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NCV problems still

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list Phil Wild · Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:56:40 +0800 ·
 
Hi Hobbit users,
 
Is anyone successfully using the NCV functionality to trend statistics
for more than one variable? I can not seem to get two variables into an
RRD and have not been able to find any hints by searching the archives.
 
The rrd is created but only ever has the first variable (DEV) in it.
 
Is there a way of turning on some form of debugging for the process that
parses the status messages and builds the rrd file?
Everything else seems to work fine including an external larrd script
that builds rrd data for sar.
 
My status message looks like this:
 
green Fri Jan 6 13:51:36 WST 2006 
DEV : 57
RUN : 20

Thanks
 
Phil

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list Tracy J. di Marco White · Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:24:38 CST ·
quoted from Phil Wild
In message <user-4b564f66c6bc@xymon.invalid>, "Wild, Phil" writes:

}Hi Hobbit users,
} 
}Is anyone successfully using the NCV functionality to trend statistics
}for more than one variable? I can not seem to get two variables into an
}RRD and have not been able to find any hints by searching the archives.
} 
}The rrd is created but only ever has the first variable (DEV) in it.
} 
}Is there a way of turning on some form of debugging for the process that
}parses the status messages and builds the rrd file?
}Everything else seems to work fine including an external larrd script
}that builds rrd data for sar.
} 
}My status message looks like this:
} 
}green Fri Jan 6 13:51:36 WST 2006 
}DEV : 57
}RUN : 20
}
}Thanks

I was only able to get multiple variables into an rrd by deleting
the rrd and starting over, then it started saving all of the variables
properly.  I assume the rrd file can't really grow new variables.
I haven't yet figured out how to graph all of them though. 

Tracy J. Di Marco White
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
list Phil Wild · Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:39:25 +0800 ·
Hi Tracy, 

Thanks for the response. If you are expecting the number of variables to
vary from one status message to the next then you need to write your own
parsing script and store the variables in individual RRD's ala how the
disk rrd's are built.

Fy first status message has a DEV line and a RUN line but it seems to
only process the DEV line. It has me stumped. I'm almost ready to give
up on the NCV functionality and write my own parsing script.

Cheers

Phil
quoted from Tracy J. di Marco White

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy J. Di Marco White [mailto:user-4d3c8321d54f@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2006 2:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] NCV problems still 


In message
<user-4b564f66c6bc@xymon.invalid>,
"Wild, Phil" writes:

}Hi Hobbit users,
}
}Is anyone successfully using the NCV functionality to trend statistics
}for more than one variable? I can not seem to get two variables into an
}RRD and have not been able to find any hints by searching the archives.
}
}The rrd is created but only ever has the first variable (DEV) in it.
}
}Is there a way of turning on some form of debugging for the process
that }parses the status messages and builds the rrd file?
}Everything else seems to work fine including an external larrd script
}that builds rrd data for sar.
}
}My status message looks like this:
}
}green Fri Jan 6 13:51:36 WST 2006
}DEV : 57
}RUN : 20
}
}Thanks

I was only able to get multiple variables into an rrd by deleting the
rrd and starting over, then it started saving all of the variables
properly.  I assume the rrd file can't really grow new variables.
I haven't yet figured out how to graph all of them though. 

Tracy J. Di Marco White
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University


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list Henrik Størner · Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:14:02 +0100 ·
quoted from Phil Wild
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:39:25PM +0800, Wild, Phil wrote:
Fy first status message has a DEV line and a RUN line but it seems to
only process the DEV line. It has me stumped. I'm almost ready to give
up on the NCV functionality and write my own parsing script.
I have absolutely no problems when I reproduce your setup. I've done it
on the Hobbit demo site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/servers/ - look at
the bottom of the page for the "osiris.hswn.dk" host.

All of the config. files are online, you can see them via the "Demo
Site" menu item. The changes I made were:

1) Add "pro4=ncv" to TEST2RRD in hobbitserver.cfg

2) Add "pro4" (and "ncv" if it's not there) to GRAPHS in hobbitserver.cfg

3) Add a new setting NCV_pro4="DEV:GAUGE,RUN:GAUGE" to hobbitserver.cfg

4) Kill the hobbitd_rrd processes so they restart and pick up the new
   hobbitserver.cfg settings

5) Define the [pro4] setting in hobbitgraph.cfg
   [pro4]
        TITLE Pro4 graphs
        YAXIS Seconds
        DEF:dev=pro4.rrd:DEV:AVERAGE
        DEF:run=pro4.rrd:RUN:AVERAGE
        LINE2:dev#00CCCC:DEV time
        LINE2:run#FF0000:RUN time
        COMMENT:\n
        GPRINT:dev:LAST:DEV time \: %5.1lf%s (cur)
        GPRINT:dev:MAX: \: %5.1lf%s (max)
        GPRINT:dev:MIN: \: %5.1lf%s (min)
        GPRINT:dev:AVERAGE: \: %5.1lf%s (avg)\n
        GPRINT:run:LAST:RUN time \: %5.1lf%s (cur)
        GPRINT:run:MAX: \: %5.1lf%s (max)
        GPRINT:run:MIN: \: %5.1lf%s (min)
        GPRINT:run:AVERAGE: \: %5.1lf%s (avg)\n

6) Start sending status messages for the "pro4" status using this
   script (dummy data, cut-and-pasted from your mails):

   #!/bin/sh
   $BB 172.16.10.2 "status osiris,hswn.dk.pro4 green `date`
   DEV : 57
   RUN : 20
   "
   exit 0


Regards,
Henrik
list Tracy J. di Marco White · Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:27:46 CST ·
quoted from Phil Wild
In message <user-a756aa159257@xymon.invalid>, "Wild, Phil" writes:
}Hi Tracy, 
}
}Thanks for the response. If you are expecting the number of variables to
}vary from one status message to the next then you need to write your own
}parsing script and store the variables in individual RRD's ala how the
}disk rrd's are built.

I don't actually expect them to change, I just was able to monitor a
lot more than I had originally planned, and went from 1 variable to
28.  The rrd is fine, I just haven't gotten around to figuring out
what to do about graphing.
quoted from Henrik Størner

}Fy first status message has a DEV line and a RUN line but it seems to
}only process the DEV line. It has me stumped. I'm almost ready to give
}up on the NCV functionality and write my own parsing script.

I had to enable debugging to find out why the rrd wouldn't take the
new variables, but once I did the errors made it obvious.  Do you
have error logs?  My errors included not having every variable
listed correctly in NCV_afs in hobbitserver.cfg, as well as needing
to start with a fresh rrd.

-Tracy
quoted from Phil Wild

}-----Original Message-----
}From: Tracy J. Di Marco White [mailto:user-4d3c8321d54f@xymon.invalid] =
}
}Sent: Friday, 6 January 2006 2:25 PM
}To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
}Subject: Re: [hobbit] NCV problems still 
}
}
}In message
}<user-4b564f66c6bc@xymon.invalid>, "Wild, Phil" writes:
}
}}Hi Hobbit users,
}}
}}Is anyone successfully using the NCV functionality to trend statistics
}}for more than one variable? I can not seem to get two variables into an
}}RRD and have not been able to find any hints by searching the archives.
}}
}}The rrd is created but only ever has the first variable (DEV) in it.
}}
}}Is there a way of turning on some form of debugging for the process
}that }parses the status messages and builds the rrd file?
}}Everything else seems to work fine including an external larrd script
}}that builds rrd data for sar.
}}
}}My status message looks like this:
}}
}}green Fri Jan 6 13:51:36 WST 2006
}}DEV : 57
}}RUN : 20
}}
}}Thanks
}
}I was only able to get multiple variables into an rrd by deleting the
}rrd and starting over, then it started saving all of the variables
}properly.  I assume the rrd file can't really grow new variables.
}I haven't yet figured out how to graph all of them though. 

Tracy J. Di Marco White
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
list Phil Wild · Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:39:54 +0800 ·
Wow,

Thanks for going to this effort....

I also have no idea as to why. I will do some more digging and will let
you know where I screwed up. Perhaps my client script is putting
soemthing in the file that I don't see. I will try sending test messages
as you have and see if things become better.

Thanks

Phil
quoted from Henrik Størner

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2006 3:14 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] NCV problems still

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:39:25PM +0800, Wild, Phil wrote:
Fy first status message has a DEV line and a RUN line but it seems to 
only process the DEV line. It has me stumped. I'm almost ready to give
up on the NCV functionality and write my own parsing script.
I have absolutely no problems when I reproduce your setup. I've done it
on the Hobbit demo site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/servers/ - look at
the bottom of the page for the "osiris.hswn.dk" host.

All of the config. files are online, you can see them via the "Demo
Site" menu item. The changes I made were:

1) Add "pro4=ncv" to TEST2RRD in hobbitserver.cfg

2) Add "pro4" (and "ncv" if it's not there) to GRAPHS in
hobbitserver.cfg

3) Add a new setting NCV_pro4="DEV:GAUGE,RUN:GAUGE" to hobbitserver.cfg

4) Kill the hobbitd_rrd processes so they restart and pick up the new
   hobbitserver.cfg settings

5) Define the [pro4] setting in hobbitgraph.cfg
   [pro4]
        TITLE Pro4 graphs
        YAXIS Seconds
        DEF:dev=pro4.rrd:DEV:AVERAGE
        DEF:run=pro4.rrd:RUN:AVERAGE
        LINE2:dev#00CCCC:DEV time
        LINE2:run#FF0000:RUN time
        COMMENT:\n
        GPRINT:dev:LAST:DEV time \: %5.1lf%s (cur)
        GPRINT:dev:MAX: \: %5.1lf%s (max)
        GPRINT:dev:MIN: \: %5.1lf%s (min)
        GPRINT:dev:AVERAGE: \: %5.1lf%s (avg)\n
        GPRINT:run:LAST:RUN time \: %5.1lf%s (cur)
        GPRINT:run:MAX: \: %5.1lf%s (max)
        GPRINT:run:MIN: \: %5.1lf%s (min)
        GPRINT:run:AVERAGE: \: %5.1lf%s (avg)\n

6) Start sending status messages for the "pro4" status using this
   script (dummy data, cut-and-pasted from your mails):

   #!/bin/sh
   $BB 172.16.10.2 "status osiris,hswn.dk.pro4 green `date`
   DEV : 57
   RUN : 20
   "
   exit 0


Regards,
Henrik


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list Rolf Schrittenlocher · Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:41:39 +0100 ·
Hi,

as hobbit client (hobbit-4.1.2p1) on Solaris couldn't find top I had to 
change hobbitclient-sunos.sh as follows:
old:
echo "[top]"
top -b 20
new:
echo "[top]"
$TOP -b 20

so the settings of hobbitclient.cfg are used.

kind regards
Rolf

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list Buchan Milne · Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:16:41 +0200 ·
quoted from Tracy J. di Marco White
On Friday 06 January 2006 07:56, Wild, Phil wrote:
Hi Hobbit users,

Is anyone successfully using the NCV functionality to trend statistics
for more than one variable? 
recording 28 variables, only graphing 6 at present:

http://196.25.211.21/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOSTSVC=io.ol

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