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list Josh Luthman · Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:57:50 -0400 ·
What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one being
our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one
that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by
the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it
as such:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Tod Hansmann · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:22:04 -0700 ·
So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

 
This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0"

BBDISPLAYS="127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

 
The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

 
This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

 
Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not
be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt
to include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I
might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS
just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a
status message.  Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened
appropriately on any firewalls.

 
Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

 
Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer

 
  <http://www.directpointe.com/>;  
quoted from Josh Luthman


From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 
What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the
customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
quoted from Josh Luthman
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to 

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:04:09 -0500 ·
Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems like
this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this
true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh
quoted from Tod Hansmann

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0"

BBDISPLAYS="127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one being
our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one
that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it
as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Greg L Hubbard · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:24:54 -0600 ·
Do you have the same bb-hosts on each server?  You might check the
ghosts report.
quoted from Josh Luthman


	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
	
	
	Tod,
	
	I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have
any information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is
"connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).
	
	Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this
it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem
required - is this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list
of hosts on both bbdisplays? 
	
	Josh
	
	
	On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

		So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display
their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main
display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar
to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in
context.

		 
		This is the testers:

		BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

		BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>;
quoted from Josh Luthman
ip.of.main.display"

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="poller1"

		 
		The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point
out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both
configs here.

		 
		This is the main display:

		BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

		BBDISPLAYS=""

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="display"

		 
		Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all
the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2
polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get
working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your original config is
the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm
pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in
that list when it has a status message.  Also note that port 1984 will
have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

		 
		Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some
of it helps.

		 
		Tod Hansmann

		Network Engineer

		 
		 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

		
		From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
		Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
		To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
		Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

		 
		What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.
The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and
things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings
APs, Switches, etc.
		
		I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:
		
		page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
		group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
		1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 
		
		group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
		2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 
		
		Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs,
accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those
of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)
		
		I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
		
		BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
		BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
		
		I have also tried it without quotes
		
		When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the
www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to 
		
		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single
hobbit/bbd server
		BBDISPLAYS=""
		
		It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but
the main one is display blank (obviously =)
		
		Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in
advance!
		
		Josh
		
		-- 
		Josh Luthman
		Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
		Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
		XXXX Wayne St
		Suite XXXX
		Troy, OH XXXXX
		
		Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to
reinvent it, poorly.
		--- Henry Spencer 


	-- 
	Josh Luthman
	Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	XXXX Wayne St
	Suite XXXX
	Troy, OH XXXXX
	
	Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly. 
	--- Henry Spencer
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:36:13 -0500 ·
Note to all people:

With BBLOCATION="display" set on the main display it caused all my hosts
(which did not have Net:display) to go purple.  Lots and lots of purple.  If
you set BBLOCATION and do not have Net:whatever set on your hosts they do
not get polled, making them go purple after a while.

Josh
quoted from Josh Luthman

On 11/5/07, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is
this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Tod Hansmann · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:50:40 -0700 ·
We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

 
Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

 
Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages
from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but
do you have any errors in the bb-display log? 
quoted from Josh Luthman

 
Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer

 
  <http://www.directpointe.com/>;  


From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 
Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is
"connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required -
is this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on
both bbdisplays? 

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

 
This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>;  ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

 
The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

 
This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

 
Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not
be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt
to include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I
might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS
just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a
status message.  Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened
appropriately on any firewalls.

 
Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

 
Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer

 
 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   


From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 
What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the
customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to 

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer 


-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. 
--- Henry Spencer
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:58:08 -0500 ·
On the main box there is only one Ghost report of which has been there a
while, a client machine I renamed a while back.

page HIDM Holiday Inn
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
10.59.1.18      room243.hello.com # testip noconn Net:hidmpoll

group-compress <H3><I>HIHELO Hardware</I></H3>
10.59.1.234     printstation.hihello.com # testip noconn Net:hidmpoll

Now on the box at the hotel it looks identical with the exception of the
"page" line.

Josh
quoted from Tod Hansmann


On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Do you have the same bb-hosts on each server?  You might check the ghosts
report.

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is
this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

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list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:22:24 -0500 ·
I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to
change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit server
that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(
quoted from Josh Luthman

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.


Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo


Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen won't
generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via bb-hosts.
Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from one server
to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you have any
errors in the bb-display log?


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is
this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and
also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an aggregate
of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I
hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one being
our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one
that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it
as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

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Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

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-- 
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Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
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Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Tom Kauffman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:40:35 -0500 ·
I beat on this a while Friday and got nowhere - and then I decided I was
trying to fix the wrong spot. 

 
Since AIX seems to be the only OS that includes decimal fractions in the
vmstat output, I fixed the hobbitclient-aix.sh script. The attached
patch makes two changes.

 
1) reduce the vmstat count to 1; AIX 5.3 (and 5.2, I think) no longer
dump an immediate overview and then an accumulation for the time
specified. Vmstat provides the two values requested at the time delay
specified, so vmstat 300 2 gives two five-minute accumulations for a
total of ten minutes of run time.

 
2) use sed to copy the vmstat temporary output to the final output,
stripping all periods out as it goes.

 
The graph definitions need to be updated to do a divide by 10 for cpu_ec
and a divide by 100 for cpu_pc to offset the default multiplication that
occurs by stripping the decimal.

 
(I *think* I got the syntax correct for making the patch - never done it
before).

 
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list Greg L Hubbard · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:13:19 -0600 ·
Ah.  You have a couple of options.
 
a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer
clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as
in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.
 
b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer
location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single
dot that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked
to the Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have to
keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote
locations.
 
And you can mix and match these methods.
 
GLH
quoted from Josh Luthman


	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
	
	
	I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't
going to change and the hosts are not identical.
	
	Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main
Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW
servers and things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The
first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little world and
ping the access points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to
duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on
our company Hobbit. 
	
	The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of
their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently,
but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.
	
	Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =( 
	
	Josh
	
	
	On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

		We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime
changes are made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

		 
		Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not
using Net:foo

		 
		Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?
The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know
about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status
messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws
here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log? 

		 
		Tod Hansmann

		Network Engineer

		 
		 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

		
		From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
		Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
		To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
		Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

		 
		Tod,
		
		I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages
have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is
"connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).
		
		Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know
about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it
doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way of
getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays? 
		
		Josh

		On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

		So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display
their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main
display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar
to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in
context.

		 
		This is the testers:

		BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

		BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>;
ip.of.main.display"

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="poller1"

		 
		The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point
out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both
configs here.

		 
		This is the main display:

		BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

		BBDISPLAYS=""

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="display"

		 
		Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all
the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2
polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get
working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your original config is
the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm
pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in
that list when it has a status message.  Also note that port 1984 will
have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

		 
		Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some
of it helps.

		 
		Tod Hansmann

		Network Engineer

		 
		 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

		
		From: Josh Luthman [mailto: user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]

		Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
		To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
		Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

		 
		What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.
The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and
things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings
APs, Switches, etc.
		
		I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:
		
		page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
		group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
		1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 
		
		group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
		2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 
		
		Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs,
accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those
of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)
		
		I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
		
		BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
		BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
		
		I have also tried it without quotes
		
		When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the
www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to 
		
		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single
hobbit/bbd server
		BBDISPLAYS=""
		
		It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but
the main one is display blank (obviously =)
		
		Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in
advance!
		
		Josh
		
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		Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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reinvent it, poorly.
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list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:35:42 -0500 ·
Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is
easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host.  The
links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need to
be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge or
www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine it is simply
adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the
hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?
quoted from Greg L Hubbard

Josh


On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Ah.  You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer clients
must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the
bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer location
send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single dot that shows
the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked to the Hobbit page
on the remote server.  This way you don't have to keep updating your central
server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to
change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit
server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.


Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo


Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from
one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you
have any errors in the bb-display log?


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is
this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

--
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Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

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Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

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--- Henry Spencer

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Greg L Hubbard · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:44:08 -0600 ·
look in the docs for "summary"
quoted from Josh Luthman


	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
	
	
	Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for
whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.
	
	I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote
host.  The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or
hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this one server. 
	
	This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what
the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine
it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include
bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.
	
	Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?
	
	Josh
	
	
	On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> > wrote: 

		Ah.  You have a couple of options.
		 
		a) configure each client (at a customer location) to
send to the local server as well as the main server.  This means that
your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main
server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer
location.
		 
		b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the
customer location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a
single dot that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is
linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have
to keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote
locations.
		 
		And you can mix and match these methods.
		 
		GLH


			From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
			Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
			To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
			
			Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration
			

			I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I
need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not identical.
			
			Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.
We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home
routers, WWW servers and things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's
LAN.  The first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little
world and ping the access points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck,
is to duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the
bbdisplay on our company Hobbit. 
			
			The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs
and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it
has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.
			
			Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own
situations =( 
			
			Josh
			
			
			On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

				We just scp the hostlist from one to the
others anytime changes are made.  You could probably do this in a
cron-job as well.

				 
				Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You
shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

				 
				Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts
file from both?  The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it
doesn't know about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is
getting the status messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm
picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display
log? 

				 
				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 
				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

				
				From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
				Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
				To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
				Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration

				 
				Tod,
				
				I've configured it that way and neither
of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do
know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with
nmap).
				
				Any other ideas out there?  From what
little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra
step, it doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way
of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays? 
				
				Josh

				On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

				So, we have two servers doing tests, and
they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.
So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to
be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of
this info in context.

				 
				This is the testers:

				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
quoted from Josh Luthman

				BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1
<http://127.0.0.1>;  ip.of.main.display"

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="poller1"

				 
				The BBLOCATION is important to the
setup.  I'll point out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the
same in both configs here.

				 
				This is the main display:

				BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

				BBDISPLAYS=""

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="display"

				 
				Now in the bb-hosts file, I have
Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all
the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're
trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your
original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and
no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it
to everything in that list when it has a status message.  Also note that
port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

				 
				Way more info than you probably need,
but I do hope some of it helps.

				 
				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 
				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

				
				From: Josh Luthman [mailto:
user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
				Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58
PM
				To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
				Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration

				 
				What I am trying to do is have two
BBDisplay servers.  The first one being our main one - monitors our
network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the
customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.
				
				I have setup this in bb-hosts on the
main one:
				
				page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
				group-compress <H3><I>Access
Points</I></H3>
				1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 
				
				group-compress <H3><I>HIDM
Hardware</I></H3>
				2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 
				
				Reason for the noconn is that these are
all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These
configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception
of noconn, of course =)
				
				I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
				
				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
				BBDISPLAYS="
10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
				
				I have also tried it without quotes
				
				When I set this neither BBDisplay has
anything on the www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it
to 
				
				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of
a single hobbit/bbd server
				BBDISPLAYS=""
				
				It works perfectly fine on the
customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)
				
				Please let me know where I went wrong.
Thanks in advance!
				
				Josh
				
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				Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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			-- 
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			Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
			XXXX Wayne St
			Suite XXXX
			Troy, OH XXXXX
			
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reinvent it, poorly. 
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	-- 
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	Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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	Troy, OH XXXXX
	
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poorly. 
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list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:57:28 -0500 ·
If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I would add:

Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/

Correct?

What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not able to
access the web pages from outside the hotel network?

Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting it =)
quoted from Greg L Hubbard

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 look in the docs for "summary"

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is
easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host.
The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need
to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge
or www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine it is simply
adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the
hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh


On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Ah.  You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer clients
must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the
bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer
location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single dot
that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked to the
Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have to keep updating
your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going
to change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit
server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.


Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo


Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from
one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you
have any errors in the bb-display log?


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent: *Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it
seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required -
is this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts
poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may
not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt
to include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might
go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just
has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status
message.  Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on
any firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent: *Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible
only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the
customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and
changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages,
they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

--
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Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
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Troy, OH XXXXX

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--
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Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
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Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Greg L Hubbard · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:15:44 -0600 ·
That sounds about right.  I don't know of any alternative if you can't
drill into the remote server.  If it is not accessible, then you are
probably hosed in many ways.
quoted from Josh Luthman


	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:57 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
	
	
	If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I
would add:
	
	Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/ 
	
	Correct?
	
	What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not
able to access the web pages from outside the hotel network?
	
	Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting
it =) 
	
	
	On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

		look in the docs for "summary"


			From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
			Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM 
			
			To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
			Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration
			

			Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like
to go for whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my
preference.
			
			I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has
an SSLUG remote host.  The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it
so that if IPs or hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this
one server. 
			
			This would be perfect for my situation, though I
don't know what the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.
I would imagine it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though
it may include bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.
			
			Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site
setup like that?
			
			Josh
			
			
			On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <
user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> > wrote: 

				Ah.  You have a couple of options.
				 
				a) configure each client (at a customer
location) to send to the local server as well as the main server.  This
means that your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your
main server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer
location.
				 
				b) (might work) -- you can have the
Hobbit server at the customer location send up a summary to your main
server.  You will get a single dot that shows the overall status of that
customer.  The dot is linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server.
This way you don't have to keep updating your central server as hosts
come and go at remote locations.
				 
				And you can mix and match these methods.
				 
				GLH


				From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
				Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
				To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid 
				
				Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration
				

				I can't scp the entire host list, nor
would I need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not
identical.
				
				Let me tell you how the overall picture
looks.  We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone,
customers' home routers, WWW servers and things.  Now we're adding a
Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to get Hobbit running there
on its own little world and ping the access points.  Now the next step,
where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information that is sent from
bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit. 
				
				The hotel's list of hosts is limited -
their APs and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the
things it has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's
hosts.
				
				Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining
my own situations =( 
				
				Josh
				
				
				On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

				We just scp the hostlist from one to the
others anytime changes are made.  You could probably do this in a
cron-job as well.

				 
				Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You
shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

				 
				Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts
file from both?  The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it
doesn't know about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is
getting the status messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm
picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display
log? 

				 
				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 
				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

				
				From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
				Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
				To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
				Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration

				 
				Tod,
				
				I've configured it that way and neither
of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do
know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with
nmap).
				
				Any other ideas out there?  From what
little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra
step, it doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way
of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays? 
				
				Josh

				On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <
user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> > wrote:

				So, we have two servers doing tests, and
they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.
So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to
be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of
this info in context.

				 
				This is the testers:

				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "

				BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1
<http://127.0.0.1>;  ip.of.main.display"

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="poller1"

				 
				The BBLOCATION is important to the
setup.  I'll point out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the
same in both configs here.

				 
				This is the main display:

				BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

				BBDISPLAYS=""

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="display"

				 
				Now in the bb-hosts file, I have
Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all
the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're
trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your
original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and
no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it
to everything in that list when it has a status message.  Also note that
port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

				 
				Way more info than you probably need,
but I do hope some of it helps.

				 
				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 
				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>;   

				
				From: Josh Luthman [mailto:
user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
				Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58
PM
				To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
				Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration

				 
				What I am trying to do is have two
BBDisplay servers.  The first one being our main one - monitors our
network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the
customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.
				
				I have setup this in bb-hosts on the
main one:
				
				page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
				group-compress <H3><I>Access
Points</I></H3>
				1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 
				
				group-compress <H3><I>HIDM
Hardware</I></H3>
				2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 
				
				Reason for the noconn is that these are
all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These
configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception
of noconn, of course =)
				
				I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
				
				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>; "
				BBDISPLAYS="
10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
				
				I have also tried it without quotes
				
				When I set this neither BBDisplay has
anything on the www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it
to 
				
				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of
a single hobbit/bbd server
				BBDISPLAYS=""
				
				It works perfectly fine on the
customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)
				
				Please let me know where I went wrong.
Thanks in advance!
				
				Josh
				
				-- 
				Josh Luthman
				Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				XXXX Wayne St
				Suite XXXX
				Troy, OH XXXXX
				
				Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
				--- Henry Spencer 

				
				-- 
				Josh Luthman
				Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				XXXX Wayne St
				Suite XXXX
				Troy, OH XXXXX
				
				Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly. 
				--- Henry Spencer 


				-- 
				Josh Luthman
				Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
				XXXX Wayne St
				Suite XXXX
				Troy, OH XXXXX
				
				Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly. 
				--- Henry Spencer 


			-- 
			Josh Luthman
			Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
			Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
			XXXX Wayne St
			Suite XXXX
			Troy, OH XXXXX
			
			Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to
reinvent it, poorly. 
			--- Henry Spencer 


	-- 
	Josh Luthman
	Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	XXXX Wayne St
	Suite XXXX
	Troy, OH XXXXX
	
	Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly. 
	--- Henry Spencer
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:25:26 -0500 ·
I just tried this:

Going to the main hobbit server and adding the summary line:
summary holidayinn.All holidayinn.ip.1.2 http://holidayinn/hobbit/

When I did this the main server contacted the hotel server and the at the
bottom of bb.html on the hotel server had this summary.  Oops?

Next I put that same config with the reverse IP on the hotel server.  This
worked and voids my last question question above.

Thank you all for your help!  Thanks a ton!
quoted from Greg L Hubbard

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 That sounds about right.  I don't know of any alternative if you can't
drill into the remote server.  If it is not accessible, then you are
probably hosed in many ways.

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:57 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I would add:

Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/

Correct?

What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not able to
access the web pages from outside the hotel network?

Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting it =)

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 look in the docs for "summary"

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is
easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host.
The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need
to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the
tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine it is
simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation
in the hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh


On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Ah.  You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer clients
must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the
bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer
location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single dot
that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked to the
Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have to keep updating
your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

 I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't
going to change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit
server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.


Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using
Net:foo


Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from
one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you
have any errors in the bb-display log?


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent: *Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it
seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required -
is this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* < user-b6e28cb93fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own
tests, and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.


This is the testers:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"


The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.


This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

   ------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"


Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts
poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may
not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt
to include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might
go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS
just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status
message.  Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on
any firewalls.


Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it
helps.


*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer


<http://www.directpointe.com/>;

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent: *Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration


What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible
only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the
customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and
changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages,
they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one
is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!

Josh

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