Configuration explanation needed.
list Neil Franken
Hi Guys
I am pretty sure I know how to configure client monitoring from the
hobbit-client.cfg file. However could someone just tell me if I am right
or wrong. I will include a example and what I think it means
HOST=PRMSIIS01
LOAD 50 90 <-- If the CPU goes above 50% usage turn yellow 90% is
panic level. What about multicore CPU's here?
DISK C 80 90 <-- If disk c is above 80% capacity yellow if over 90%
panic.
If I have a default section will they get preference over the individual
settings?
Sorry for the basic questions just need to make sure I am 100% with the
program and since no one else can even use Linux here in my office I am
pretty much out there by myself.
Regards
Neil
list Martin Flemming
Hi ! the first rule match, so if you have special rules for a host or a group in the hobbit-client.cfg before the default entry, it will match .. https://it-hobbit/hobbit/help/manpages/man5/hobbit-clients.cfg.5.html RULES: APPLYING SETTINGS TO SELECTED HOSTS The entire file is evaluated from the top to bottom, and the first match found is used. So you should put the specific settings first, and the generic ones last. cheers, martin
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys I am pretty sure I know how to configure client monitoring from the hobbit-client.cfg file. However could someone just tell me if I am right or wrong. I will include a example and what I think it means HOST=PRMSIIS01 LOAD 50 90 <-- If the CPU goes above 50% usage turn yellow 90% is panic level. What about multicore CPU's here? DISK C 80 90 <-- If disk c is above 80% capacity yellow if over 90% panic. If I have a default section will they get preference over the individual settings? Sorry for the basic questions just need to make sure I am 100% with the program and since no one else can even use Linux here in my office I am pretty much out there by myself. Regards Neil
list Neil Franken
Thanks My default was first in the list. So I could not understand why certain things worked but others not. All is well not. Regards Neil
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-----Original Message----- From: Martin Flemming [mailto:user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid] Sent: 24 February 2009 09:42 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Configuration explanation needed. Hi ! the first rule match, so if you have special rules for a host or a group in the hobbit-client.cfg before the default entry, it will match .. https://it-hobbit/hobbit/help/manpages/man5/hobbit-clients.cfg.5.html RULES: APPLYING SETTINGS TO SELECTED HOSTS The entire file is evaluated from the top to bottom, and the first match found is used. So you should put the specific settings first, and the generic ones last. cheers, martin On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys I am pretty sure I know how to configure client monitoring from the hobbit-client.cfg file. However could someone just tell me if I am right or wrong. I will include a example and what I think it means HOST=PRMSIIS01 LOAD 50 90 <-- If the CPU goes above 50% usage turn yellow 90% is panic level. What about multicore CPU's here? DISK C 80 90 <-- If disk c is above 80% capacity yellow if over 90% panic. If I have a default section will they get preference over the individual settings? Sorry for the basic questions just need to make sure I am 100% with the program and since no one else can even use Linux here in my office I am pretty much out there by myself. Regards Neil
list Mark Hinkle
What about multicore CPU's here?
This may be a better question for the OS, not xymon. Xymon is only reporting what the server says for load/cpu usage (or for any other value for that matter). Based on your disk "C" reference, I am assuming you question pertains to windows. When I pull up the Task Manager on Windows, there is a "CPU Usage" monitor/graph/thingy that is reporting a single value regardless of the number of CPU's the machine has. It is my belief that this is the value being reported (although I am not involved in development of bbnt, etc.) For *nix, the "load" is not really a direct function of the number of cpu's, it is (if I recall correctly) a count of processes in the run queue. I don't know if "CPU Usage" under windows is the same thing or some type of aggregation/averaging, etc. Hope this helps. later. -- Mark L. Hinkle user-9816e24cee8c@xymon.invalid
list Thorsten Erdmann
Hi I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a problem when a host has been deinstalled. I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles (rrd and so on) keep there forever. Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and delete all data which are not longer needed? Thank you Thorsten Erdmann If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation.
list Greg L Hubbard
Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command? From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
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Hi
I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts
include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a
problem when a host has been deinstalled.
I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles
(rrd and so on) keep there forever.
Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and
delete all data which are not longer needed?
Thank you
Thorsten Erdmann
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No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very complicated. Such a cleanup utility would also be helpful if one edits the bbhosts by hand and forgets to drop a host he has deleted. I just started to write a shellscript which scans the rrd directory and tries to find the host in the bbhost files. But is complicated to follow all the includes. I thought bbhostgrep is the answer but it only can find a test, not a host. Any ideas Thorsten user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid 25.02.2009 16:01 Bitte antworten an user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid An user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Kopie Thema RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
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Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command?
From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
Hi
I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a problem when a host has been deinstalled.
I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles (rrd and so on) keep there forever.
Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and delete all data which are not longer needed?
Thank you
Thorsten Erdmann
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list Greg L Hubbard
It seems to me that the cleanest way is to figure out how to make your inventory system "know" when it is losing something. I agree that it is easier to write a system that has no memory of what it did in prior runs. If your inventory system can be queried, or if you have an intermediate file that can be searched, you might be able to run a "notification" script from the alert system that would fire on "purple" alarms. What the script could do is take the host name in the alarm and look for it in your inventory or other file -- if found, quit. If not found, then the "drop host" command. This is a kludge, and might cause other issues, but it is one way to keep your display cleaned up. Others may have much better ideas! GLH From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:50 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned
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datafiles
No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate
the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts
files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need
to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the
differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very
complicated.
Such a cleanup utility would also be helpful if one edits the
bbhosts by hand and forgets to drop a host he has deleted.
I just started to write a shellscript which scans the rrd
directory and tries to find the host in the bbhost files. But is
complicated to follow all the includes. I thought bbhostgrep is the
answer but it only can find a test, not a host.
Any ideas
Thorsten
user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid
25.02.2009 16:01
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Kopie
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RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command?
From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid
[mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
Hi
I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts
include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a
problem when a host has been deinstalled.
I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles
(rrd and so on) keep there forever.
Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and
delete all data which are not longer needed?
Thank you
Thorsten Erdmann
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I now made it with the bbshowhosts command. This command writes a complete bbhosts file. So I temporarely generate that complete file and then cycle through all the directories in the rrd directory and grep for each in that complete bbhosts file. If I not find a host there I drop it.
If there is a nicer solution please tell me.
#!/bin/sh
#
# find old files from components which are no longer in BB-HOSTS
#
. /etc/hobbit/hobbitserver.cfg
echo "BBRRDS: $BBRRDS"
$BBHOME/bin/bbhostshow /etc/hobbit/bb-hosts >hosts.tmp
for i in `ls $BBRRDS`
do
grep $i hosts.tmp >/dev/null
if [ "$?" -ne "0" ]
then
echo "$i found"
# drop the host $i here
fi
done
rm hosts.tmp
Thanks you for your hints.
Thorsten Erdmann
user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid 25.02.2009 17:12
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RE: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
It seems to me that the cleanest way is to figure out how to make your inventory system "know" when it is losing something. I agree that it is easier to write a system that has no memory of what it did in prior runs.
If your inventory system can be queried, or if you have an intermediate file that can be searched, you might be able to run a "notification" script from the alert system that would fire on "purple" alarms. What the script could do is take the host name in the alarm and look for it in your inventory or other file -- if found, quit. If not found, then the "drop host" command. This is a kludge, and might cause other issues, but it is one way to keep your display cleaned up.
Others may have much better ideas!
GLH
From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:50 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very complicated.
Such a cleanup utility would also be helpful if one edits the bbhosts by hand and forgets to drop a host he has deleted.
I just started to write a shellscript which scans the rrd directory and tries to find the host in the bbhost files. But is complicated to follow all the includes. I thought bbhostgrep is the answer but it only can find a test, not a host.
Any ideas
Thorsten
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RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command?
From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles
Hi
I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a problem when a host has been deinstalled.
I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles (rrd and so on) keep there forever.
Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and delete all data which are not longer needed?
Thank you
Thorsten Erdmann
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list Martin Flemming
Hi ! i use the very nice bbdataclean.pl script by Eric Schwimmer . :-) .. it is a long time ago as he send a mail on this list .. where is he .. ? :-( and the side was many month not availabe but now as i watch today again, it was online again ! http://nerdvana.org/eric/bbtools/ bbhostedit A CGI bb-hosts editor bblogmon A log monitor and alarm generator bbdataclean A tool to clean out old/invalid hosts from your hobbit data bbmsg.pm A pure-Perl module used to send messages to a display server hobbit icons A set of slightly less zany icons for the hobbit system maybe some nice tools/addons for the shire .. cheers, martin
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hubbard, Greg L wrote:
It seems to me that the cleanest way is to figure out how to make your inventory system "know" when it is losing something. I agree that it is easier to write a system that has no memory of what it did in prior runs. If your inventory system can be queried, or if you have an intermediate file that can be searched, you might be able to run a "notification" script from the alert system that would fire on "purple" alarms. What the script could do is take the host name in the alarm and look for it in your inventory or other file -- if found, quit. If not found, then the "drop host" command. This is a kludge, and might cause other issues, but it is one way to keep your display cleaned up. Others may have much better ideas! GLH From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:50 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very complicated. Such a cleanup utility would also be helpful if one edits the bbhosts by hand and forgets to drop a host he has deleted. I just started to write a shellscript which scans the rrd directory and tries to find the host in the bbhost files. But is complicated to follow all the includes. I thought bbhostgrep is the answer but it only can find a test, not a host. Any ideas Thorsten user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid 25.02.2009 16:01 Bitte antworten an user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid An user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Kopie Thema RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command? From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles Hi I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a problem when a host has been deinstalled. I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles (rrd and so on) keep there forever. Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and delete all data which are not longer needed? Thank you Thorsten Erdmann If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation.
list Galen Johnson
It'd be nice if these were available on Xymonton...
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-----Original Message----- From: Martin Flemming [mailto:user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:44 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles Hi ! i use the very nice bbdataclean.pl script by Eric Schwimmer . :-) .. it is a long time ago as he send a mail on this list .. where is he .. ? :-( and the side was many month not availabe but now as i watch today again, it was online again ! http://nerdvana.org/eric/bbtools/ bbhostedit A CGI bb-hosts editor bblogmon A log monitor and alarm generator bbdataclean A tool to clean out old/invalid hosts from your hobbit data bbmsg.pm A pure-Perl module used to send messages to a display server hobbit icons A set of slightly less zany icons for the hobbit system maybe some nice tools/addons for the shire .. cheers, martin On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hubbard, Greg L wrote:
It seems to me that the cleanest way is to figure out how to make your inventory system "know" when it is losing something. I agree that it is easier to write a system that has no memory of what it did in prior runs. If your inventory system can be queried, or if you have an intermediate file that can be searched, you might be able to run a "notification" script from the alert system that would fire on "purple" alarms. What the script could do is take the host name in the alarm and look for it in your inventory or other file -- if found, quit. If not found, then the "drop host" command. This is a kludge, and might cause other issues, but it is one way to keep your display cleaned up. Others may have much better ideas! GLH From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:50 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Antwort: RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very complicated. Such a cleanup utility would also be helpful if one edits the bbhosts by hand and forgets to drop a host he has deleted. I just started to write a shellscript which scans the rrd directory and tries to find the host in the bbhost files. But is complicated to follow all the includes. I thought bbhostgrep is the answer but it only can find a test, not a host. Any ideas Thorsten user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid 25.02.2009 16:01 Bitte antworten an user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid An user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Kopie Thema RE: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles Are you using the "drop host" function in the "bb" command? From: user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid [mailto:user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:54 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] Howto delete abandoned datafiles Hi I have written a script which generates several hobbit bbhosts include files automaticly from our inventory system. Now I have a problem when a host has been deinstalled. I delete the entry from the hobbit config but the old datafiles (rrd and so on) keep there forever. Is there a tool to scan the complete hobbit bbhost hierarchy and delete all data which are not longer needed? Thank you Thorsten Erdmann If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation.
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 04:50:25PM +0100, user-9219fb9415b1@xymon.invalid wrote:
No. I export the data from our inventory and simply regenerate the bbhosts files. So old hosts simply are missing in the new bbhosts files. So I don't know which hosts were deleted. Therefore I would need to store the old export file and compare it to the new one to find the differences and use the "drop host" command. I find that very complicated.
"bbhostshow" lists the full bb-hosts file, with all of the includes done. Or you can query the hobbitd daemon with bb 127.0.0.1 "hobbitdboard test=info fields=hostname" to get a list of the currently known hosts. Matching that against the directory names in ~hobbit/data/rrd/ would be fairly trivial, and then you can use the bb 127.0.0.1 "drop HOSTNAME" to completely cleanup those hosts that no longer exist. Regards, Henrik