Weird hobbit/proxy/CONN catch-22?
list Kent Brodie
OK guys, here's what I have (thank to all that helped me thus far, especially Henrik!) My setup involves a hidden cluster-- which means that from my MAIN Hobbit server (BBDISPLAY), I cannot see nor ping the cluster nodes, but I *can* see and talk to the cluster "head node". Based on prior suggestions, I set it all up as follows: Main BB server has config entries for everything, including the cluster head node AND the cluster nodes it "can't see" directly. These entries are listed as: Hidden.ip.address.here host.name.here # noconn "noconn" obviously, since the network tests from the main Hobbit server would fail! --- Next, I set up the cluster head node as a BB server. Actually, its main purpose is to run the network and such tests, and act as a proxy server for the whole cluster. --- It all works. Sort of! On my main BB display, I see the entries for the "unreachable" cluster nodes, which is very cool. I see the cpu, disk, files, msgs, etc. But-- there's no connectivity (conn) information or status information. --- Catch-22? How do I get the "conn" test to show up? If I list "conn" in the bb-hosts on my main Hobbit server, I am going to assume that the conn tests will have issues, since that server(s) really are unreachable from the BBDISPLAY host. But if I set it up listed as "noconn" on the BBDISPLAY server-- um, there's no conn data/column (a Homr Simpson "D'oh!" goes here). Any ideas? The BBPROXY setup described above is working as far as information exchange, as I am indeed seeing cpu, disk, files, info, msgs, ports, procs, and that's all very very cool and good. But I need 'conn' most of all. Help! (and thanks) By the way - a suggestion for stuff down the road a bit: When I set up my proxy server (./configure -server), there was of course all of the requirements I had to have met, such as having RRDTOOL, libpng, etc etc all there. That's great, except I have no intention of having this other server doing anything other than running a few tests, and forwarding it all on to the BBD server. No data, no RRD, no graphs, no apache, no html. One big suggestion I have (since the proxy is such a cool thing) is to perhaps including things like: ./configure -proxy-only ? Just a thought. This may or may not be complicated... Kent C. Brodie - user-da7f7d5174c0@xymon.invalid Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (XXX) XXX-XXXX
list Kent Brodie
Hi everyone! Um, any ideas on this? I didn't get a single reply - maybe my original post didn't make it to the list? Thanks......
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From: Brodie, Kent
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:08 AM
To: 'user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid'
Subject: Weird hobbit/proxy/CONN catch-22?
OK guys, here's what I have (thank to all that helped me thus far,
especially Henrik!)
My setup involves a hidden cluster-- which means that from my MAIN
Hobbit server (BBDISPLAY), I cannot see nor ping the cluster nodes, but
I *can* see and talk to the cluster "head node".
Based on prior suggestions, I set it all up as follows:
Main BB server has config entries for everything, including the cluster
head node AND the cluster nodes it "can't see" directly.
These entries are listed as:
Hidden.ip.address.here host.name.here # noconn
"noconn" obviously, since the network tests from the main Hobbit server
would fail!
---
Next, I set up the cluster head node as a BB server. Actually, its
main purpose is to run the network and such tests, and act as a proxy
server for the whole cluster.
---
It all works. Sort of! On my main BB display, I see the entries
for the "unreachable" cluster nodes, which is very cool. I see the
cpu, disk, files, msgs, etc. But-- there's no connectivity (conn)
information or status information.
---
Catch-22? How do I get the "conn" test to show up? If I list "conn"
in the bb-hosts on my main Hobbit server, I am going to assume that the
conn tests will have issues, since that server(s) really are unreachable
from the BBDISPLAY host. But if I set it up listed as "noconn" on
the BBDISPLAY server-- um, there's no conn data/column (a Homr Simpson
"D'oh!" goes here).
Any ideas? The BBPROXY setup described above is working as far as
information exchange, as I am indeed seeing cpu, disk, files, info,
msgs, ports, procs, and that's all very very cool and good. But I need
'conn' most of all.
Help! (and thanks)
By the way - a suggestion for stuff down the road a bit: When I set up
my proxy server (./configure -server), there was of course all of the
requirements I had to have met, such as having RRDTOOL, libpng, etc etc
all there. That's great, except I have no intention of having this
other server doing anything other than running a few tests, and
forwarding it all on to the BBD server. No data, no RRD, no graphs, no
apache, no html. One big suggestion I have (since the proxy is such
a cool thing) is to perhaps including things like: ./configure
-proxy-only ? Just a thought. This may or may not be
complicated...
Kent C. Brodie - user-da7f7d5174c0@xymon.invalid
Department of Physiology
Medical College of Wisconsin
(XXX) XXX-XXXX
list Henrik Størner
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 11:08:28AM -0500, Brodie, Kent wrote:
It all works. Sort of! On my main BB display, I see the entries for the "unreachable" cluster nodes, which is very cool. I see the cpu, disk, files, msgs, etc. But-- there's no connectivity (conn) information or status information. Catch-22? How do I get the "conn" test to show up? If I list "conn" in the bb-hosts on my main Hobbit server, I am going to assume that the conn tests will have issues, since that server(s) really are unreachable from the BBDISPLAY host. But if I set it up listed as "noconn" on the BBDISPLAY server-- um, there's no conn data/column (a Homr Simpson "D'oh!" goes here).
Run the network tests from the proxy server, which has network connectivity to the cluster nodes, and have it report the results back to the Hobbit server (it sounds as if this is already in place, it's just the BBDISPLAY setting in the proxy server's hobbitserver.cfg). I.e. enable the [bbnet] task on the proxy server, and setup a bb-hosts file on that server with just the cluster nodes and whatever network tests you might want to run against them (ping is default, but there might be other network services you'd like to keep an eye on). Even though there's a "noconn" setting in the Hobbit server's bb-hosts file, a "conn" status sent by the proxy server will show up on the web pages. "noconn" only has effect on what network tests are being run from the Hobbit server.
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By the way - a suggestion for stuff down the road a bit: When I set up my proxy server (./configure -server), there was of course all of the requirements I had to have met, such as having RRDTOOL, libpng, etc etc all there. That's great, except I have no intention of having this other server doing anything other than running a few tests, and forwarding it all on to the BBD server. No data, no RRD, no graphs, no apache, no html. One big suggestion I have (since the proxy is such a cool thing) is to perhaps including things like: ./configure -proxy-only ? Just a thought. This may or may not be complicated...
It's not terribly complicated, it just needs a bit of work with the configuration scripts and Makefile's. There is one or two setups that which would be relevant: A network-tests only build, and a bbproxy/hobbitfetch build. In the future it might be relevant to have a web-only build (if I decide to split up the webserver part from the Hobbit data-collection part). Regards, Henrik