).

But this doesn't work on a physical server.

Any ideas why?

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:35
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
quoted from Tom Diehl

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That's kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I've now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.


I'm pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may
have confused myself...
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com

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list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:50:55 +0100 ·
I reckon I'm just going to do this on the virtual machine then, because it's important that I also monitor that server on which I was planning to install the halfling.

Thanks.
quoted from Tom Diehl


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Diehl [mailto:user-6203f2c4f8ec@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 12 August 2008 14:00
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Re: monitoring of server itself

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Johan Booysen wrote:
Ok, so I created a brand new virtual machine (RHEL5) and installed only the hobbit rpm (not the hobbit-client rpm), and it monitors itself (with no configuration changes made at all).

But this doesn't work on a physical server.
Normally it does work on any server. I only have the server installed here and it monitors itself (El4). Try rpm -V hobbit on the broken machine and see if there are missing files. Other than that I have no idea what would cause this problem.

Any ideas why?

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:35
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
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I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I went along!!

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quoted from Johan Booysen
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That’s kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I’ve now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.


I’m pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may
have confused myself…
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
Thanks.

--
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com

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Tom Diehl		user-6203f2c4f8ec@xymon.invalid		Spamtrap address user-0545b31a2bcf@xymon.invalid
list Johan Booysen · Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:52:46 +0100 ·
Ok, I see what you mean - thanks.  Well I've already removed it from the
physical server.  Will just stick with the virtual machine for now.
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Kauffman, Tom [mailto:user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 12 August 2008 14:46
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

If the package(s) you are installing are properly prepared, the client
code will be in /usr/lib/hobbit/client. The server startup will
automatically start the client IF the client is installed on the system.

I am confused by the placement in /usr/lib; this doesn't look anything
like the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy standard was followed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:51 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Ok, so I created a brand new virtual machine (RHEL5) and installed only
the hobbit rpm (not the hobbit-client rpm), and it monitors itself (with
no configuration changes made at all).

But this doesn't work on a physical server.

Any ideas why?

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:35
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

I spoke too soon.  Damn.  So annoying.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 10:24
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Heeheehee - I just copied over the following from the test lab server to
the production server, and now the server is monitoring itself without
hobbit-client being installed:

/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/var/lib/hobbit

I have no idea why, but will try to figure out exactly what I did.

:)
quoted from Johan Booysen

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:17
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Oh dear - I'm installing hobbit using the rpms which I included in a
local yum repository.

When trying to install hobbit-client on the server, the result is:

yum install hobbit-client
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hobbit-client.i386 0:4.2.0-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit conflicts hobbit-client
--> Processing Conflict: hobbit-client conflicts hobbit
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: hobbit conflicts with hobbit-client
Error: hobbit-client conflicts with hobbit

:(
signature

I guess I'm just going to have to take another real good look at the
test lab server and see what I did to get it to monitor itself without
having the client installed.  I knew I should have written it down as I
went along!!

-----Original Message-----

quoted from Johan Booysen
From: Johan Booysen [mailto:user-6f017f1ad8a9@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 12 August 2008 09:12
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

Thanks for the replies to my question.

That's kinda weird because on my test lab server I most definitely did
not install the client - I just double-checked, and it monitored itself
quite happily...

Strange, but there you go.

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Dan [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 11 August 2008 18:21
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] monitoring of server itself

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:18 +0100, Johan Booysen wrote:
I've now installed hobbit on the production server, and added the
clients.  Everything looks ok, but the server (defined by default as
localhost in bb-hosts) does not seem to monitor its own cpu, disk,
memory, ports and processes.


I'm pretty sure my test lab server monitored those by default.  Or is
there anything specific one should do on the server itself?  I may
have confused myself...
You need to install (and start) the client on the server.

Check ghosts to see if it is trying to report a different name...
Thanks.

--

ustinenergy.com
quoted from Tom Kauffman

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