Phantom red statuses (Fwd: Xymon [750466] mgmtconsole:msgs CRITICAL (RED))
list Greg Earle
I'm running Xymon 4.3.12-2 server (yeah, I know ...) on my management system. (RHEL 6.5 currently) A couple of days ago I migrated our central syslog server over to the Xymon server, so now "/var/log/messages" is getting a ton of stuff in it that it never had before since all my systems are now reporting in to it. Ever since then I've seen something weird - every hour (for about 17+ hours) I was getting RED alerts for the management console's own "msgs" status, but the actual e-mail notifications don't show anything marked red in them! It's either yellow or, as in the forwarded message below, green. I have no idea why I was getting RED alerts for this file if it thinks it's yellow or green - any ideas? The only other thing I can add is that when I go to the Web page for mgmtconsole:msgs, it says "WARNING: Flapping status" at the top. Is that a clue? (Update: interestingly, it looks like the status has finally changed to green a few minutes ago - after having been red for nearly 17 1/2 hours. Still seeing "WARNING: Flapping status" on the svcstatus Web page, though.) Thanks, - Greg
Begin forwarded message: From: xymon Monitor <user-c84c5ca2f00e@xymon.invalid> Subject: Xymon [750466] mgmtconsole:msgs CRITICAL (RED) Date: February 11, 2016 at 11:57:25 AM PST To: user-9179ff85409c@xymon.invalid green Thu Feb 11 11:57:24 PST 2016 - Log files ok <pre> </pre> No entries in <a href="/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?CLIENT=mgmtconsole&SECTION=msgs:/var/log/messages">/var/log/messages</a> Full log <a href="/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?CLIENT=mgmtconsole&SECTION=msgs:/var/log/messages">/var/log/messages</a> <...SKIPPED...> Feb 11 11:57:17 host7 nrpe[20194]: [ID 927837 daemon.info] connect from mtfuji [... rest elided ... ] See http://mgmtconsole/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?HOST=mgmtconsole&SERVICE=msgs
list Japheth Cleaver
Hi Greg, The flapping warning is what tips it off. Flap-detection in xymond functions by looking at alternating alert states (eg, red/green) happening within a certain period and "pegging" it at the higher status while it's going back and forth. This prevents spurious recovery messages and untimely pager death. The thing is, though, for a normal functioning 'msgs' test it's almost impossible for it to actually flap out of the box. The logfetch program which controls the raw data sent to xymond_client for evaluation actually walks back 6 "periods" (run cycles) in the log file and sends all subsequent data up to xymond. This helps with mitigating any lost messages by turning the 'msgs' test into a "Recent Errors in the Log" test instead of a direct reflection of the event, since xymon is a state-based monitoring system rather than a single-fire-and-forget (trap) based system. Out of the box, a single red event will cause the msgs test to remain red for a solid 30m -- far too long for flapping to get triggered in most cases. Is there any chance you have multiple servers reporting in with the name 'mgmtconsole'? Especially if you're not using FQDN (which it doesn't seem like you are), that seems like something that might cause this: Two different servers with the same name, each sending their own red/green states every few minutes. HTH, -jc
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On Thu, February 11, 2016 2:15 pm, Greg Earle wrote:I'm running Xymon 4.3.12-2 server (yeah, I know ...) on my management system. (RHEL 6.5 currently) A couple of days ago I migrated our central syslog server over to the Xymon server, so now "/var/log/messages" is getting a ton of stuff in it that it never had before since all my systems are now reporting in to it. Ever since then I've seen something weird - every hour (for about 17+ hours) I was getting RED alerts for the management console's own "msgs" status, but the actual e-mail notifications don't show anything marked red in them! It's either yellow or, as in the forwarded message below, green. I have no idea why I was getting RED alerts for this file if it thinks it's yellow or green - any ideas? The only other thing I can add is that when I go to the Web page for mgmtconsole:msgs, it says "WARNING: Flapping status" at the top. Is that a clue? (Update: interestingly, it looks like the status has finally changed to green a few minutes ago - after having been red for nearly 17 1/2 hours. Still seeing "WARNING: Flapping status" on the svcstatus Web page, though.) Thanks, - GregBegin forwarded message: From: xymon Monitor <user-c84c5ca2f00e@xymon.invalid> Subject: Xymon [750466] mgmtconsole:msgs CRITICAL (RED) Date: February 11, 2016 at 11:57:25 AM PST To: user-9179ff85409c@xymon.invalid green Thu Feb 11 11:57:24 PST 2016 - Log files ok <pre> </pre> No entries in <a href="/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?CLIENT=mgmtconsole&SECTION=msgs:/var/log/messages">/var/log/messages</a> Full log <a href="/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?CLIENT=mgmtconsole&SECTION=msgs:/var/log/messages">/var/log/messages</a> <...SKIPPED...> Feb 11 11:57:17 host7 nrpe[20194]: [ID 927837 daemon.info] connect from mtfuji [... rest elided ... ] See http://mgmtconsole/xymon-cgi/svcstatus.sh?HOST=mgmtconsole&SERVICE=msgs
list Ryan Novosielski
Yes, flapping status is a sort
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On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Greg Earle <user-8f45ae7a27f3@xymon.invalid> wrote: I'm running Xymon 4.3.12-2 server (yeah, I know ...) on my management system. (RHEL 6.5 currently) A couple of days ago I migrated our central syslog server over to the Xymon server, so now "/var/log/messages" is getting a ton of stuff in it that it never had before since all my systems are now reporting in to it. Ever since then I've seen something weird - every hour (for about 17+ hours) I was getting RED alerts for the management console's own "msgs" status, but the actual e-mail notifications don't show anything marked red in them! It's either yellow or, as in the forwarded message below, green. I have no idea why I was getting RED alerts for this file if it thinks it's yellow or green - any ideas? The only other thing I can add is that when I go to the Web page for mgmtconsole:msgs, it says "WARNING: Flapping status" at the top. Is that a clue? (Update: interestingly, it looks like the status has finally changed to green a few minutes ago - after having been red for nearly 17 1/2 hours. Still seeing "WARNING: Flapping status" on the svcstatus Web page, though.)
Yes, flapping status is essentially “pegged at red due to too many status changes.”
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list Greg Earle
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On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:00 AM, xymon-request at xymon.com wrote: Is there any chance you have multiple servers reporting in with the name 'mgmtconsole'? Especially if you're not using FQDN (which it doesn't seem like you are), that seems like something that might cause this: Two different servers with the same name, each sending their own red/green states every few minutes.
Thanks JC. Interesting theory: you see, the old syslog server was on a separate machine and it never had this Flapping status issue, despite it getting all of the same syslog messages. "mgmtconsole" is my Xymon server so I thought "Oh maybe because it's acting as both server and client that's what's screwing it up", but before this I never got any anomalous alerts from "mgmtconsole" itself, just the expected reds/yellows from any (ab)normal condition that triggered them. So no, there aren't two different servers (and yes, I don't use FQHN's). The perma-red state is back, btw. So, given that the old syslog server wasn't in perma-red/Flapping state, why would the new syslog/Xymon combo server be in it? Also, given that the actual contents of "/var/log/messages" aren't causing red alerts, is the red alert state caused solely by it flapping between yellow and green? (I still don't get why the old machine wasn't in a similar perma-red/Flapping state.) Where should I look to try and cure this? Thanks, - Greg
list Japheth Cleaver
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On Fri, February 12, 2016 3:20 pm, Greg Earle wrote:
On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:00 AM, xymon-request at xymon.com wrote: Is there any chance you have multiple servers reporting in with the name 'mgmtconsole'? Especially if you're not using FQDN (which it doesn't seem like you are), that seems like something that might cause this: Two different servers with the same name, each sending their own red/green states every few minutes.Thanks JC. Interesting theory: you see, the old syslog server was on a separate machine and it never had this Flapping status issue, despite it getting all of the same syslog messages. "mgmtconsole" is my Xymon server so I thought "Oh maybe because it's acting as both server and client that's what's screwing it up", but before this I never got any anomalous alerts from "mgmtconsole" itself, just the expected reds/yellows from any (ab)normal condition that triggered them. So no, there aren't two different servers (and yes, I don't use FQHN's). The perma-red state is back, btw. So, given that the old syslog server wasn't in perma-red/Flapping state, why would the new syslog/Xymon combo server be in it? Also, given that the actual contents of "/var/log/messages" aren't causing red alerts, is the red alert state caused solely by it flapping between yellow and green? (I still don't get why the old machine wasn't in a similar perma-red/Flapping state.) Where should I look to try and cure this?
Hmm. The first step will be to track down what status messages xymond is receiving, precisely. Something like the following: xymoncmd xymond_channel --channel=status xymond_capture --hosts=mgmtconsole --tests=msgs (or xymoncmd xymond_channel --channel=status --filter='|msgs|' cat > /tmp/foo, etc...) should spit out each incoming 'msgs' status message for the host. By default, I believe it would need to be changing colors 3x within 300s to be triggered. Once you have that, compare the various colors coming in to try to find a distinguishing pattern. This still seems like something most likely caused by varying client sources being falsely reported as the same host, so keep an eye on the IPs and so forth. Additionally, check this server itself for anything that might cause duplication... More than one copy of runclient.sh and/or xymonlaunch executing, or perhaps permissions/updating/corruption problems on the logfetch ".status" file it's saving in $XYMONTMP. Finally, check the raw client data message as well for anything unusual around the [msgs:/some/path/here] sections. It's unlikely, but possible there's a parsing bug around there that might be confusing xymond_client into generating multiple or erroneous 'msgs' test entries. HTH, -jc