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list Al Jeffcoat
Hello All, I've got a question... And I apologize ahead of time if it's been covered already. We have been running bb/hobbit for some time. First it was on UNIX only, because the windows admins didn't like it. Then our execs saw it, and liked it. They then mandated that all systems will be monitored by hobbit. Here's where the problem starts. Windows has been generating a lot of red events. The execs overreact to red events that are really not problems. We've tired to explain that just because something is red, doesn't mean that a system is down. The windows admins are tuning it down as best as they can, but it still happens. So my thought was to have two hobbit's, one that receives client data for our engineers to see and work with, and then another that just does the network tests, and this would be what our execs see. Both would be sitting on the same server, running in separate directories, and separate virtual servers. What I'm trying to get to is two views, an executive view, and a technical view. Has anyone done something like this? Is there a better way within hobbit itself? TIA Al Jeffcoat This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, use, or distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. This communication may contain material protected by Federal privacy regulations, attorney-client work product, or other privileges. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to: user-ecde3bbc361d@xymon.invalid . If this e-mail message concerns a contract matter, be advised that no employee or agent is authorized to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of Orlando Regional Healthcare by e-mail without express written confirmation by an officer of the corporation. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Orlando Regional Healthcare.
list Tom Callahan
I've had similar occurrences with Windows machines. The message file logging tends to generate red events all the time due to the lovely services manager stuff. I don't have a solution for you, but if you could give us an idea of what exactly you are seeing that is triggering hobbit to go red, that could help us to determine a way for you to set timeouts and the likes for certain events. Thanks, Tom Callahan
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Jeffcoat, Al wrote:
Hello All, I’ve got a question… And I apologize ahead of time if it’s been covered already. We have been running bb/hobbit for some time. First it was on UNIX only, because the windows admins didn’t like it. Then our execs saw it, and liked it. They then mandated that all systems will be monitored by hobbit. Here’s where the problem starts. Windows has been generating a lot of red events. The execs overreact to red events that are really not problems. We’ve tired to explain that just because something is red, doesn’t mean that a system is down. The windows admins are tuning it down as best as they can, but it still happens. So my thought was to have two hobbit’s, one that receives client data for our engineers to see and work with, and then another that just does the network tests, and this would be what our execs see. Both would be sitting on the same server, running in separate directories, and separate virtual servers. What I’m trying to get to is two views, an executive view, and a technical view. Has anyone done something like this? Is there a better way within hobbit itself? TIA Al Jeffcoat This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, use, or distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. This communication may contain material protected by Federal privacy regulations, attorney-client work product, or other privileges. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly,
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Jeffcoat, Al wrote:
Hello All, I’ve got a question… And I apologize ahead of time if it’s been covered already. We have been running bb/hobbit for some time. First it was on UNIX only, because the windows admins didn’t like it. Then our execs saw it, and liked it. They then mandated that all systems will be monitored by hobbit. Here’s where the problem starts. Windows has been generating a lot of red events. The execs overreact to red events that are really not problems. We’ve tired to explain that just because something is red, doesn’t mean that a system is down. The windows admins are tuning it down as best as they can, but it still happens. So my thought was to have two hobbit’s, one that receives client data for our engineers to see and work with, and then another that just does the network tests, and this would be what our execs see. Both would be sitting on the same server, running in separate directories, and separate virtual servers. What I’m trying to get to is two views, an executive view, and a technical view. Has anyone done something like this? Is there a better way within hobbit itself?
Perhaps you should leave things as thy are, as a (not so) subtle reminder of the fickleness of Windows servers </winbash> JT -- "This is my root password. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My root password is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, as I must master my life. Without me, my root password is useless. Without my root password, I am useless."
list Henrik Størner
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:56:00PM -0400, Jeffcoat, Al wrote:
Here's where the problem starts. Windows has been generating a lot of red events. The execs overreact to red events that are really not problems. We've tired to explain that just because something is red, doesn't mean that a system is down. The windows admins are tuning it down as best as they can, but it still happens. So my thought was to have two hobbit's, one that receives client data for our engineers to see and work with, and then another that just does the network tests, and this would be what our execs see. Both would be sitting on the same server, running in separate directories, and separate virtual servers. What I'm trying to get to is two views, an executive view, and a technical view.
This sounds like what pagesets are for. Basically, you can define an alternate layout of the hosts on your Hobbit webpages, and when generating the webpages for the new layout you can remove certain tests that are likely to cause problems - e.g. the "msgs" column from your Windows boxes. This is described in the bbgen(1) man-page, look for the "BUILDING ALTERNATE PAGESETS" section. When generating the executive webpages, you can also use some of the bbgen options, like "--ignorecolumns=msgs" if you just want to completely remove any "msgs" column from the view, or the various --noprop* options to keep a non-green status from affecting the color of higher-level pages. A very simple solution might be to just use the "NK" page as the executive webpage. Statuses appear on the "NK" page only if they are listed in the "NK:testname,..." tag for each host, so you can pick out the critical tests and put them on a single page for your executives. Then they have a one-page overview of all systems - I think that would appeal to the group of people you're targeting. You don't need to run multiple pagesets for that - the NK page is generated by default. Running two full Hobbit's is overkill - you already have the data, it's just a matter of presenting it. Regards, Henrik
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