Hobbit developer access.
list David Peters
I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?
list T.J. Yang
Hi, David Please send him email again, the email may got lost (of attention) given mass emails he got. T.J. Yang
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From: user-66917457e380@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:53:51 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?
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On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:
I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?
AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked. I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions. If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
list Padraig Lennon
This brings up a good point.. We use Xymon extensively at my company but I'm worried about the lack of a long term outlook for the project. Is there a roadmap for Xymon? If there is where are we on it? If there is not should we as a community draw up one? Just wondering what people think.. I personally love xymon, but its getting harder to sell it to management.. Padraig Lennon Senior Systems Engineer Production Services Pioneer Global Investments (Dublin) 5th Floor Georges Quay Plaza, Dublin 2 ext: XXXX Direct dial: 00353 1 480 2081
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Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access.
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?
AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked. I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions. If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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list David Peters
I have added you to the project, are you comfortable using SVN? The structure I am trying to stick to is xymon-addons/package/version and xymon-addons/package/trunk.
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Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access.
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?
AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked. I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions. If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:18:13 +0200 From: user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. This brings up a good point.. We use Xymon extensively at my company but I'm worried about the lack of a long term outlook for the project.
Same here in regard of xymon deployment. But what I am worry about is that we still don't have a team of developers to develop xymon(hobbit). we(including me ;) are still relying solely on henrik's free development effort.
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Is there a roadmap for Xymon? If there is where are we on it? If there is not should we as a community draw up one?
Can you put down what you like to see in this url ? http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Development_Road_Map But put down wish lists is one thing, getting it done by others is another. Not many xymon developers know C and xymon program architecture and also have free time to work on features in the roadmap.
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Just wondering what people think.. I personally love xymon, but its getting harder to sell it to management..
tj
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Padraig Lennon Senior Systems Engineer Production Services Pioneer Global Investments (Dublin) 5th Floor Georges Quay Plaza, Dublin 2 ext: XXXX Direct dial: 00353 1 480 2081 -----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid] Sent: 24 June 2009 08:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Cc: David Peters Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked. I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions. If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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From: user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:05:57 +0200 CC: user-66917457e380@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked.
I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions.
Currently, hobbit src tree has empty ext directories after un-packed. I am hoping to see more xymon-addons in the ext directories of both xymon client and server src tree, These xymon-addons include more add-on that are ported from bb or solely for xymon. but doing so means all the xymon-addon authors need to have write access to xymon svn respository server. This is another adminitration overhead that someone need to take on. tj
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If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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On Wednesday 24 June 2009, T.J. Yang wrote:
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:18:13 +0200 From: user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. This brings up a good point.. We use Xymon extensively at my company but I'm worried about the lack of a long term outlook for the project.Same here in regard of xymon deployment. But what I am worry about is that we still don't have a team of developers to develop xymon(hobbit). we(including me ;) are still relying solely on henrik's free development effort.
There was a discussion when Henrik was out for a few weeks. And it was clear that there were enough volunteers (including me) to take over the development. Some time later, Henrik switched to a (little) more open development with svn where also other people had commit access. Anyway, when development stops. I have to take over delopment because we integrade xymon in our monitoring solution. The few patches I proposed were (almost) all accepted. So Henrik is very open to input from other developers. Stef
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From: user-dbffe946c0f4@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:55:24 +0200 Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon roadmap On Wednesday 24 June 2009, T.J. Yang wrote:Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:18:13 +0200 From: user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. This brings up a good point.. We use Xymon extensively at my company but I'm worried about the lack of a long term outlook for the project.Same here in regard of xymon deployment. But what I am worry about is that we still don't have a team of developers to develop xymon(hobbit). we(including me ;) are still relying solely on henrik's free development effort.There was a discussion when Henrik was out for a few weeks. And it was clear that there were enough volunteers (including me) to take over the development. Some time later, Henrik switched to a (little) more open development with svn where also other people had commit access. Anyway, when development stops. I have to take over delopment because we integrade xymon in our monitoring solution.
We settled to xymon after using HP NNM,HP OV, Big brother and Nagio.
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The few patches I proposed were (almost) all accepted. So Henrik is very open to input from other developers.
Just to be clear, my comment is not saying the Henrik is not open for others to help. My point is that we should have more developers like Henrik to share the xymon development load. I have been trying to improve myself but still a long way to go. tj
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Why not utilise a different repository - like xymon-addons and then merge the releases periodically into the ext directory of xymon. That way not everyone needs commit access to xymon and the upload of addons into the ext directory can be done in a more orderly fashion. David Peters +61 2 63913565 +61 4 17863572 From: "T.J. Yang" <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> To: hobbit system monitoring <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Cc: <user-66917457e380@xymon.invalid> Date: 25/06/2009 02:33 AM
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From: user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:05:57 +0200 CC: user-66917457e380@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked.
I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions.
Currently, hobbit src tree has empty ext directories after un-packed. I am hoping to see more xymon-addons in the ext directories of both xymon client and server src tree, These xymon-addons include more add-on that are ported from bb or solely for xymon. but doing so means all the xymon-addon authors need to have write access to xymon svn respository server. This is another adminitration overhead that someone need to take on. tj
If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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list David Peters
I am happy to contribute to the development effort. I have some changes to the core code that I currently maintain onsite here and merge into the main code whenever we download a new version for release. Not the sort of changes I would release into the core code, but nevertheless I am conmfortable with C and the core of xymon.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:18:13 +0200 From: user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. This brings up a good point.. We use Xymon extensively at my company but I'm worried about the lack of a long term outlook for the project.
Same here in regard of xymon deployment. But what I am worry about is that we still don't have a team of developers to develop xymon(hobbit). we(including me ;) are still relying solely on henrik's free development effort.
Is there a roadmap for Xymon? If there is where are we on it? If there is not should we as a community draw up one?
Can you put down what you like to see in this url ? http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Development_Road_Map But put down wish lists is one thing, getting it done by others is another. Not many xymon developers know C and xymon program architecture and also have free time to work on features in the roadmap.
Just wondering what people think.. I personally love xymon, but its getting harder to sell it to management..
tj
Padraig Lennon Senior Systems Engineer Production Services Pioneer Global Investments (Dublin) 5th Floor Georges Quay Plaza, Dublin 2 ext: XXXX Direct dial: 00353 1 480 2081 -----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid] Sent: 24 June 2009 08:06 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Cc: David Peters Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit developer access. On Tuesday 23 June 2009 11:53:51 David Peters wrote:I sent an email to Henrik some time ago about getting access to be able to check in bug fixes via svn but got no reply. Is the current list of developers locked or did I miss something?AFAIK, no. Henrik is probably just over-worked. I am listed (to maintain the devmon collector module). BTW, what are your plans for the xymon-addons project? I think I should start putting some of our extensions somewhere, and I would prefer something with VCS (which is why I haven't put anything on The Shire), and I think it would be beneficial to users if releases (e.g. tarballs) were made with consistent deployment methods for all extensions. If you think it's a good idea, please add 'buchanmilne' as a developer with commit access to xymon-addons. Regards, Buchan
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list Bill Richardson
On the topic of a roadmap. What is on the roadmap. Just wondering if a URL is available to see what is planned for upcoming releases. Thanks Bill Richardson
list Rich Smrcina
On February 9, Henrik posted the following roadmap to the list. I haven't heard much lately so I don't know if it has changed. Version 4.4: * SNMP support for data collection * Status updates based on data collected in the RRD files (this is really nice - essentially, *any* value you put into an RRD file can trigger a new or modified status in Xymon. So you could eg. change the status of your "http" test to go red, if the response time of a webpage exceeds 5 seconds). * Status "flap" handling, to catch statuses that change rapidly. Version 4.5: * Support for communication between clients and Xymon to use compression and/or encryption. * Support for client authentication via SSL certificates (so you cannot spoof a client message). Version 4.6: * Revised web interface - eliminate the need for webserver-based authentication, and provide more fine-grained authorization for the various Xymon components. * Per-user custom login pages, so the login will always show those systems that the user has responsibility for / is allowed to access. Somewhere along the road I will also introduce a new "ping" test daemon - I am getting to the point where ping'ing all hosts take longer than 5 minutes (I have a lot of hosts). So something needs to be done, and I think I know how to do it.
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Bill Richardson wrote:On the topic of a roadmap. What is on the roadmap. Just wondering if a URL is available to see what is planned for upcoming releases. Thanks Bill Richardson
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Rich Smrcina wrote:
On February 9, Henrik posted the following roadmap to the list. I haven't heard much lately so I don't know if it has changed. Version 4.4: * SNMP support for data collection * Status updates based on data collected in the RRD files (this is really nice - essentially, *any* value you put into an RRD file can trigger a new or modified status in Xymon. So you could eg. change the status of your "http" test to go red, if the response time of a webpage exceeds 5 seconds). * Status "flap" handling, to catch statuses that change rapidly. Version 4.5: * Support for communication between clients and Xymon to use compression and/or encryption. * Support for client authentication via SSL certificates (so you cannot spoof a client message). Version 4.6: * Revised web interface - eliminate the need for webserver-based authentication, and provide more fine-grained authorization for the various Xymon components. * Per-user custom login pages, so the login will always show those systems that the user has responsibility for / is allowed to access. Somewhere along the road I will also introduce a new "ping" test daemon - I am getting to the point where ping'ing all hosts take longer than 5 minutes (I have a lot of hosts). So something needs to be done, and I think I know how to do it.
Hi, Has someone an idea of the possibles releases regarding this mail of henrik for the year coming ? Kind regards, Denis
list Vernon Everett
Let's not open that can of worms again. Please see here. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/FAQ#When_is_the_next_version_going_to_be_released_.3F The short answer is "We get it when it's ready, and not before". Regards Vernon
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Hi,
Has someone an idea of the possibles releases regarding this mail of henrik for the year coming ?
Kind regards,
Denis
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Everett, Vernon wrote:
Let's not open that can of worms again. Please see here. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/FAQ#When_is_the_next_version_going_to_be_released_.3F The short answer is "We get it when it's ready, and not before". Regards Vernon
Oh shit ... sorry i didn't knew it was already discussed there :) Thanks for the link i didn't seen myslef before. Regards, Denis