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How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when doing conn test ?

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list T.J. Yang · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:27:23 -0600 ·
I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and if 
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#How_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F


tj
list Josh Luthman · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:55:03 -0400 ·
Pretty confident if the DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn red
=(  If you don't need it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.
quoted from T.J. Yang

On 3/19/08, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and
if
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here


http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#How_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F


tj

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list Bruce White · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:48:28 -0500 ·
Josh,
 
I think the first statement is true.  I have many items monitored by hobbit
which are not registered in DNS (I live with a bunch of windows centric team
mates and they rely on WINS not DNS.   None of these items end up with
conn=red, but they are ID'd in the output from bbtest on the hobbit server.
Here is that output:
 
DNS statistics:
# hostnames resolved  :      383
# succesful           :      306
# failed              :       77
# calls to dnsresolve :      414

Notice that I have 77 monitored items which fail the DNS lookup.
 
      .....Bruce
 

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:55 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when
doing conn test ?
quoted from Josh Luthman


Pretty confident if the DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn red
=(  If you don't need it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.


On 3/19/08, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> >
quoted from Josh Luthman
wrote: 

I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and if
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#Ho
w_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F
<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#H
ow_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F> 
quoted from Josh Luthman


tj


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list Josh Luthman · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:13:30 -0400 ·
So if it can not resolve DNS, is it yellow instead of red?
quoted from Bruce White

On 3/19/08, White, Bruce <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Josh,

I think the first statement is true.  I have many items monitored by
hobbit which are not registered in DNS (I live with a bunch of windows
centric team mates and they rely on WINS not DNS.   None of these items end
up with conn=red, but they are ID'd in the output from bbtest on the hobbit
server.  Here is that output:

DNS statistics:
# hostnames resolved  :      383
# succesful           :      306
# failed              :       77
# calls to dnsresolve :      414

Notice that I have 77 monitored items which fail the DNS lookup.

      .....Bruce


*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:55 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure
when doing conn test ?

Pretty confident if the DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn
red =(  If you don't need it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.

On 3/19/08, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and
if
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here


http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#How_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F


tj

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list Bruce White · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:37:38 -0500 ·
Neither.   It tries DNS, then it tries the IP address in the bb-hosts file.
If it can ping the IP address it sets the conn dot to green.   The only
place I have found that reports it could not resolve the name via DNS is in
the output I copied into my email.
quoted from Josh Luthman

 
    .....Bruce

 
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:14 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when
doing conn test ?

 
So if it can not resolve DNS, is it yellow instead of red?

On 3/19/08, White, Bruce <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid>
quoted from Josh Luthman
wrote:
Josh,

 
I think the first statement is true.  I have many items monitored by hobbit
which are not registered in DNS (I live with a bunch of windows centric team
mates and they rely on WINS not DNS.   None of these items end up with
conn=red, but they are ID'd in the output from bbtest on the hobbit server.
Here is that output:

 
DNS statistics:
# hostnames resolved  :      383
# succesful           :      306
# failed              :       77
# calls to dnsresolve :      414

Notice that I have 77 monitored items which fail the DNS lookup.

 
      .....Bruce

 
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:55 AM

To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> 
quoted from Josh Luthman
Subject: Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when
doing conn test ?

Pretty confident if the DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn red
=(  If you don't need it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.

On 3/19/08, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> >
wrote: 

I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and if
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#Ho
w_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F
<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#H
ow_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F> 


tj


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list T.J. Yang · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:53:06 -0500 ·
found the manpage.

http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/help/manpages/man1/bbtest-net.1.html

but still not sure about ping test. will ping(conn) test will do the same like testing of telnet,http type of services.

--dns=[ip|only|standard]
Determines how bbtest-net finds the IP adresses of the hosts to test. 
By default (the "standard"), bbtest-net does a DNS lookup of the hostname 
to determine the IP address, unless the host has the "testip" 
tag, or the DNS lookup fails.


With "--dns=only" bbtest-net will ONLY do the DNS lookup;
it it fails, then all services on that host will be 
reported as being down.


With "--dns=ip" bbtest-net will never do a DNS lookup;
it will use the IP adresse specified in bb-hosts for
the tests. Thus, this setting is equivalent to having
the "testip" tag on all hosts. Note that http tests
will ignore this setting and still perform a DNS
lookup for the hostname given in the URL; see the
"bbtest-net tags for HTTP tests" section in
bb-hosts(5)

T.J. Yang
quoted from Bruce White

From: user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:37:38 -0500
Subject: RE: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when 	doing conn test ?


Neither.   It tries DNS, then it tries the
IP address in the bb-hosts file.   If it can ping the IP address it sets the
conn dot to green.   The only place I have found that reports it could not
resolve the name via DNS is in the output I copied into my email.

 
    …..Bruce

 
From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008
10:14 AM

To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid

Subject: Re: [hobbit] How hobbit
server deal with DNS server failure when doing conn test ?


So if it can not resolve
DNS, is it yellow instead of red?


On 3/19/08, White,
Bruce <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid>
wrote:


Josh,

 
I think the first statement is true. 
I have many items monitored by hobbit which are not registered in DNS (I live
with a bunch of windows centric team mates and they rely on WINS not
DNS.   None of these items end up with conn=red, but they are ID'd in
the output from bbtest on the hobbit server.  Here is that output:

 
DNS statistics:

# hostnames resolved  :      383

# succesful          
:      306

#
failed             
:       77

# calls to dnsresolve :      414


Notice that I have 77 monitored items which fail
the DNS lookup.

 
      .....Bruce

 
From: Josh
Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]


Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008
8:55 AM

To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid

Subject: Re: [hobbit] How hobbit
server deal with DNS server failure when doing conn test ?


Pretty confident if the
DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn red =(  If you don't need
it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.


On 3/19/08, T.J.
Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid>
wrote: 

I remember somewhere in
the manpages,


The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and if

not resolvable,

it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.


Is this a correct statement ?


I will summarize the answer here


http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#How_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F


tj


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poorly.

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 XXXXX


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list Geoff Hallford · Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:54:36 -0400 ·
First answer was correct. It will try DNS and if it can't resolve it, it
will use the IP and all will be green. I have many hosts with no DNS entries
(such as switches) and they don't fail when they have no DNS entry.
quoted from T.J. Yang

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM, T.J. Yang <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
found the manpage.

http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/help/manpages/man1/bbtest-net.1.html

but still not sure about ping test. will ping(conn) test will do the same
like testing of telnet,http type of services.

 --dns=[ip|only|standard] Determines how bbtest-net finds the IP adresses
of the hosts to test. By default (the "standard"), bbtest-net does a DNS
lookup of the hostname to determine the IP address, unless the host has the
"testip" tag, or the DNS lookup fails.
With "--dns=only" bbtest-net will ONLY do the DNS lookup; it it fails,
then all services on that host will be reported as being down.
With "--dns=ip" bbtest-net will never do a DNS lookup; it will use the IP
adresse specified in bb-hosts for the tests. Thus, this setting is
equivalent to having the "testip" tag on all hosts. Note that http tests
will ignore this setting and still perform a DNS lookup for the hostname
given in the URL; see the "bbtest-net tags for HTTP tests" section in *

bb-hosts <http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/help/manpages/man5/bb-hosts.5.html>;(5)
quoted from T.J. Yang
• T.J. Yang

From: user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:37:38 -0500
Subject: RE: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure when
doing conn test ?


 Neither.   It tries DNS, then it tries the IP address in the bb-hosts
file.   If it can ping the IP address it sets the conn dot to green.   The
only place I have found that reports it could not resolve the name via DNS
is in the output I copied into my email.


    …..Bruce


*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:14 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure
when doing conn test ?


So if it can not resolve DNS, is it yellow instead of red?

On 3/19/08, *White, Bruce* <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Josh,


I think the first statement is true.  I have many items monitored by
hobbit which are not registered in DNS (I live with a bunch of windows
centric team mates and they rely on WINS not DNS.   None of these items end
up with conn=red, but they are ID'd in the output from bbtest on the hobbit
server.  Here is that output:


DNS statistics:
# hostnames resolved  :      383
# succesful           :      306
# failed              :       77
# calls to dnsresolve :      414

Notice that I have 77 monitored items which fail the DNS lookup.


      .....Bruce


*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:55 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] How hobbit server deal with DNS server failure
when doing conn test ?

Pretty confident if the DNS lookup fails it times out and marks the conn
red =(  If you don't need it to do a DNS lookup simply add testip.

On 3/19/08, *T.J. Yang* <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I remember somewhere in the manpages,

The hobbit server when doing fping conn test, it will try using FQDN and
if
not resolvable,
it will use the ip address(from bb-hosts) file.

Is this a correct statement ?

I will summarize the answer here


http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Other_Docs/FAQ#How_does_the_conn_test_work_if_the_first_ping_doesn.27t_respond_.3F


tj


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