RRDs created, never updated

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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:20:42 -0800 ·

I've been using BB/Hobbit with RRDtool for, I guess at least 5 years, maybe
more.  I've installed it successfully on maybe 10 servers.  Things certainly
got easier with Hobbit compared to BB!

I've just installed Hobbit on a Centos 5.2 box and for the life of me I
can't work out why my RRDs aren't getting updated (they are always created
during first run, but never updated).  I've grepped every log, history file,
etc I can find and can find no hints.  Can someone suggest where to look for
errors or problems to do with *updating* the RRDs?

Everything is stock, I haven't touched the bb-hosts file, indeed anything
really...

Jeremy

Extra info... The RRDs are created when hobbit is first run

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbgen.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbtest.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 clock.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,boot.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,root.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 437200 Nov  5 09:01 hobbitd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 ifstat.eth0.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 la.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.actual.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.real.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.swap.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 304312 Nov  5 08:57 netstat.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 procs.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.bbd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.conn.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.http.yyyyyyy.xxxxxx.com
,.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 users.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 323296 Nov  5 09:02 vmstat.rrd

list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:31:09 -0600 ·

So if you tail rrd-data.log and rrd-status.log you don't see any messages that indicate any failure in the rrd process?

Does the Hobbit web display show any red alerts indicating that a rrd process crashed?

Which release of Hobbit are you running?

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I've been using BB/Hobbit with RRDtool for, I guess at least 5 years, maybe more.  I've installed it successfully on maybe 10 servers.  Things certainly got easier with Hobbit compared to BB!

I've just installed Hobbit on a Centos 5.2 box and for the life of me I can't work out why my RRDs aren't getting updated (they are always created during first run, but never updated).  I've grepped every log, history file, etc I can find and can find no hints.  Can someone suggest where to look for errors or problems to do with *updating* the RRDs?

Everything is stock, I haven't touched the bb-hosts file, indeed anything really...

Jeremy

Extra info... The RRDs are created when hobbit is first run

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbgen.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbtest.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 clock.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,boot.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,root.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 437200 Nov  5 09:01 hobbitd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 ifstat.eth0.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 la.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.actual.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.real.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.swap.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 304312 Nov  5 08:57 netstat.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 procs.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.bbd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.conn.rrd


-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.http.yyyyyyy.xxxxxx.com <http://tcp.http.yyyyyyy.xxxxxx.com>,.rrd

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 users.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 323296 Nov  5 09:02 vmstat.rrd

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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:48:57 -0800 ·

Hi Rich,

Thank you for your quick response.

I am using hobbit-4.2.0.

I have no red alerts.

Green: bbd,bbgen,bbtest,conn,cpu,disk,hobbitd,http,info,memory,msgs*,trends
Grey: files,ports,procs

Note I did have to make /var/log/messages 660 and root.hobbit for it to be
read.

I get nothing in the logs.  After deleting all logs, and stopping and
starting hobbit, and waiting 20 minutes, I get this:

[root at zzz hobbit]# ll
total 16
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 acknowledge.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 bbcombotest.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 bb-display.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 bb-network.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 bb-retest.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 clientdata.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 history.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 hobbitclient.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  35 Nov  6 04:12 hobbitd.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   6 Nov  6 04:12 hobbitd.pid
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 421 Nov  6 04:12 hobbitlaunch.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   6 Nov  6 04:12 hobbitlaunch.pid
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 hostdata.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 notifications.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 page.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 rrd-data.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   0 Nov  6 04:12 rrd-status.log
[root at zzz hobbit]# cat *
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Setup complete
15872
2008-11-06 04:12:45 hobbitlaunch starting
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Loading tasklist configuration from
/usr/local/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitlaunch.cfg
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Loading hostnames
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Loading saved state
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Setting up network listener on 0.0.0.0:1984
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Setting up signal handlers
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Setting up hobbitd channels
2008-11-06 04:12:45 Setting up logfiles
15871

TIA,

Jeremy

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina



On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So if you tail rrd-data.log and rrd-status.log you don't see any messages
that indicate any failure in the rrd process?

Does the Hobbit web display show any red alerts indicating that a rrd
process crashed?

Which release of Hobbit are you running?

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I've been using BB/Hobbit with RRDtool for, I guess at least 5 years,
maybe more.  I've installed it successfully on maybe 10 servers.  Things
certainly got easier with Hobbit compared to BB!

I've just installed Hobbit on a Centos 5.2 box and for the life of me I
can't work out why my RRDs aren't getting updated (they are always created
during first run, but never updated).  I've grepped every log, history file,
etc I can find and can find no hints.  Can someone suggest where to look for
errors or problems to do with *updating* the RRDs?

Everything is stock, I haven't touched the bb-hosts file, indeed anything
really...

Jeremy

Extra info... The RRDs are created when hobbit is first run

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbgen.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 bbtest.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 clock.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,boot.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 disk,root.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 437200 Nov  5 09:01 hobbitd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  38536 Nov  5 08:57 ifstat.eth0.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 la.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.actual.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.real.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 memory.swap.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 304312 Nov  5 08:57 netstat.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 procs.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.bbd.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56 tcp.conn.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:56
tcp.http.yyyyyyy.xxxxxx.com <http://tcp.http.yyyyyyy.xxxxxx.com>,.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  19552 Nov  5 08:57 users.rrd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 323296 Nov  5 09:02 vmstat.rrd

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list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:57:52 -0600 ·

There are ALOT of patches on top of hobbit-4.2.0.  Did you put any of them on?

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Hi Rich,

Thank you for your quick response.

I am using hobbit-4.2.0.

I have no red alerts.

Green: bbd,bbgen,bbtest,conn,cpu,disk,hobbitd,http,info,memory,msgs*,trends
Grey: files,ports,procs

Note I did have to make /var/log/messages 660 and root.hobbit for it to 
be read.


... big-snip...

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:02:22 -0800 ·

No, I haven't patched at all.  I don't see any patches at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058.

Perhaps worth mentioning - the hist directory appears to have events
generated at first run, but never thereafter (other than the "allevents"
file).

[root at zzzz hist]# pwd
/usr/local/hobbit/data/hist
[root at zzzz hist]# ll
total 60
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 1180 Nov  6 04:22 allevents
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  780 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbgen
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbtest
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.conn
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.cpu
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.disk
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.files
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  276 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.hobbitd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.http
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.memory
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 09:02 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.msgs
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.ports
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.procs

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina



Jeremy.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

There are ALOT of patches on top of hobbit-4.2.0.  Did you put any of them
on?

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Hi Rich,

Thank you for your quick response.

I am using hobbit-4.2.0.

I have no red alerts.

Green:
bbd,bbgen,bbtest,conn,cpu,disk,hobbitd,http,info,memory,msgs*,trends
Grey: files,ports,procs

Note I did have to make /var/log/messages 660 and root.hobbit for it to be
read.
... big-snip...

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list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:12:06 -0600 ·

Jeremy,

See here (http://www.hobbitmon.com/patches/) for post 4.2.0 patches.

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

No, I haven't patched at all.  I don't see any patches at 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058.

Perhaps worth mentioning - the hist directory appears to have events 
generated at first run, but never thereafter (other than the "allevents" 
file).

[root at zzzz hist]# pwd
/usr/local/hobbit/data/hist
[root at zzzz hist]# ll
total 60
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 1180 Nov  6 04:22 allevents
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  780 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com


<http://zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com>;

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbgen
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbtest
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.conn
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.cpu
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.disk
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.files
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  276 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.hobbitd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.http
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.memory
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 09:02 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.msgs
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.ports
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.procs


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list Stef Coene · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:25:58 +0100 ·

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

On Wednesday 05 November 2008, Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I've been using BB/Hobbit with RRDtool for, I guess at least 5 years, maybe
more.  I've installed it successfully on maybe 10 servers.  Things
certainly got easier with Hobbit compared to BB!

I've just installed Hobbit on a Centos 5.2 box and for the life of me I
can't work out why my RRDs aren't getting updated (they are always created
during first run, but never updated).  I've grepped every log, history
file, etc I can find and can find no hints.  Can someone suggest where to
look for errors or problems to do with *updating* the RRDs?

I never had such a problem on any installation.  Ones a rrd file is created, it is also updated.

Can you check if you have the needed processes running ?

"ps -ef | grep hobbitd_rrd" shows 4 processes on my box (lines are truncated):

hobbit   17554 17534  0 16:39 ?        00:00:05 hobbitd_channel --channel=status --log=/home/users/hobbit/server/log/rrd-status.log hobbitd_rrd --rrddir=/home/users/hobbit/data/rrd
hobbit   17558 17534  0 16:39 ?        00:00:00 hobbitd_channel --channel=data --log=/home/users/hobbit/server/log/rrd-data.log hobbitd_rrd --rrddir=/home/users/hobbit/data/rrd
hobbit   17559 17558  0 16:39 ?        00:00:16 hobbitd_rrd --rrddir=/home/users/hobbit/data/rrd
hobbit   17564 17554  0 16:39 ?        00:00:43 hobbitd_rrd --rrddir=/home/users/hobbit/data/rrd

You can also trigger an error by making the rrd files unwritable by the hobbit user.  This should put an error in the server logfiles whenever hobbit tries to update the rrd files.


Stef

list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:31:04 -0800 ·

Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4.

After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which doesn't
appear to present a problem at the time as it continues apparently ok):

Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng


After starting hobbit, now I get "bbdisplay terminated by signal 6" in the
hobbitlaunch.log, and my hobbit HTML page doesn't work anymore (Going to the
hobbit index webpage I get:

Index of /hobbit

    * Parent Directory
    * gifs/
    * help/
    * html/
    * menu/
    * notes/
    * rep/
    * snap/
    * wml/
).

Hobbitlaunch contains:

==> /var/log/hobbit/hobbitlaunch.log <==
2008-11-06 05:21:46 hobbitlaunch starting
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Loading tasklist configuration from
/usr/local/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitlaunch.cfg
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Loading hostnames
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Loading saved state
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Setting up network listener on 0.0.0.0:1984
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Setting up signal handlers
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Setting up hobbitd channels
2008-11-06 05:21:46 Setting up logfiles
2008-11-06 05:21:51 Task bbdisplay terminated by signal 6
2008-11-06 05:22:51 Task bbdisplay terminated by signal 6
2008-11-06 05:23:51 Task bbdisplay terminated by signal 6

Additionally, the RRD files are, as before, created but never updated.

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


Jeremy


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Jeremy,

See here (http://www.hobbitmon.com/patches/) for post 4.2.0 patches.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

No, I haven't patched at all.  I don't see any patches at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058.

Perhaps worth mentioning - the hist directory appears to have events
generated at first run, but never thereafter (other than the "allevents"
file).

[root at zzzz hist]# pwd
/usr/local/hobbit/data/hist
[root at zzzz hist]# ll
total 60
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 1180 Nov  6 04:22 allevents
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  780 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com <
http://zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com>;
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbgen
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbtest
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.conn
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.cpu
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.disk
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.files
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  276 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.hobbitd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.http
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.memory
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 09:02 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.msgs
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.ports
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.procs

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list Jon Boede · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:35:48 -0600 ·

Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the all in one 
patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on SourceForge??

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


Rich Smrcina wrote:

Jeremy,

See here (http://www.hobbitmon.com/patches/) for post 4.2.0 patches.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

No, I haven't patched at all.  I don't see any patches at 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058.

Perhaps worth mentioning - the hist directory appears to have events 
generated at first run, but never thereafter (other than the 
"allevents" file).

[root at zzzz hist]# pwd
/usr/local/hobbit/data/hist
[root at zzzz hist]# ll
total 60
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 1180 Nov  6 04:22 allevents
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  780 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com 
<http://zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com>;
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbgen
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbtest
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.conn
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.cpu
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.disk
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.files
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  276 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.hobbitd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.http
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.memory
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 09:02 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.msgs
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.ports
-rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.procs

list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:45:12 -0600 ·

Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current snapshot and my rrd is 
only 1.2.12.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>;

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which doesn't 
appear to present a problem at the time as it continues apparently ok):

Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng

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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:56:14 -0800 ·

I have install RRDTool 1.2.28 now so I have:

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# ll /usr/local/ | grep rrd
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  6 05:41 rrdtool-1.2.28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  5 04:44 rrdtool-1.3.4

I seem to be having trouble getting hobbit to use 1.2.28.  At first I just
removed the 1.3.4 directory, hobbit configure reported that it detected and
was using rrdtool 1.2, but when it ran the logs filled with errors about not
finding 1.3.4 files.

I then restored 1.3.4 and tried using:

./configure --server --rrdinclude=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include
--rrdlib=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28

However ./configure appears to ignore the extra commands and says it will
use 1.3.4 files:

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"


Can anyone advise how to properly remove RRDtool 1.3.4 or get hobbit to
configure using 1.2.28?

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


TIA!

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current snapshot
and my rrd is only 1.2.12.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>;
After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which doesn't
appear to present a problem at the time as it continues apparently ok):

Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng

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list Larry Barber · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:07:24 -0600 ·

You may need to remove your .rrd. files that 1.3.4 generated and start from
scratch.

Thanks,
Larry Barber

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Jeremy Cappilero <user-ecc73dbeb460@xymon.invalid

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

wrote:

I have install RRDTool 1.2.28 now so I have:

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# ll /usr/local/ | grep rrd
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  6 05:41 rrdtool-1.2.28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  5 04:44 rrdtool-1.3.4

I seem to be having trouble getting hobbit to use 1.2.28.  At first I just
removed the 1.3.4 directory, hobbit configure reported that it detected and
was using rrdtool 1.2, but when it ran the logs filled with errors about not
finding 1.3.4 files.

I then restored 1.3.4 and tried using:

./configure --server --rrdinclude=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include
--rrdlib=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28

However ./configure appears to ignore the extra commands and says it will
use 1.3.4 files:

"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"

Can anyone advise how to properly remove RRDtool 1.3.4 or get hobbit to
configure using 1.2.28?

TIA!

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current snapshot
and my rrd is only 1.2.12.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>;
After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which doesn't
appear to present a problem at the time as it continues apparently ok):

Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng

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list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:11:21 -0600 ·

Check to see if you also have a rrdtool-devel package.

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I have install RRDTool 1.2.28 now so I have:

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# ll /usr/local/ | grep rrd
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  6 05:41 rrdtool-1.2.28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  5 04:44 rrdtool-1.3.4


I seem to be having trouble getting hobbit to use 1.2.28. <http://1.2.28.>;  At first I just removed the 1.3.4 directory, hobbit configure reported that it detected and was using rrdtool 1.2, but when it ran the logs filled with errors about not finding 1.3.4 files.

▸ quoted from Larry Barber


I then restored 1.3.4 and tried using:

./configure --server --rrdinclude=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include --rrdlib=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28

However ./configure appears to ignore the extra commands and says it will use 1.3.4 files:

"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"

Can anyone advise how to properly remove RRDtool 1.3.4 or get hobbit to configure using 1.2.28?

TIA!

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current


    snapshot and my rrd is only 1.2.12. <http://1.2.12.>;

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


    Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

        Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

        FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>; <http://1.3.4.>;
        After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which
        doesn't appear to present a problem at the time as it continues
        apparently ok):

        Checking for RRDtool ...
        test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
        test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
        make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
        Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
        Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
        Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
        Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng


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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:15:32 -0800 ·

Hi Larry,

I always "rm -fr /usr/local/hobbit" and "rm -fr /var/log/hobbit/*" before
recompiling to ensure everything is totally clean.

Nonetheless, I get "hobbitd_rrd: error while loading shared libraries:
librrd.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
2008-11-06 06:09:22 Worker process died with exit code 32512, terminating"
in my logs now as it appears to still be looking for the 1.3.4 rrdtool for
some reason (there must be something still on the system that tells it to
look for librrd.so.4)?

This is despite this showing up during configure (having removed the 1.3.4
rrdtool directory entirely before running configure):

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x


Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"

My apologies for getting sidetracked here, but perhaps this will be useful
to archive for other people who need to downgrade their RRDtool (if this is
indeed the problem anyway!).

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Larry Barber <user-6ef9c2864140@xymon.invalid> wrote:

You may need to remove your .rrd. files that 1.3.4 generated and start from
scratch.

Thanks,
Larry Barber


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Jeremy Cappilero <
user-ecc73dbeb460@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I have install RRDTool 1.2.28 now so I have:

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# ll /usr/local/ | grep rrd
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  6 05:41 rrdtool-1.2.28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  5 04:44 rrdtool-1.3.4

I seem to be having trouble getting hobbit to use 1.2.28.  At first I
just removed the 1.3.4 directory, hobbit configure reported that it detected
and was using rrdtool 1.2, but when it ran the logs filled with errors about
not finding 1.3.4 files.

I then restored 1.3.4 and tried using:

./configure --server --rrdinclude=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include
--rrdlib=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28

However ./configure appears to ignore the extra commands and says it will
use 1.3.4 files:

"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"

Can anyone advise how to properly remove RRDtool 1.3.4 or get hobbit to
configure using 1.2.28?

TIA!

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current
snapshot and my rrd is only 1.2.12.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>;
After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which doesn't
appear to present a problem at the time as it continues apparently ok):

Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng

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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:17:19 -0800 ·

I am installing rrdtool from source.  So no packages to easily uninstall.

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# updatedb
[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# locate rrdtool-devel
[no output]

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Check to see if you also have a rrdtool-devel package.

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I have install RRDTool 1.2.28 now so I have:

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# ll /usr/local/ | grep rrd
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  6 05:41 rrdtool-1.2.28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Nov  5 04:44 rrdtool-1.3.4

I seem to be having trouble getting hobbit to use 1.2.28. <http://1.2.28.>;
 At first I just removed the 1.3.4 directory, hobbit configure reported that
it detected and was using rrdtool 1.2, but when it ran the logs filled with
errors about not finding 1.3.4 files.

I then restored 1.3.4 and tried using:

./configure --server --rrdinclude=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28/include
--rrdlib=/usr/local/rrdtool-1.2.28

However ./configure appears to ignore the extra commands and says it will
use 1.3.4 files:

"Checking for RRDtool ...
test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng
"

Can anyone advise how to properly remove RRDtool 1.3.4 or get hobbit to
configure using 1.2.28?

TIA!

Jeremy.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid <mailto:

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

   Apparently your rrdtool is quite new.  I'm running a very current
   snapshot and my rrd is only 1.2.12. <http://1.2.12.>;

   Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

       Thanks, I had no idea that page existed!

       FWIW, I am using RRDTool 1.3.4. <http://1.3.4.>; <http://1.3.4.>;
       After patching, now during hobbit ./configure I get this (which
       doesn't appear to present a problem at the time as it continues
       apparently ok):

       Checking for RRDtool ...
       test-rrd.c: In function âmainâ:
       test-rrd.c:30: error: too few arguments to function ârrd_graphâ
       make: *** [test-compile] Error 1
       Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x
       Found RRDtool include files in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/include
       Found RRDtool libraries in /usr/local/rrdtool-1.3.4/lib
       Linking RRD with PNG library: -L/usr/lib -lpng


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list T.J. Yang · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:27:01 -0600 ·

done.

1. 4.2.1 tar ball is here: http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/hobbit-4.2.1.tar.gz?view=tar

2. 4.2.1 Readme file.

http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/README.4.2.1?revision=5895&view=markup


tj

▸ quoted from Jon Boede



From: Jon Boede Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:35 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Re: RRDs created, never updated


Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the all in one patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on SourceForge??

Rich Smrcina wrote:   Jeremy, 
  See here (http://www.hobbitmon.com/patches/) for post 4.2.0 patches. 
  Jeremy Cappilero wrote: 
    No, I haven't patched at all.  I don't see any patches at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=128058. 
    Perhaps worth mentioning - the hist directory appears to have events generated at first run, but never thereafter (other than the "allevents" file). 
    [root at zzzz hist]# pwd     /usr/local/hobbit/data/hist     [root at zzzz hist]# ll     total 60     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 1180 Nov  6 04:22 allevents     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  780 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com <http://zzzz.yyyyyyyyy.com>;     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbd     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbgen     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.bbtest     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.conn     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.cpu     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.disk     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.files     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit  276 Nov  6 04:22 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.hobbitd     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:56 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.http     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.memory     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   87 Nov  5 09:02 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.msgs     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.ports     -rw-rw-r-- 1 hobbit hobbit   41 Nov  5 08:57 zzzz,yyyyyyyyy,com.procs

list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:31:29 -0600 ·

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I am installing rrdtool from source.  So no packages to easily uninstall.

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# updatedb
[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# locate rrdtool-devel
[no output]

Jeremy.

The Hobbit build seems to be remembering about the newer release.  Before you configure 
again run 'make distclean'.

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


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list Jeremy Cappilero · Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:42:32 -0800 ·

Rich you are quite the legend!

Indeed - I needed to "make distclean" before recompiling hobbit.

This has fixed the problem entirely.

So the end result of this thread, is that hobbit 4.2.1 is not compatible
with RRDTool V1.3.8 (likely 1.3.x).

Thank you to everyone who has helped and good luck in making hobbit
compatible with RRDTool 1.3 in the future.  In the meantime, perhaps an
fatal warning if configure detects rrdtool 1.3.x would suffice.

Warmly,

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


Jeremy


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I am installing rrdtool from source.  So no packages to easily uninstall.

[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# updatedb
[root at zzz hobbit-4.2.0]# locate rrdtool-devel
[no output]

Jeremy.

The Hobbit build seems to be remembering about the newer release.  Before
you configure again run 'make distclean'.


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list Rich Smrcina · Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:57:32 -0600 ·

Excellent!  I'm glad it all worked out.

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero


Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

Rich you are quite the legend!

Indeed - I needed to "make distclean" before recompiling hobbit.

This has fixed the problem entirely.

So the end result of this thread, is that hobbit 4.2.1 is not compatible with RRDTool V1.3.8 (likely 1.3.x).

Thank you to everyone who has helped and good luck in making hobbit compatible with RRDTool 1.3 in the future.  In the meantime, perhaps an fatal warning if configure detects rrdtool 1.3.x would suffice.

Warmly,

Jeremy

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list Stef Coene · Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:57:41 +0100 ·

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

On Thursday 06 November 2008, Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I am installing rrdtool from source.  So no packages to easily uninstall.

Just wondering, why?
As far as I know, all linux distrbutions have the correct rrdtool-devel 
packages in the repository.


Stef

list Buchan Milne · Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:11:22 +0200 ·

▸ quoted from Jeremy Cappilero

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 23:20:42 Jeremy Cappilero wrote:

I've been using BB/Hobbit with RRDtool for, I guess at least 5 years, maybe
more.  I've installed it successfully on maybe 10 servers.  Things
certainly got easier with Hobbit compared to BB!

I've just installed Hobbit on a Centos 5.2


I note that you could have installed Hobbit *really* easily:

http://staff.telkomsa.net/packages/rhel5/hobbit/

(has the allinone patch, and the BBWin patch, and the devmon patch).

Regards,
Buchan

list Buchan Milne · Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:12:34 +0200 ·

▸ quoted from Jon Boede

On Thursday 06 November 2008 00:35:48 Jon Boede wrote:

Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the all in one
patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on SourceForge??

The preceding question is, why is the devel list so quiet (which is where I 
was hoping to ask this question months ago).

Regards,
Buchan

list Christoph Berg · Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:55:15 +0100 ·

Re: Jeremy Cappilero 2008-11-06 <user-b1799ac14f0a@xymon.invalid>

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina

This has fixed the problem entirely.

So the end result of this thread, is that hobbit 4.2.1 is not compatible
with RRDTool V1.3.8 (likely 1.3.x).

Hi,

the compilation stuff set aside, I had noticed my rrds didn't update
too. The truth was that they *did* update, but the mtime of the files
doesn't change, though.

Later librrd versions apparently do some funky stuff with mmap() that
doesn't update the timestamps. The contents are still updated.

Christoph
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list Henrik Størner · Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:24:15 +0000 (UTC) ·

▸ quoted from Christoph Berg

In <user-6adf05408d04@xymon.invalid> Christoph Berg <user-92157dbc91bf@xymon.invalid> writes:

So the end result of this thread, is that hobbit 4.2.1 is not compatible
with RRDTool V1.3.8 (likely 1.3.x).

the compilation stuff set aside, I had noticed my rrds didn't update
too. The truth was that they *did* update, but the mtime of the files
doesn't change, though.

Later librrd versions apparently do some funky stuff with mmap() that
doesn't update the timestamps. The contents are still updated.


The missing timestamp update is a Linux kernel 2.6.x feature/bug.


Regards,
Henrik

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