bbtest yellow-mystery
list Carl Melgaard
Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active). If I check the DNS-check on the server I get this: " clear Mon Jul 12 09:56:38 2010 dns ok : Ping failed, or dialup host/service Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.004 " Even tho its disabled. Its been like this since the instance the server was disabled. How can I fix this? Regards, Carl Melgaard.
list Buchan Milne
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On Monday, 12 July 2010 09:13:26 Carl Melgaard wrote:
Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).
No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts. Regards, Buchan
list Bill Arlofski
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On 07/12/10 08:29, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Monday, 12 July 2010 09:13:26 Carl Melgaard wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts. Regards, Buchan
Hi Carl... You can check the "bbtest" page on yout Xymon server and take a
look at the "DNS Statistics" section to gain a little more insight to what
appears to be a dns resolution/timeout issue.
If you are indeed experiencing dns resolution issues as Buchan suggests, you
might consider doing what I do on my Xymon servers - I generally install
djbdns, a small, fast, caching name server on my Xymon servers which reduces
the load on the network's main dns server, and also significantly speeds up
the dns tests.
Not to argue with Buchan, but I'd generally recommend against using testip if
possible only because it will just cause more work down the road if/when a
server, or system has an IP address changed. (it happens)
Having said, that, I'd also say that using "testip" as a troubleshooting tool
can be helpful, but I would remove it once you have isolated and have solved
the real cause of your dns symptoms.
Hope this helps.
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Bill Arlofski
Reverse Polarity, LLC
list Carl Melgaard
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Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.
But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of:
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"Service dns on xxx07 is OK
Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test
Host appears to be down
Timeout
Seconds: 450.003"
when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here?
/melgaard
list Geoff Hallford
Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
list Carl Melgaard
Hi,
Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.
I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.
But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
list Geoff Hallford
Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the"alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you. I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
list Carl Melgaard
Hi,
Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.
Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow.
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/melgaard
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hi,
Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.
I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.
But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
list Josh Luthman
To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>
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wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid>
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wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
list Jim Smith
LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery
To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM
guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first
created...long ago.
You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC.
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaard
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list Josh Luthman
I didn't mean to be rude...I'm entirely serious. I don't know where to find the RTFM book (that's not my name for it...) but I'm on IRC all the time. Just mention my nick in the channel and I'd be happy to help as much as I can. I feel it is everyone's duty to at least spend a moment looking through the documentation pages before involving someone else.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:LOL! Funny, but kinda rude. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.
list TJ Yang
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:
LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.
Josh didn't mean to be rude. There was a book called "Hobbit RTFM" created using LaTeX by me. it is a book composed of Henrik's documentation(html,troff material etc) with Table of Contents and index. I showed him a while back. This is quite labor intensive even I only try to put the existing docs together. The book should be renamed to "Collection of Xymon Docs". so nobody will got offended. tj
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-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.Josh didn't mean to be rude. There was a book called "Hobbit RTFM" created using LaTeX by me. it is a book composed of Henrik's documentation(html,troff material etc) with Table of Contents and index. I showed him a while back. This is quite labor intensive even I only try to put the existing docs together. The book should be renamed to "Collection of Xymon Docs". so nobody will got offended. tj-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.-- T.J. Yang
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Are you prepared to share it?
Of course, but it is not ready for public consumption yet. The book quality is at stage of Alpha. (Alph, beta,Gold). Josh, do you have access to Fedora 1x machine at home/work ? if so, I can release the source to you so you can work on it :) tj
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Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.Josh didn't mean to be rude. There was a book called "Hobbit RTFM" created using LaTeX by me. it is a book composed of Henrik's documentation(html,troff material etc) with Table of Contents and index. I showed him a while back. This is quite labor intensive even I only try to put the existing docs together. The book should be renamed to "Collection of Xymon Docs". so nobody will got offended. tj-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.-- T.J. Yang
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:55 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:Are you prepared to share it?Of course, but it is not ready for public consumption yet. The book quality is at stage of Alpha. (Alph, beta,Gold). Josh, do you have access to Fedora 1x machine at home/work ? if so, I can release the source to you so you can work on it :) tjJosh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.Josh didn't mean to be rude. There was a book called "Hobbit RTFM" created using LaTeX by me. it is a book composed of Henrik's documentation(html,troff material etc) with Table of Contents and index. I showed him a while back. This is quite labor intensive even I only try to put the existing docs together. The book should be renamed to "Collection of Xymon Docs". so nobody will got offended. tj-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.-- T.J. Yang-- T.J. Yang
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<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:It would take all of 10 minutes to install one on a Virtual Machine!
Also, this documentation project is not approved by xymon community. Me and my other co-worker are the only end-users of this doc. When ideatorrent is back online, I will re-submit this documentation idea(using latex) to ideatorrent. From there, we can see other alternative solutions from other people. This will my last post on this email thread, sorry this should have gone to developer or with other subject in xymon user M.L.
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tjJosh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:55 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:Are you prepared to share it?Of course, but it is not ready for public consumption yet. The book quality is at stage of Alpha. (Alph, beta,Gold). Josh, do you have access to Fedora 1x machine at home/work ? if so, I can release the source to you so you can work on it :) tjJosh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Smith, Jim <user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid> wrote:LOL! Funny, but kinda rude.Josh didn't mean to be rude. There was a book called "Hobbit RTFM" created using LaTeX by me. it is a book composed of Henrik's documentation(html,troff material etc) with Table of Contents and index. I showed him a while back. This is quite labor intensive even I only try to put the existing docs together. The book should be renamed to "Collection of Xymon Docs". so nobody will got offended. tj-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:50 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [xymon] bbtest yellow-mystery To my knowledge the best thing that relates to this is T.J.'s RTFM guide. I browsed through it when the IRC channel was first created...long ago. You can always ask logical questions after searching the docs in IRC. Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Yes, that is only for disabling alerting to create a maintenance window. It doesn't stop the checks from occurring. Thanks.Great, I feel like a beginner now. Is there any day-to-day operations-manual in the Xymon-documentation/wiki somewhere? I think I've missed the basic Xymon operation-guidelines somehow. /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi,Have you disabled alerting for that host or commented it out in your bb-hosts? The way to disable a "check" for a host is to remove the check or comment out the host in the bb-hosts. If you have just disabled the "alerting", then it will continue to do the "check", just not alert you.I've used the Enable/Disable-options in he Administration-part of Xymon, to disable the tests (the hobbit-enadis.sh-script) - is that just alert-disabling? /melgaard On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled? It looks like its that exact dns-check that takes 450 seconds to run (timeout). Looking at the DNS-statistics: DNS tests executed 4602546.200466 450.096498 which is the normal checks + the 450 second timeout. All other dns-checks run fine. Shouldnt I except something like this (from the conn checks): "System unreachable for 764 poll periods (363317 seconds)" instead of: "Service dns on xxx07 is OK Dialup host/service, or test depends on another failed test Host appears to be down Timeout Seconds: 450.003" when I've disabled all the checks on the host, and the server is powered down? Or am I missing something here? /melgaardThe information contained in this message is privileged and confidential information intended for the review and use of the individual and entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us.-- T.J. Yang-- T.J. Yang
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In <user-9ad4bea555da@xymon.invalid> Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> writes:
But why is the check still running against the AD-host I've disabled?
"Disable" is kind of a misnomer, because as You found out it doesn't stop Xymon from running the test - it only means that it won't bother with sending out the alerts. The main reason for this is that without running the test, Xymon couldn't implement the "Disable until OK" feature (which I find is really handy). A second reason is that programming-wise it is actually a lot easier to just run all the tests. Regards, Henrik
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On 07/12/2010 08:29 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:On Monday, 12 July 2010 09:13:26 Carl Melgaard wrote:Hi, One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).No, it indicates that the Xymon server is taking a long time to resolve host names to IP addresses. You may need to configure the DNS client settings on the Xymon server (e.g. adjust the 'server' parameters in /etc/resolv.conf). If you have most IP addresses hardcoded correctly in bb-hosts, you may want to add the 'testip' flag to the relevant lines of bb-hosts.
I normally run into this I believe when I have a server that is down or that is no longer in the DNS. No longer in the DNS makes sense, but I'd expect it to fail immediately. Anyhow, I'd look to see if a host you no longer have is in the configuration still. - -- - ---- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkw8fHAACgkQmb+gadEcsb7anQCfdXVbBsfjkhyOkyi2ql2/nV4b 6EMAniXO0Wxw5qI6dfEVJFiPQwzpHdxB =/Ctc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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One of our AD-servers went down for maintenance for 1 week, and I disabled the conn+dns tests in Xymon for that period. Now the "bbtest" column suddenly goes yellow, and indicates that DNS lookups takes 450+ seconds now (indicating that the DNS-check for the maintenanced server is still active).
I normally run into this I believe when I have a server that is down or that is no longer in the DNS. No longer in the DNS makes sense, but I'd expect it to fail immediately. Anyhow, I'd look to see if a host you no longer have is in the configuration still.
Is there any easy way to troubleshoot this? /melgaard