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Anyone working on an NT client?

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list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:30:16 -0500 ·
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would feel a
whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.

We're an SAP/R3 shop (AIX on IBM p5 equipment), with your basic NT
infrastructure -- MS-Exchange, Active Directory, NT Print Servers, that
sort of thing. SAP is now pushing something they call 'portals', using
Netweaver on NT to front-end databases (Oracle) on unix (AIX) -- so I
have even more NT systems to add to my monitoring.

TIA --

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
list Paul Williamson · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:53:00 -0500 ·
user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 10:30 AM >>>
quoted from Tom Kauffman
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would feel a whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
Why?  Do you have the source to Windows NT?  How about to Exchange or SAP?  I know, maybe Larry will give you the source to Oracle...

I don't get why having the source is of any consequence...

Paul
list Henrik Størner · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:27:52 +0100 ·
quoted from Paul Williamson
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:30:16AM -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would feel a
whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
One of my colleagues is working on it. I know he's got the development
tools setup that he wants to use now, and we exchanged some mail just
before christmas about the message format between a Win32 client and
the Hobbit server, so it is progressing.

It will be GPL licensed.


Henrik
list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:54:23 -0500 ·
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really supposed to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.

Leads me to wonder a bit myself about the Q/C on the rest of the code.

Tom
quoted from Paul Williamson

-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:53 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?
user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 10:30 AM >>>
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would feel a whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
Why?  Do you have the source to Windows NT?  How about to Exchange or SAP?  I know, maybe Larry will give you the source to Oracle...

I don't get why having the source is of any consequence...

Paul
list Daniel J McDonald · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:01:24 -0600 ·
quoted from Tom Kauffman
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:54 -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really supposed to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.
Isn't that a timezone?


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Austin Energy
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list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:54:53 -0500 ·
Timezone should be 'EST' or 'EDT'; never seen one with a 'U' as the
first letter. I could be wrong, though -- I've never looked.

Tom
quoted from Daniel J McDonald

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel J McDonald [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:01 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?

On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:54 -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really supposed
to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.
Isn't that a timezone?


-- 
Daniel J McDonald, CCIE # 2495, CNX, CISSP # 78281
Austin Energy
user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid


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list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:57:14 -0500 ·
Thanks, Henrik.

If he needs another batty (beta) tester, we've got a couple of systems
we can slide it onto. We're currently writing additional tests for the
bbnt client in perl, FWIW.

Tom
quoted from Henrik Størner

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:28 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?

On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:30:16AM -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would feel
a
whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
One of my colleagues is working on it. I know he's got the development
tools setup that he wants to use now, and we exchanged some mail just
before christmas about the message format between a Win32 client and
the Hobbit server, so it is progressing.

It will be GPL licensed.


Henrik
list Paul Williamson · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:12:10 -0500 ·
user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 12:01 PM >>>
quoted from Tom Kauffman
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:54 -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client
myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past
two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really
supposed to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.
Isn't that a timezone?
Assumptions are a funny thing...

LOL, that is some funny ish...I seriously doubt they'd stick the name of their company in the middle of the date.  It's probably  referencing they are using Universal EST or something like that.
I've never heard of that, but I'm guessing that the UEST is not because they misspelled Quest.

Paul
list Charles Jones · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:30:35 -0700 ·
quoted from Paul Williamson
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 12:01 PM >>>
       
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:54 -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
 
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client
     
myself
 
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past
     
two
 
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really
     
supposed to
 
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.
     
Isn't that a timezone?
   
Assumptions are a funny thing...

LOL, that is some funny ish...I seriously doubt they'd stick the name of their company in the middle of the date.  It's probably  referencing they are using Universal EST or something like that.
I've never heard of that, but I'm guessing that the UEST is not because they misspelled Quest.
 
I would guess that UEST refers to US - EST, as there are different EST zones, relative to UTC time:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz-names/wtz-est.html

Although, I can find references to WEST, AEST, CEST, and even EEST, I don't see much mention of UEST:
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/

Whoever coded that output should probably make it say UTC or GMT...or maybe it pulls it from the systems locale settings and that setting is incorrect.
list Tom Kauffman · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:38:11 -0500 ·
Yeah, I just did some looking around -- and I can't find 'UEST' as a
time zone. We've got 'EST' (Eastern Standard Time, North America, UTC -
5) and 'EST' (Eastern Summer Time, Australia at UTC + 11, Eastern
Standard Time, Australia, UTC + 10) and 'U' (Uniform time zone, military
(US?) UTC - 8).

I'm going from this site:
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/

But the field IS the time-zone field on the headers from the *nix
systems. I wonder if we'll see 'UEDT' next year, since Indiana has
decided to get back into the "change the clock" game.

I'd still like to see the source . . .
quoted from Charles Jones

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:12 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?
user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 12:01 PM >>>
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:54 -0500, Kauffman, Tom wrote:
Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client
myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past
two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really
supposed to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.
Isn't that a timezone?
Assumptions are a funny thing...

LOL, that is some funny ish...I seriously doubt they'd stick the 
name of their company in the middle of the date.  It's probably  
referencing they are using Universal EST or something like that.
I've never heard of that, but I'm guessing that the UEST is not 
because they misspelled Quest.

Paul
list Al Jeffcoat · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:17:50 -0500 ·
My management (even the director was curious about this) asked for the
same thing, do we have access to the source for the Windows client.  So
you are not alone there.  We told them no, were allowed anyway to
install the Windows client, over the objections of some of our security
and intel team.  

:)  Fortunately, the intel manager is an old UNIX guy :)

Al
quoted from Paul Williamson

-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:53 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?
user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 10:30 AM >>>
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would 
feel a whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
Why?  Do you have the source to Windows NT?  How about 
to Exchange or SAP?  I know, maybe Larry will give you 
the source to Oracle...

I don't get why having the source is of any consequence...

Paul
list Anton Burkhalter · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:11:27 +0100 ·
Hi all,

There is nothing special with such stuff in the date string :-)
Examples:

Standard on my system:
# date                                                                                                                                         
Wed Dec 28 21:00:46 CET 2005
# echo $TZ
CET-1CEST-2,M3.5.0/2,M10.5.0/3

Playing with the TZ environment:
# TZ=FOO-1BAR
# date
Wed Dec 28 21:01:34 FOO 2005

# TZ=UEST-1WONDERING
# date
Wed Dec 28 21:01:47 UEST 2005

Toni
quoted from Al Jeffcoat

My management (even the director was curious about this) asked for the
same thing, do we have access to the source for the Windows client.  So
you are not alone there.  We told them no, were allowed anyway to
install the Windows client, over the objections of some of our security
and intel team.  

:)  Fortunately, the intel manager is an old UNIX guy :)

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:53 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?

 
user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 10:30 AM >>>
       
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would 
feel a whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
   
Why?  Do you have the source to Windows NT?  How about 
to Exchange or SAP?  I know, maybe Larry will give you 
the source to Oracle...

I don't get why having the source is of any consequence...

Paul
 
list Lars Ebeling · Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:26:40 +0100 ·
I think UEST is Universal Easter Standard time. I don't know exactly when, 
but sometime in the spring.
quoted from Anton Burkhalter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kauffman, Tom" <user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?


Well, among other things, I'd be a bit happier about the client myself
if the company name weren't so prominently mis-spelled in the past two
releases. I'm assuming that 'UEST' in this header is really supposed to
be 'QUEST': Wed Dec 28 12:01:19 UEST 2005.

Leads me to wonder a bit myself about the Q/C on the rest of the code.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:53 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Anyone working on an NT client?
user-3feba9e60a8b@xymon.invalid 12/28/05 10:30 AM >>>
I'm interested.

I currently run the BB/Quest bbnt client, but my NT admins would
feel a whole lot better about installing it if we had the source.
Why?  Do you have the source to Windows NT?  How about
to Exchange or SAP?  I know, maybe Larry will give you
the source to Oracle...

I don't get why having the source is of any consequence...

Paul