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list Gautier Begin · Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:58:19 +0100 ·
Hello,

I'm planning to install a new XYMON server and have to decide which OS to use.

I can install Solaris or Linux (RedHat, Suse). What are the pro and con according to you? I'm planning to use about 3 xymonproxies and at least 1000 clients (potentially up to 6000).

What about using SAN disks ?

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

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list Asif Iqbal · Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:46:17 -0500 ·
quoted from Gautier Begin
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hello,

I'm planning to install a new XYMON server and have to decide which OS to
use.

I can install Solaris or Linux (RedHat, Suse). What are the pro and con
according to you? I'm planning to use about 3 xymonproxies and at least 1000
clients (potentially up to 6000).
either one should work fine and you probably want to use the one you
are most comfortable with.

however, if this is your first time picking a OS, I would go with
centos or ubuntu-server
quoted from Gautier Begin
What about using SAN disks ?

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

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list Bruce White · Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:46:47 -0600 ·
Stick with Linux.  Ever notice how many special issues there are on this list and in release notes about Solaris?

 
 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:58 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [Xymon] [XYMON] New sever with Solaris or Linux

 
Hello, 

I'm planning to install a new XYMON server and have to decide which OS to use. 

I can install Solaris or Linux (RedHat, Suse). What are the pro and con according to you? I'm planning to use about 3 xymonproxies and at least 1000 clients (potentially up to 6000). 

What about using SAN disks ? 

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

Admin and Tools Team
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list T.J. Yang · Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:21:54 -0600 ·
Go with Linux if you have no Solaris legacy. Solaris is not Sun Solaris any
more. It is now Oracle Solaris.

tj
quoted from Bruce White

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:46 AM, White, Bruce <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
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Stick with Linux.  Ever notice how many special issues there are on this
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Hello,

I'm planning to install a new XYMON server and have to decide which OS to
use.

I can install Solaris or Linux (RedHat, Suse). What are the pro and con
according to you? I'm planning to use about 3 xymonproxies and at least
1000 clients (potentially up to 6000).

What about using SAN disks ?

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

Admin and Tools Team
CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A.
12D Impasse Drosbach
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list Elizabeth Schwartz · Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:51:54 -0500 ·
What else is in use at your site? Are you for-profit? How important is cost
vs support availability?  What hardware do you have?

I'm a huge believer in keeping the number of operating systems low. You can
leverage local expertise and local config management systems and
repositories.

This isn't the place to talk about what Oracle's done to Solaris so I'll
just say there doesn't seem to be any technical reason to want to run
Solaris for xymon. Most FOSS is developed under Linux these days which
means that most tools install more seamlessly on Linux. I'd consider using
Solaris for a Xymon server only if you've got a primarily-Solaris shop to
begin with.
list Gautier Begin · Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:55:15 +0100 ·
Elisabeth,

I'm currently using  XYMON 4.3.0.0 beta without any problem  . The server is running under a Solaris 10 zone and have about 600 agents (a mix of Windows -BBWIN-, Linux, AIX and Solaris).

I want to install a new XYMON server (version 4.3.7) in order to validate a new architecture with more agents (at least 1000 and up to 6000), devmon module and xymonproxy (to make communicate diff. networks easily).

I can bear on both Solaris and Linux experts (they say, use Ubuntu or CentOS). But they are discovering the new Solaris 11 that seems to be a different OS than previous versions.

The test server will be VM (VMware) or a Solaris zone. 
We are using VNX SAN disks. I can use Solaris T2000 or T4, or HP device for VM.
quoted from T.J. Yang

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

Admin and Tools Team
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From:   Elizabeth Schwartz <user-c61747246f66@xymon.invalid>
To:     xymon at xymon.com
Date:   01/25/2012 08:50 PM
Subject:        Re: [Xymon] [XYMON] New sever with Solaris or Linux

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quoted from Elizabeth Schwartz


What else is in use at your site? Are you for-profit? How important is cost vs support availability?  What hardware do you have?

I'm a huge believer in keeping the number of operating systems low. You can leverage local expertise and local config management systems and repositories. 

This isn't the place to talk about what Oracle's done to Solaris so I'll just say there doesn't seem to be any technical reason to want to run Solaris for xymon. Most FOSS is developed under Linux these days which means that most tools install more seamlessly on Linux. I'd consider using Solaris for a Xymon server only if you've got a primarily-Solaris shop to begin with. Xymon at xymon.com
list Asif Iqbal · Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:48:27 -0500 ·
quoted from Gautier Begin
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Elisabeth,

I'm currently using  XYMON 4.3.0.0 beta without any problem  . The server is
running under a Solaris 10 zone and have about 600 agents (a mix of Windows
-BBWIN-, Linux, AIX and Solaris).

I want to install a new XYMON server (version 4.3.7) in order to validate a
new architecture with more agents (at least 1000 and up to 6000), devmon
module and xymonproxy (to make communicate diff. networks easily).

I can bear on both Solaris and Linux experts (they say, use Ubuntu or
CentOS). But they are discovering the new Solaris 11 that seems to be a
different OS than previous versions.

The test server will be VM (VMware) or a Solaris zone.

We are using VNX SAN disks. I can use Solaris T2000 or T4, or HP device for
VM.

well, for sun4v solaris would be the only choice.
quoted from Gautier Begin

Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Gautier BEGIN

Admin and Tools Team
CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A.
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From:        Elizabeth Schwartz <user-c61747246f66@xymon.invalid>
To:        xymon at xymon.com
Date:        01/25/2012 08:50 PM
Subject:        Re: [Xymon] [XYMON] New sever with Solaris or Linux
Sent by:        xymon-bounces at xymon.com


What else is in use at your site? Are you for-profit? How important is cost
vs support availability?  What hardware do you have?

I'm a huge believer in keeping the number of operating systems low. You can
leverage local expertise and local config management systems and
repositories.

This isn't the place to talk about what Oracle's done to Solaris so I'll
just say there doesn't seem to be any technical reason to want to run
Solaris for xymon. Most FOSS is developed under Linux these days which means
that most tools install more seamlessly on Linux. I'd consider using Solaris
for a Xymon server only if you've got a primarily-Solaris shop to begin
with. 

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