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Hobbit on a virtual machine?

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list Brian Thompson · Fri, 11 May 2007 12:00:40 -0400 ·
Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I didn't see
anything about running hobbit on a VM.  We are currently doing this and
we're having all kinds of issues with it.  I don't know if it's an
Ubuntu problem, a Hobbit problem, or a VMWare problem, but I thought I
would check here first and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on
a VM, or even better, running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've
had any issues.

Thanks,

Brian Thompson
list Tod Hansmann · Fri, 11 May 2007 10:06:26 -0600 ·
It shouldn't care what it's on, as long as it's got a network
connection.  There's nothing that low-level in hobbit to care what it's
running on unless it's just a lack of system resources.

 
What kind of problems are you having?

 
Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer
quoted from Brian Thompson


From: Thompson, Brian [mailto:user-1664ec030a9d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:01 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?

 
Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I didn't see
anything about running hobbit on a VM.  We are currently doing this and
we're having all kinds of issues with it.  I don't know if it's an
Ubuntu problem, a Hobbit problem, or a VMWare problem, but I thought I
would check here first and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on
a VM, or even better, running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've
had any issues.

Thanks, 

Brian Thompson
list Ralph Mitchell · Fri, 11 May 2007 11:34:09 -0500 ·
quoted from Tod Hansmann
On 5/11/07, Thompson, Brian <user-1664ec030a9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I didn't see anything
about running hobbit on a VM.  We are currently doing this and we're having
all kinds of issues with it.  I don't know if it's an Ubuntu problem, a
Hobbit problem, or a VMWare problem, but I thought I would check here first
and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on a VM, or even better,
running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've had any issues.
Henrik put together a VMWare appliance with Debian+Hobbit.  It's in
the Hobbitmon Files page on Sourceforge:

   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058&package_id=200171

Roughly 250Mb...  I've tried it, and it works just fine.

Ralph Mitchell
list Stephen Budgeon · Fri, 11 May 2007 09:41:11 -0700 ·
The only problem we had with it was due to the time drifting... Because
the VM does not run 100% of the time, the clock can fall behind.  This was especially apparent on Fedora...

See
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa;jsessionid=2A2133B9464ADCBE6B6
C37F578A998E8?messageID=382726&#382726

-S
quoted from Ralph Mitchell

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:34 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?

On 5/11/07, Thompson, Brian <user-1664ec030a9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I didn't see anything about running hobbit on a VM.  We are currently doing this and we're having all kinds of issues with it.  I don't know if it's an Ubuntu problem, a Hobbit problem, or a VMWare problem, but I thought I would check here first and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on a VM, or even better, running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've
had any issues.
Henrik put together a VMWare appliance with Debian+Hobbit.  It's in the
Hobbitmon Files page on Sourceforge:

 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058&package_id=20
0171
quoted from Ralph Mitchell

Roughly 250Mb...  I've tried it, and it works just fine.

Ralph Mitchell
list Ralph Mitchell · Fri, 11 May 2007 11:53:07 -0500 ·
On 5/11/07, user-7c93eddf04c3@xymon.invalid
quoted from Stephen Budgeon
<user-7c93eddf04c3@xymon.invalid> wrote:
The only problem we had with it was due to the time drifting... Because
the VM does not run 100% of the time, the clock can fall behind.
This was especially apparent on Fedora...

See
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa;jsessionid=2A2133B9464ADCBE6B6
C37F578A998E8?messageID=382726&#382726
I remember reading about clock drift, but not how to fix it.  That's
useful, thanks... :)

I didn't run it very long.  I just wanted to see how well it worked,
with view to setting up a "disaster recovery" image so that if our
Hobbit server crashed and burned I'd be able to fire up a copy
*really* quickly on any available hardware, such as my laptop.  Given
that the server is a single-733MHz-cpu DL380, I figured a VMWare
instance on a 2GHz laptop ought to be able to keep up fairly well. :)

Ralph Mitchell
list Aaron Stranberg · Fri, 11 May 2007 18:18:17 +0000 ·
Maybe you could sink to ntp from the vm, we do that for most of our vm's.  Also I am running hobbit on feisty with out many issues.-Aaron> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:53:07 -0500> From: user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?> > On 5/11/07, user-7c93eddf04c3@xymon.invalid> <user-7c93eddf04c3@xymon.invalid> wrote:> > The only problem we had with it was due to the time drifting... Because> > the VM does not run 100% of the time, the clock can fall behind.> > This was especially apparent on Fedora...> >> > See> > http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa;jsessionid=2A2133B9464ADCBE6B6>; > C37F578A998E8?messageID=382726&#382726> >> > I remember reading about clock drift, but not how to fix it.  That's> useful, thanks... :)> > I didn't run it very long.  I just wanted to see how well it worked,> with view to setting up a "disaster recovery" image so that if our> Hobbit server crashed and burned I'd be able to fire up a copy> *really* quickly on any available hardware, such as my laptop.  Given> that the server is a single-733MHz-cpu DL380, I figured a VMWare> instance on a 2GHz laptop ought to be able to keep up fairly well. :)> > Ralph Mitchell> >  > 
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list Brian Thompson · Fri, 11 May 2007 16:26:50 -0400 ·
It seems to be unrelated to hobbit really, but I get odd crashes of the
daemon, I had to run an fsck the other day after getting an image, and
now that we had a VM server crash we can't restore ANY of our images of
it, no matter what we do.  I've personally restored some of the older
images before and now none of them work.  The other 50 or 60 VM's are
all fine but this one just isn't having it.
 
I just wanted to make sure there weren't any specific hobbit-related
issues with running on a VM, so now I can probably dig into the next
level or just move it off the VM entirely.
 
Thanks for all the replies,

Brian Thompson
quoted from Tod Hansmann

 
	From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:06 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?
	
	
	It shouldn't care what it's on, as long as it's got a network
connection.  There's nothing that low-level in hobbit to care what it's
running on unless it's just a lack of system resources.

	 
	What kind of problems are you having?

	 
	Tod Hansmann

	Network Engineer

	
	From: Thompson, Brian [mailto:user-1664ec030a9d@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:01 AM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?

	 
	Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I didn't
see anything about running hobbit on a VM.  We are currently doing this
and we're having all kinds of issues with it.  I don't know if it's an
Ubuntu problem, a Hobbit problem, or a VMWare problem, but I thought I
would check here first and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on
a VM, or even better, running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've
had any issues.

	Thanks, 

	Brian Thompson
list Geoff · Sun, 13 May 2007 16:14:57 +1000 ·
While I haven't run that many VM's on a single server, I've had no
issues with Hobbit running on them.
My server is on a VM session and I have a range of clients also on VM
sessions (Centos mostly but also Suse and W2K)

Running latest hobbit.

Regards
Geoff
quoted from Brian Thompson

On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 16:26 -0400, Thompson, Brian wrote:
It seems to be unrelated to hobbit really, but I get odd crashes of
the daemon, I had to run an fsck the other day after getting an image,
and now that we had a VM server crash we can't restore ANY of our
images of it, no matter what we do.  I've personally restored some of
the older images before and now none of them work.  The other 50 or 60
VM's are all fine but this one just isn't having it.
 I just wanted to make sure there weren't any specific hobbit-related
issues with running on a VM, so now I can probably dig into the next
level or just move it off the VM entirely.
 Thanks for all the replies,
Brian Thompson

 
        From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid]         Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:06 PM
        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
        Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?
                                It shouldn’t care what it’s on, as long as it’s got a network
        connection.  There’s nothing that low-level in hobbit to care
        what it’s running on unless it’s just a lack of system
        resources.
                                 What kind of problems are you having?
                                 Tod Hansmann
                Network Engineer
        From: Thompson, Brian
        [mailto:user-1664ec030a9d@xymon.invalid]         Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:01 AM
        To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
        Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit on a virtual machine?
                                         Hi all, I was looking through the hobbit man-pages and I
        didn't see anything about running hobbit on a VM.  We are
        currently doing this and we're having all kinds of issues with
        it.  I don't know if it's an Ubuntu problem, a Hobbit problem,
        or a VMWare problem, but I thought I would check here first
        and see if anyone out there is running Hobbit on a VM, or even
        better, running it on Ubuntu on a VM and see if they've had
        any issues.
                Thanks,                 Brian Thompson