Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase

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list Becker Christian · Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:52:59 +0000 ·

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost "rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode"

Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work.

I did restart the webserver (apache2), the Xymon services, I did drop the test and the whole node MYHOST, all without success.
Even if I "hover" with the mouse over the test column DATANODE, the link pointing the the test page still points to a link URL containin the keyword DATANODE and not DataNode.

Is there anything I'm missing or anythind I did the wrong way?

My Xymon is 4.3.11.

Regards
Christian

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list John Thurston · Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:47:29 -0900 ·

▸ quoted from Becker Christian

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


-- 
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John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
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list Ralph Mitchell · Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:24:13 -0500 ·

In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

▸ quoted from John Thurston

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Andy Smith · Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:14:25 +0000 ·

▸ quoted from Ralph Mitchell

Ralph Mitchell wrote:

In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

        All,

        i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

        I tried this using the command:

        xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

        Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


    Did you try the ol' two-step?
    “rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
    “rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

    Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


    --        Do things because you should, not just because you can.


    John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX <tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
    user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
    Enterprise Technology Services
    Department of Administration
    State of Alaska

I believe this is still the case.  I went around a few buoys because our DB people had created a test called "Cluster" and then our Unix people created a test called "cluster", but the unix test appeared on the page as "Cluster".  This distinction propagated though to analysis.cfg and alerts.cfg and graphs.cfg as well.
-- 
Andy

list Becker Christian · Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:36:05 +0000 ·

I'd already try this step, but also without success....

My script reports in as "DataNode" - that's the most confusing part.

Regards

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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▸ quoted from Becker Christian

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▸ quoted from John Thurston


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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von John Thurston
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 17:47
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Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


-- 
    Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Becker Christian · Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:40:56 +0000 ·

I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.

▸ quoted from Becker Christian



Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.


John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Ralph Mitchell · Fri, 6 Feb 2015 06:47:37 -0500 ·

Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different
word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
 On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <

▸ quoted from Becker Christian

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from
“DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Becker Christian · Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:42:34 +0000 ·

Ralph,

that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.

But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?
So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?

▸ quoted from Ralph Mitchell


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Ralph Mitchell · Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:37:22 -0500 ·

If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file
to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else
it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some
history files.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <

▸ quoted from Becker Christian

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 Ralph,


that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.


But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the
word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?

So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
D-56070 Koblenz

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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different
word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from
“DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
D-56070 Koblenz

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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Betsy Schwartz · Sun, 8 Feb 2015 01:23:00 -0500 ·

I went nuts trying to do this once in the past. Some parts of xymon are
case-sensitive and other parts don't seem to be. I ended up totally
obliterating any trace of the test and then starting fresh.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ralph Mitchell <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>

▸ quoted from Ralph Mitchell

wrote:

If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file
to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else
it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some
history files.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 Ralph,


that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.


But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the
word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?

So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
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Verleger und Geschäftsführer: Walterpeter Twer
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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a
different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN
or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test
from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
D-56070 Koblenz

Verleger und Geschäftsführer: Walterpeter Twer
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www.rhein-zeitung.de


*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I
remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Ryan Novosielski · Sun, 8 Feb 2015 01:33:33 -0500 ·

I would think dropping the test would yield this result. But it seems like other people do not agree. Is that true?

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On Feb 6, 2015, at 09:42, Becker Christian <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

Ralph,

that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.

But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?
So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?

Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>
Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
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list Ralph Mitchell · Sun, 8 Feb 2015 02:03:10 -0500 ·

I think at minimum you need to drop that test for all hosts that have it.
Even then, Xymon may still keep the original-case spelling in an internal
list.  Dunno about that part....

Ralph Mitchell

▸ quoted from Ryan Novosielski

On Feb 8, 2015 1:33 AM, "Novosielski, Ryan" <user-6e4f7a3bb37f@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I would think dropping the test would yield this result. But it seems like
other people do not agree. Is that true?

____ *Note: UMDNJ is now Rutgers-Biomedical and Health Sciences*
|| \\UTGERS      |---------------------*O*---------------------
||_// Biomedical | Ryan Novosielski - Senior Technologist


|| \\ and Health | user-46c89e614701@xymon.invalid- 973/972.0922 (2x0922)

▸ quoted from Ryan Novosielski

||  \\  Sciences | OIRT/High Perf & Res Comp - MSB C630, Newark
    `'

On Feb 6, 2015, at 09:42, Becker Christian <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 Ralph,


that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.


But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the
word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?

So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?


Regards

Christian


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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid


<user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]

▸ quoted from Ryan Novosielski

*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different
word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from
“DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
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State of Alaska

list Becker Christian · Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:43:25 +0000 ·

Can you shortly explain the „checkpoint“ file?

▸ quoted from Ralph Mitchell


Regards
Christian

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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 16:37
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some history files.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Ralph,

that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.

But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?
So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?

Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
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Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Becker Christian · Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:44:13 +0000 ·

Just dropping the test didn’t do it for me….

▸ quoted from Becker Christian


Regards
Christian

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Von: Novosielski, Ryan [mailto:user-6e4f7a3bb37f@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 07:34
An: Becker Christian
Cc: Ralph Mitchell; xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase

I would think dropping the test would yield this result. But it seems like other people do not agree. Is that true?

____ *Note: UMDNJ is now Rutgers-Biomedical and Health Sciences*


|| \\UTGERS<file:///\\UTGERS>      |---------------------*O*---------------------

▸ quoted from Becker Christian

||_// Biomedical | Ryan Novosielski - Senior Technologist
|| \\ and Health | user-46c89e614701@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-46c89e614701@xymon.invalid>- 973/972.0922 (2x0922)
||  \\  Sciences | OIRT/High Perf & Res Comp - MSB C630, Newark
    `'

On Feb 6, 2015, at 09:42, Becker Christian <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Ralph,

that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.

But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?
So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?

Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Becker Christian · Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:16:49 +0000 ·

I found the checkpointfile.

But what can i say? I’ve made a copy of the xymond.chk, after that I’ve deleted out all the UPPERCASE entries of these tests. After restarting Xymon, the tests are still present in UPPERCASE.

Hm, Xymon – the beast ? ☺

Regards

▸ quoted from Becker Christian


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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von Becker Christian
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 08:43
An: 'Ralph Mitchell'
Cc: xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase

Can you shortly explain the „checkpoint“ file?

Regards
Christian

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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 16:37
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some history files.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Ralph,

that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.

But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?
So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?

Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>
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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
An: Becker Christian
Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.
But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.


Regards
Christian

Christian Becker
IT-Services

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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
An: John Thurston
Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:
All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.

Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX<tel:XXX-XXX-XXXX>
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
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list Steve B · Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:54:52 +0100 ·

I managed to do this a couple of times, it's a real pain though as stated
in this thread.  But is is possible to fix.

I used something along the lines of what is mentioned here (also some
explanations as to why it happens):

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.monitoring.hobbit/30529

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Becker Christian <

▸ quoted from Becker Christian

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I found the checkpointfile.


But what can i say? I’ve made a copy of the xymond.chk, after that I’ve
deleted out all the UPPERCASE entries of these tests. After restarting
Xymon, the tests are still present in UPPERCASE.


Hm, Xymon – the beast ? J

▸ quoted from Becker Christian



Regards


*Christian Becker*
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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Becker
Christian
*Gesendet:* Montag, 9. Februar 2015 08:43
*An:* 'Ralph Mitchell'

*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Can you shortly explain the „checkpoint“ file?


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid
<user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 16:37
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to
NormalCase


If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file
to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else
it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some
history files.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 Ralph,


that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.


But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the
word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?

So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?


Regards

Christian


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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different
word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from
“DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


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list Ralph Mitchell · Mon, 9 Feb 2015 06:51:14 -0500 ·

The checkpoint file saves the state of everything. Xymon writes to it
occasionally and loads it on startup. I think it also saves state when it
shuts down.  That's why you need to shut down Xymon before editing the
checkpoint file.

I have never tried it...

Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 9, 2015 3:16 AM, "Becker Christian" <

▸ quoted from Steve B

user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I found the checkpointfile.


But what can i say? I’ve made a copy of the xymond.chk, after that I’ve
deleted out all the UPPERCASE entries of these tests. After restarting
Xymon, the tests are still present in UPPERCASE.


Hm, Xymon – the beast ? J


Regards


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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Becker
Christian
*Gesendet:* Montag, 9. Februar 2015 08:43
*An:* 'Ralph Mitchell'
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Can you shortly explain the „checkpoint“ file?


Regards

Christian


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*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid
<user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 16:37
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to
NormalCase


If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file
to change all the misspellings , that might do it.  I don't know where else
it might be "remembered".  You might also need to rename and/or edit some
history files.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 Ralph,


that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.


But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the
word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data?

So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
D-56070 Koblenz

Verleger und Geschäftsführer: Walterpeter Twer
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Finanzamt Koblenz Str.Nr. 22 65 10 285 2

www.rhein-zeitung.de


*Von:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid]
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48
*An:* Becker Christian
*Cc:* John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word.
However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase
characteristics for that word.

So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different
word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <
user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from
“DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful.

But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server,
there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your
answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column
name.


Regards

Christian


*Christian Becker*
IT-Services


user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid


Mittelrhein-Verlag GmbH
August-Horch-Straße 28
D-56070 Koblenz

Verleger und Geschäftsführer: Walterpeter Twer
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*Von:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ralph
Mitchell
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24
*An:* John Thurston
*Cc:* xymon at xymon.com
*Betreff:* Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase


In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column.
Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess
subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower
case combination is mapped to that first record.

Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember
it. Rename was for hostnames only.

Ralph Mitchell

On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote:

All,

i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.

I tried this using the command:

xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”

Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.


Did you try the ol' two-step?
“rename MYHOST DATANODE foo”
“rename MYHOST foo DataNode”

Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?


--
   Do things because you should, not just because you can.

John Thurston    XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Enterprise Technology Services
Department of Administration
State of Alaska

list Henrik Størner · Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:56:33 +0100 ·

▸ quoted from Ralph Mitchell

Den 2015-02-09 12:51, Ralph Mitchell skrev:

The checkpoint file saves the state of everything. Xymon writes to it
occasionally and loads it on startup. I think it also saves state when
it shuts down.  Thats why you need to shut down Xymon before editing
the checkpoint file.

But what can i say? I’ve made a copy of the xymond.chk, after that
I’ve deleted out all the UPPERCASE entries of these tests. After
restarting Xymon, the tests are still present in UPPERCASE.

Xymon is case insensitive in test- and hostnames, but it will preserve the case that it learns about first. So if you *delete* the tests that are uppercase, then it will pick up the spelling that is used by the first test that is reported by a client. On the other hand, if you *modify* the entries in the checkpoint file, then it will preserve the case that you have in the checkpoint file.

And yes, you must shutdown xymon when editing the checkpoint file. It really isn't meant to be edited :-)

I am not entirely sure if you will lose the history for those tests that get renamed. History is saved in directories and files, and the filenames are case-sensitive - so you may need to rename those directories by hand if you want to keep the history.


Regards,
Henrik

list Bruce White · Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:44:15 +0000 ·

The history is not going anywhere unless you issue the "drop" command.   I have successfully renamed tests, by changing the script which sends the status and after the new test is establish, simply moving the contents of the history directory or file to the new name.

..........Bruce

▸ quoted from Henrik Størner



-----Original Message-----
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 5:57 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase

Den 2015-02-09 12:51, Ralph Mitchell skrev:

The checkpoint file saves the state of everything. Xymon writes to it
occasionally and loads it on startup. I think it also saves state
when
it shuts down.  Thats why you need to shut down Xymon before editing
the checkpoint file.

But what can i say? I’ve made a copy of the xymond.chk, after that
I’ve deleted out all the UPPERCASE entries of these tests. After
restarting Xymon, the tests are still present in UPPERCASE.

Xymon is case insensitive in test- and hostnames, but it will preserve
the case that it learns about first. So if you *delete* the tests that
are uppercase, then it will pick up the spelling that is used by the
first test that is reported by a client. On the other hand, if you
*modify* the entries in the checkpoint file, then it will preserve the
case that you have in the checkpoint file.

And yes, you must shutdown xymon when editing the checkpoint file. It
really isn't meant to be edited :-)

I am not entirely sure if you will lose the history for those tests
that get renamed. History is saved in directories and files, and the
filenames are case-sensitive - so you may need to rename those
directories by hand if you want to keep the history.


Regards,
Henrik


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