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list Usa Ims · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC) ·
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts for monitoring.
I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use 'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.
But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not exposed on the Internet.
Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.
If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on how this might work?
Thanks in advance.
list Josh Luthman · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:02:44 -0400 ·
DevMon is used for SNMP.


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Subject: Is SNMP a solution
quoted from Usa Ims
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts
for monitoring.

I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use
'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that
is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.

But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not
exposed on the Internet.

Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.

If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on
how this might work?

Thanks in advance.

list Usa Ims · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:07:42 +0000 (UTC) ·
Thanks but I need somebody to briefly explain this?
quoted from Josh Luthman
 

    On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 

 DevMon is used for SNMP.

Josh Luthman
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Subject: Is SNMP a solution
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts for monitoring.
I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use 'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.
But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not exposed on the Internet.
Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.
If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on how this might work?
Thanks in advance.
list Josh Luthman · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:12:47 -0400 ·
http://devmon.sourceforge.net/ is the project

Are you familiar with SNMP?
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quoted from Usa Ims
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:07 PM, usa ims <user-42bb6445007b@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Thanks but I need somebody to briefly explain this?


On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman <
user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:


DevMon is used for SNMP.


Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Subject: Is SNMP a solution
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts
for monitoring.

I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use
'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that
is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.

But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not
exposed on the Internet.

Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.

If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on
how this might work?

Thanks in advance.

list Ryan Novosielski · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:14:10 +0000 ·
http://devmon.sourceforge.net
quoted from Usa Ims
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Thanks but I need somebody to briefly explain this?


On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:


DevMon is used for SNMP.


Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Subject: Is SNMP a solution
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts for monitoring.

I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use 'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.

But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not exposed on the Internet.

Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.

If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on how this might work?

Thanks in advance.

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list Usa Ims · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) ·
Thank you -- yes, I've dabbled with SNMP.
quoted from Josh Luthman
 

    On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:13 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 

 http://devmon.sourceforge.net/ is the project
Are you familiar with SNMP?

Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:07 PM, usa ims <user-42bb6445007b@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Thanks but I need somebody to briefly explain this?
 

    On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 

 DevMon is used for SNMP.

Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Is SNMP a solution
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts for monitoring.
I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use 'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that is exposed on the internet, it has an IP of 192.169.100.50.
But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not exposed on the Internet.
Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.
If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on how this might work?
Thanks in advance.
list Bruce Ferrell · Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:37:48 -0700 ·
If i understand you correctly, there is no direct path between the sister server, on .51, and your monitor station.  That would seem, on the surface, to make use of SNMP and the
devmon add in for xymon very difficult.

The simplest solutions that occurs to me would be to do port forwarding via ssh client configuration and /etc/hosts name resolution to create an ssh tunnel to the sister server.
I'm assuming you ARE using the ssh method and have at lest part of the ssh client configuration done.

Because xymon-rclient would run as the xymon user the ssh configuration might look something like this:

~xymon/.ssh/config:

host 192.169.100.50
       user xymon
       IdentityFile ~xymon/.ssh/id_rsa_50
       
host 192.169.100.51
       user xymon2
       IdentityFile ~xymon/.ssh/id_rsa_51
       LocalForward 127.0.0.1:1985:192.169.100.51:1984

The above configuration MAY need (probably will) adjustment and experimentation to get xymon-rclient connecting to the sister server.
quoted from Usa Ims


On 06/15/2016 12:56 PM, usa ims via Xymon wrote:
I have a xymon server located out in the Internet that uses custom scripts for monitoring.

I monitor this one server which is NATed behind a firewall. I use 'xymon-rclient.sh' script to fetch the data. This server is only one that is exposed on the internet, it has an IP
of 192.169.100.50.

But I want to monitor it's sister server '192.168.100.51' which is not exposed on the Internet.

Somebody said to me that SNMP might be a solution.

If that is a solution, can somebody give me a high level explanation on how this might work?

Thanks in advance.

list Adam Goryachev · Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:41:17 +1000 ·
quoted from Bruce Ferrell
On 16/06/16 11:37, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
If i understand you correctly, there is no direct path between the sister server, on .51, and your monitor station.  That would seem, on the surface, to make use of SNMP and the
devmon add in for xymon very difficult.
Personally, I'd add a custom ext to the server you DO have access to, 
which will ping/test connectivity to your second server, and then report 
the results back along with the rest of the results.

Or, did you want to run a client on the second machine?

Regards,
Adam

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list Usa Ims · Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) ·
It would be nice to use 'xymon-rclient.sh' on the '192.168.1.51' node which is not exposed on the Internet. I wanted 'xymon-rclient.sh' to monitor log files and alert if there is a problem.
But I just found out that I can't even use ssh scripts because of compliance. Would SNMP be a good solution if I can't use ssh scripts?
quoted from Adam Goryachev
 

    On Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:23 AM, Adam Goryachev <user-eaec2ffb4cbc@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 

 On 16/06/16 11:37, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
If i understand you correctly, there is no direct path between the sister server, on .51, and your monitor station.  That would seem, on the surface, to make use of SNMP and the
devmon add in for xymon very difficult.
Personally, I'd add a custom ext to the server you DO have access to, 
which will ping/test connectivity to your second server, and then report 
the results back along with the rest of the results.

Or, did you want to run a client on the second machine?

Regards,
Adam

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list Jeremy Laidman · Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:28:24 +0000 ·
I don't think SNMP can be used to monitor log files. At least I can't think
of a way to do ir without using a script.

If you can SSH from another server that can run the xymon client, then you
could setup a reverse tunnel for syslog-over-tcp, and then your task
becomes monitoring the logs on the other server.
quoted from Usa Ims


On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, 03:27 usa ims via Xymon <xymon at xymon.com> wrote:
It would be nice to use 'xymon-rclient.sh' on the '192.168.1.51' node
which is not exposed on the Internet. I wanted 'xymon-rclient.sh' to
monitor log files and alert if there is a problem.

But I just found out that I can't even use ssh scripts because of
compliance. Would SNMP be a good solution if I can't use ssh scripts?


On Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:23 AM, Adam Goryachev <
user-eaec2ffb4cbc@xymon.invalid> wrote:


On 16/06/16 11:37, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
If i understand you correctly, there is no direct path between the
sister server, on .51, and your monitor station.  That would seem, on the
surface, to make use of SNMP and the
devmon add in for xymon very difficult.
Personally, I'd add a custom ext to the server you DO have access to,
which will ping/test connectivity to your second server, and then report
the results back along with the rest of the results.

Or, did you want to run a client on the second machine?

Regards,
Adam

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list Glauber Ribeiro · Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:05:06 +0000 ·
I thought about using SNMP – the first thing I learned was that “Simple” is a misnomer. It’s anything but simple.

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I don't think SNMP can be used to monitor log files. At least I can't think of a way to do ir without using a script.

If you can SSH from another server that can run the xymon client, then you could setup a reverse tunnel for syslog-over-tcp, and then your task becomes monitoring the logs on the other server.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, 03:27 usa ims via Xymon <xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>> wrote:
It would be nice to use 'xymon-rclient.sh' on the '192.168.1.51' node which is not exposed on the Internet. I wanted 'xymon-rclient.sh' to monitor log files and alert if there is a problem.

But I just found out that I can't even use ssh scripts because of compliance. Would SNMP be a good solution if I can't use ssh scripts?

On Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:23 AM, Adam Goryachev <user-eaec2ffb4cbc@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-eaec2ffb4cbc@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

On 16/06/16 11:37, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
If i understand you correctly, there is no direct path between the sister server, on .51, and your monitor station.  That would seem, on the surface, to make use of SNMP and the
devmon add in for xymon very difficult.
Personally, I'd add a custom ext to the server you DO have access to,
which will ping/test connectivity to your second server, and then report
the results back along with the rest of the results.

Or, did you want to run a client on the second machine?

Regards,
Adam

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