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list Kris Springer · Sat, 30 Nov 2013 16:29:27 -0800 ·
How do I add SNMP network traffic graphs into xymon?  Back in the old days
with BB I used MRTG but I haven't had much luck getting it to work with
xymon for some reason.  Is there a built in traffic monitor in xymon?  I'm
not seeing it in any man pages or google searches.

Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
list Josh Luthman · Sat, 30 Nov 2013 19:33:04 -0500 ·
It'll do interfaces from the client.  If you want to do SNMP you must use
Devmon.

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quoted from Kris Springer
On Nov 30, 2013 7:30 PM, "Kris Springer" <user-c2caa0a7a8d5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
How do I add SNMP network traffic graphs into xymon?  Back in the old days
with BB I used MRTG but I haven't had much luck getting it to work with
xymon for some reason.  Is there a built in traffic monitor in xymon?  I'm
not seeing it in any man pages or google searches.

Thank you.
*Kris Springer*

list Scot Kreienkamp · Sun, 1 Dec 2013 02:23:09 +0000 ·
Not true.  Xymon will natively pick up any data files generated by MRTG and graph them.  You must create a config file for MRTG and have it generate and maintain the RRD data files, then Xymon will pick them up and graph them in the trends page.  Look for MRTG integration with Xymon.  It's very easy to do.
quoted from Josh Luthman

From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:33 PM
To: Kris Springer
Cc: Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring


It'll do interfaces from the client.  If you want to do SNMP you must use Devmon.

Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX
On Nov 30, 2013 7:30 PM, "Kris Springer" <user-c2caa0a7a8d5@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-c2caa0a7a8d5@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
How do I add SNMP network traffic graphs into xymon?  Back in the old days with BB I used MRTG but I haven't had much luck getting it to work with xymon for some reason.  Is there a built in traffic monitor in xymon?  I'm not seeing it in any man pages or google searches.

Thank you.
Kris Springer


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list Mike Burger · Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:06:28 -0500 (EST) ·
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
How do I add SNMP network traffic graphs into xymon?  Back in the old days
with BB I used MRTG but I haven't had much luck getting it to work with
xymon for some reason.  Is there a built in traffic monitor in xymon?  I'm
not seeing it in any man pages or google searches.
Kris:

Graphs for network traffic are already in place in the trends section.

Toward the bottom of that page, you should see two graphs...one for
"TCP/IP statistics" (packets per second) and one for "Network Traffic"
(kilo/megabits per second). Both have the same drill-down options as any
other graph on that page.

Will these suffice?

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list Kris Springer · Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:32:19 -0800 ·
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network
devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get 'devmon' going
and see if that will work for us.

Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
quoted from Mike Burger


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Mike Burger <user-cc5c6e80f4c5@xymon.invalid>wrote:
How do I add SNMP network traffic graphs into xymon?  Back in the old
days
with BB I used MRTG but I haven't had much luck getting it to work with
xymon for some reason.  Is there a built in traffic monitor in xymon?
 I'm
not seeing it in any man pages or google searches.
Kris:

Graphs for network traffic are already in place in the trends section.

Toward the bottom of that page, you should see two graphs...one for
"TCP/IP statistics" (packets per second) and one for "Network Traffic"
(kilo/megabits per second). Both have the same drill-down options as any
other graph on that page.

Will these suffice?

--
Mike Burger
http://www.bubbanfriends.org

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stops by to say 'hi' anymore." --Colonel Jack O'Neill, SG1
list Kris Springer · Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:58:14 -0800 ·
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I
installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not
adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's
got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I
don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it
running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I
have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought
I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require
OID's.  Should I just go back to that?

Thank you.
*Kris Springer*

*=======================*


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Hello,
quoted from Kris Springer

  That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the
network devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get 'devmon'
going and see if that will work for us.


When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge
Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last
September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two
years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.

Kind regards,
  Wim Nelis.


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list Robert Schetterer · Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:09:09 +0100 ·
Am 06.12.2013 08:58, schrieb Kris Springer:
quoted from Kris Springer
MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I
just go back to that?
why not integrate mrtg graphs in xymon ?

http://xymon.sourceforge.net/xymon/help/xymon-mrtg.html


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list W.J.M. Nelis · Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:20:43 +0100 ·
Hello,
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I just go back to that?
Included with Devmon is a rather large set of templates, one template for one type of device. Do you have them installed / available as well?
quoted from Kris Springer

Regards,
   Wim Nelis.


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list Scot Kreienkamp · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:45:53 +0000 ·
MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available.  Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer.  I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
quoted from Kris Springer

From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Kris Springer
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM
To: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring

Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I just go back to that?

Thank you.
Kris Springer

=======================


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hello,
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.


When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.

Kind regards,
  Wim Nelis.


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list W.J.M. Nelis · Fri, 06 Dec 2013 15:10:37 +0100 ·
Hello,
MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available.  Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer.  I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well. If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.

Regards,
   Wim Nelis.
*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Springer
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
*Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM
*To:* W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring

Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I just go back to that?


Thank you.

*Kris Springer*

/=======================/

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

Hello,

    That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the
    network devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get
    'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.


When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.

Kind regards,
  Wim Nelis.
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list Jerald Sheets · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:24:57 -0500 ·
Kris,  I'm a 20-year admin and it took a lot of research into MIBs, MIB
data, writing my own wrappers and the like to get mine working.  It
definitely required some work, and there are no simple documentation
efforts out there for DEVMON.

If there is, I'm going to be pissed because I asked for it on this very
list!

:-D

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quoted from W.J.M. Nelis


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Hello,

  MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon…. I had mine setup and running in
less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available.
Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no
brainer.  I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.


MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other
things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared
to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well.
If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance
temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.

Regards,
  Wim Nelis.


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quoted from W.J.M. Nelis
Behalf Of *Kris Springer
*Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM
*To:* W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring


Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I
installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not
adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's
got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I
don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it
running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I
have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought
I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require
OID's.  Should I just go back to that?


  Thank you.

*Kris Springer*


*=======================*


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Hello,

 That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the
network devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get 'devmon'
going and see if that will work for us.


When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge
Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last
September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two
years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.

Kind regards,
  Wim Nelis.


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list Scot Kreienkamp · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:31:38 +0000 ·
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput.  MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I've never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts.  I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I've used it.  I've also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn't allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.

The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that.  I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.
quoted from W.J.M. Nelis

From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of W.J.M. Nelis
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:11 AM
To: Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring

Hello,
MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available.  Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer.  I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.

MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well. If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.

Regards,
  Wim Nelis.


From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Kris Springer
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM
To: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring

Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work.  Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about.  Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot.  MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I just go back to that?

Thank you.
Kris Springer

=======================


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid>> wrote:
Hello,
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring.  I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.


When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.

Kind regards,
  Wim Nelis.


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list Mark Felder · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:20:22 -0600 ·
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <user-462cf0b6d846@xymon.invalid> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput.  MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts.  I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I’ve used it.  I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process. 
 
The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that.  I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon. 

This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with sending *alerts* for things like:

- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes


These are all things devmon can have xymon alert you for, but MRTG can only graph them.
list Kris Springer · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:25:03 -0800 ·
Yes, but all I'm interested in is the traffic graphing.  I've got other
things running for other alerts.

With so much built-in funtionality in Xymon it surprises me that network
device traffic graphing hasn't been just built-in yet.

Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
quoted from Mark Felder

*=======================*


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Mark Felder <user-db141d317836@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <user-462cf0b6d846@xymon.invalid> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput.  MRTG
will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve
never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts.  I
have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of
daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput
over the years I’ve used it.  I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor
and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough
variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.

The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing
something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that.  I
advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with
MRTG and Xymon.


This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with
sending *alerts* for things like:

- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes


These are all things devmon can have xymon alert you for, but MRTG can
only graph them.

list Scot Kreienkamp · Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:26:02 +0000 ·
That is an excellent point, there is no alerting with the MRTG integration, nor the possibility of it as far as I'm aware.  As for the rest, those are definite advantages that MRTG will never have.  In my case I have no need of alerting so MRTG fits my environment very well.
quoted from Mark Felder

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From: Mark Felder [mailto:user-db141d317836@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:20 PM
To: Scot Kreienkamp
Cc: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring


On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <user-462cf0b6d846@xymon.invalid> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput.  MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts.  I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I’ve used it.  I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.

The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that.  I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.

This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with sending *alerts* for things like:

- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes


These are all things devmon can have xymon alert you for, but MRTG can only graph them.
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list Sergey · Sat, 07 Dec 2013 11:27:33 +0400 ·
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
On Sunday 01 of December 2013 02:23:09 Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
Xymon will natively pick up any data files generated by MRTG and graph them.
Is collectd (http://collectd.org/) more useful may be ?

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list Jeremy Laidman · Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:57:55 +1100 ·
quoted from Kris Springer
On 6 December 2013 18:58, Kris Springer <user-c2caa0a7a8d5@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu?  I
installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not
adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason.  It's
got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I
don't know which paths to edit to make it work.
Here's an upstart config that Asif put together:

http://improvise.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/run-devmon-using-upstart-script/
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp

Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs
with OID's that I have no idea about.
The devmon templates has the OIDs for the most common devices, and even
some uncommon ones.  It's not too difficult to craft up new ones, or extend
existing ones.
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp

 Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot.
 MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's.  Should I just
go back to that?
Having used both, I think that devmon is easier to get up and running,
unless you have experience with only MRTG.  If all you want is interface
in/out traffic and error rates, MRTG will do what you want.

But you might be surprised by how much devmon gives you out of the box -
once you have it up and running.  I had a situation where a faulty power
supply was detected immediately devmon started looking at it.  Xymon has
special code to handle devmon messages, so the Xymon/devmon integration is
superior to MRTG in many cases.

I'm happy to help if you want to persevere with devmon.

J