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On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out alerts
for the process check for a machine that was actually shown as green
on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the monitored machine, and the
alert was indeed green, yet the server was still sending out emails as
though it were in a yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on
the monitored machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the
server.  After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit server
process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and removed the
erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the problem.  It was only
after I restarted the Hobbit server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else going on
here?

-- 

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Click on it the host's test and click on history - was red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top right corner of the page once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out alerts
for the process check for a machine that was actually shown as green
on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the monitored machine, and the
alert was indeed green, yet the server was still sending out emails as
though it were in a yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on
the monitored machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the
server.  After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit server
process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and removed the
erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the problem.  It was only
after I restarted the Hobbit server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else going on
here?

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Yes, the alert history shows it went yellow and then 5 minutes later
recovered.  The web page is showing everything correct.  However, when
I check the notifications.log file, I can see that it was still
sending alerts about it being yellow, even though it was definitely
green.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Click on it the host's test and click on history - was red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top right corner of the page
once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out alerts
for the process check for a machine that was actually shown as green
on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the monitored machine, and the
alert was indeed green, yet the server was still sending out emails as
though it were in a yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on
the monitored machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the
server.  After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the
innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit server
process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and removed the
erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the problem.  It was only
after I restarted the Hobbit server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else going on
here?

--
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

On Nov 14, 2007 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:

You're saying it went yellow, then green.  The log tells you it sent an
alert when it was yellow.

I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem here =/  It sent an alert first when it
was yellow and another when it switch to green to inform you it recovered,
correct?


On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Yes, the alert history shows it went yellow and then 5 minutes later
recovered.  The web page is showing everything correct.  However, when
I check the notifications.log file, I can see that it was still
sending alerts about it being yellow, even though it was definitely
green.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Click on it the host's test and click on history - was red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top right corner of the page
once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha < user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out alerts
for the process check for a machine that was actually shown as green
on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the monitored machine, and the
alert was indeed green, yet the server was still sending out emails as
though it were in a yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on
the monitored machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the
server.  After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the
innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit server
process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and removed the
erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the problem.  It was only
after I restarted the Hobbit server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else going on
here?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Baluha [mailto:user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 16:30
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] stale alerts

Order of events:
1am: alert went yellow, email was sent out
1:15am: alert recovered
2am, and each additional hour: email was sent out saying alert was yellow (it was actually showing green)
10:30a: I restart Hobbit and get the "stale alert" message, and it finally stops sending alerts.  Recovery email was never sent out, even though it is in the alert rules.

On Nov 14, 2007 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:

You're saying it went yellow, then green.  The log tells you it sent > an alert when it was yellow.

I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem here =/  It sent an alert first > when it was yellow and another when it switch to green to inform you > it recovered, correct?


On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Yes, the alert history shows it went yellow and then 5 minutes later > > recovered.  The web page is showing everything correct.  However, > > when I check the notifications.log file, I can see that it was still > > sending alerts about it being yellow, even though it was definitely > > green.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman <user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Click on it the host's test and click on history - was red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top right corner of the > > > page
once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha < user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out > > > > alerts for the process check for a machine that was actually > > > > shown as green on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the > > > > monitored machine, and the alert was indeed green, yet the > > > > server was still sending out emails as though it were in a > > > > yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on the monitored > > > > machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the server.  > > > > After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the
innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit > > > > server process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and > > > > removed the erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the > > > > problem.  It was only after I restarted the Hobbit server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else > > > > going on here?

On 11/14/07, Gore, David W (David) <user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Baluha [mailto:user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 16:30
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] stale alerts

Order of events:
1am: alert went yellow, email was sent out
1:15am: alert recovered
2am, and each additional hour: email was sent out saying
alert was yellow (it was actually showing green)
10:30a: I restart Hobbit and get the "stale alert" message,
and it finally stops sending alerts.  Recovery email was
never sent out, even though it is in the alert rules.

On Nov 14, 2007 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman
<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:

You're saying it went yellow, then green.  The log tells
you it sent
an alert when it was yellow.

I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem here =/  It sent an alert first
when it was yellow and another when it switch to green to
inform you
it recovered, correct?


On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Yes, the alert history shows it went yellow and then 5
minutes later
recovered.  The web page is showing everything correct.  However,
when I check the notifications.log file, I can see that
it was still
sending alerts about it being yellow, even though it was
definitely
green.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman

<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>

wrote:

Click on it the host's test and click on history - was
red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top right
corner of the
page
once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha < user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server was sending out
alerts for the process check for a machine that was actually
shown as green on the hobbit  web page.  I checked on the
monitored machine, and the alert was indeed green, yet the
server was still sending out emails as though it were in a
yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client on the monitored
machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server on the server.
After doing this, I noticed the following in the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for host-name:procs dropped

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name" to protect the
innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I restarted the Hobbit
server process, I manually edited the alert.chk temp file and
removed the erroneous alert, but that didn't correct the
problem.  It was only after I restarted the Hobbit
server process that it cleared the alert.
Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there something else
going on here?

Gary,

We get those too, along with leftover semaphores and shared memory
segments when we stop the hobbit server.  The snapshot, seems much
better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing our display to
the far right of the screen we cannot use it right now.

~David

Ps. Just to let you know it's not just your setup.

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 17:18
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] stale alerts
	
	
	This has never happened to me - are the two of you using the
4.2.0 release?
	
	Josh
	 
	 
	On 11/14/07, Gore, David W (David) <

wrote: 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Baluha [mailto: user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 16:30
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] stale alerts

Order of events:
1am: alert went yellow, email was sent out
1:15am: alert recovered
2am, and each additional hour: email was sent out
saying
alert was yellow (it was actually showing green) 
10:30a: I restart Hobbit and get the "stale alert"
message,
and it finally stops sending alerts.  Recovery email
was
never sent out, even though it is in the alert rules.

On Nov 14, 2007 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman 
<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid> wrote:

You're saying it went yellow, then green.  The log
tells
you it sent
an alert when it was yellow. 

I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem here =/  It sent
an alert first
when it was yellow and another when it switch to
green to
inform you
it recovered, correct? 


On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha <user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

Yes, the alert history shows it went yellow and
then 5 
minutes later
recovered.  The web page is showing everything
correct.  However,
when I check the notifications.log file, I can see
that
it was still
sending alerts about it being yellow, even though
it was 
definitely
green.

On Nov 14, 2007 10:38 AM, Josh Luthman

<user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid>

wrote: 

Click on it the host's test and click on history

- was

red at all?

Are the WWW pages updating?  Look in the top
right
corner of the 
page
once
you click on the host's test link.


 On 11/14/07, Gary Baluha < user-ae3e15c22de1@xymon.invalid>
wrote:

I noticed this morning that our Hobbit server
was sending out 
alerts for the process check for a machine
that was actually
shown as green on the hobbit  web page.  I
checked on the
monitored machine, and the alert was indeed
green, yet the 
server was still sending out emails as though
it were in a
yellow state.  I restarted the Hobbit client
on the monitored
machine, and then restarted the Hobbit server
on the server. 
After doing this, I noticed the following in
the page.log
file:

2007-11-14 10:26:13 Stale alert for
host-name:procs dropped 

(I changed the actual host name to "host-name"
to protect the
innocent)
What exactly does this mean?  Before I
restarted the Hobbit 
server process, I manually edited the
alert.chk temp file and
removed the erroneous alert, but that didn't
correct the
problem.  It was only after I restarted the

Hobbit 

server process that it cleared the alert.

Is this a bug in the 4.2.0 code, or is there
something else
going on here?

		
		Gary,
		
		We get those too, along with leftover semaphores and
shared memory 
		segments when we stop the hobbit server.  The snapshot,
seems much
		better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing
our display to
		the far right of the screen we cannot use it right now.
		
		~David
		
		Ps. Just to let you know it's not just your setup.
		
		
	-- 
	Josh Luthman
	Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
	XXXX Wayne St
	Suite XXXX
	Troy, OH XXXXX
	
	Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly. 
	--- Henry Spencer

 
From: Gore, David W (David) [mailto:user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 13:47
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] stale alerts

 
I am running 4.2.0 with the allinone patch.  I do have a suspicion that
external server side scripts could contribute to the stale alerts.  In
my case, specifically a script that ssh's to a remote host and executes
a shell script on the remote host.  It may also happen in conjunction
with these errors in the logs, which someone else recently reported:

 
page.log.1:2007-11-05 16:20:53 hobbitd_alert: Got message 14425,
expected 14424

As soon as the issue with tooltips is resolved, I will be moving our
primary hobbit to the snapshot release.

 
The snapshot, seems much
better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing our display to
the far right of the screen we cannot use it right now.

~David

 
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 13:11
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] tooltips


	Re: the tooltips issue:

	 
	Isn't it useful to make this an option whether they should be
displayed on the bb2 page or not?

	 
	I really like the tooltips but I agree with David that they will
clutter your bb2 page so that this page is not longer usable...

	 
	Johann

	 
	From: Gore, David W (David)
[mailto:user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 13:47
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: RE: [hobbit] stale alerts

	 
	I am running 4.2.0 with the allinone patch.  I do have a
suspicion that external server side scripts could contribute to the
stale alerts.  In my case, specifically a script that ssh's to a remote
host and executes a shell script on the remote host.  It may also happen
in conjunction with these errors in the logs, which someone else
recently reported:

	 
	page.log.1:2007-11-05 16:20:53 hobbitd_alert: Got message 14425,
expected 14424

	As soon as the issue with tooltips is resolved, I will be moving
our primary hobbit to the snapshot release.

	 
	The snapshot, seems much
	better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing our
display to
	the far right of the screen we cannot use it right now.
	
	~David

<user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid> wrote:

I am running 4.2.0 with the allinone patch.  I do have a suspicion that
external server side scripts could contribute to the stale alerts.  In my
case, specifically a script that ssh's to a remote host and executes a shell
script on the remote host.  It may also happen in conjunction with these
errors in the logs, which someone else recently reported:

page.log.1:2007-11-05 16:20:53 hobbitd_alert: Got message 14425, expected
14424

As soon as the issue with tooltips is resolved, I will be moving our primary
hobbit to the snapshot release.
 ~David

From: Gore, David W (David) [mailto:user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid]
Sent: donderdag 15 november 2007 15:20
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] tooltips

In regards to the hobbit snapshot:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.  If the list server allows it, I have attached an image of my bb2.html page.  bb2 is our primary view and, as you can see from the image, tooltips pushes all the hobbit columns out of the view to the right.

Tooltips are the text you see when you hover over items like the smiley's in hobbit?  I suppose it has always worked well for the little smiley gif icons, just not so well for the bb2 host links where it seems to add the tooltip to the hostname rather than create floating text.

~David


From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 13:11
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] tooltips

Re: the tooltips issue:

Isn't it useful to make this an option whether they should be displayed on the bb2 page or not?

I really like the tooltips but I agree with David that they will clutter your bb2 page so that this page is not longer usable...

Johann

From: Gore, David W (David) [mailto:user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 13:47
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] stale alerts

I am running 4.2.0 with the allinone patch.  I do have a suspicion that external server side scripts could contribute to the stale alerts.  In my case, specifically a script that ssh's to a remote host and executes a shell script on the remote host.  It may also happen in conjunction with these errors in the logs, which someone else recently reported:

page.log.1:2007-11-05 16:20:53 hobbitd_alert: Got message 14425, expected 14424
As soon as the issue with tooltips is resolved, I will be moving our primary hobbit to the snapshot release.


The snapshot, seems much
better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing our display to
the far right of the screen we cannot use it right now.

~David

On Tue, May 19, 2015 7:00 am, Bruno Deschamps wrote:

Hi,


Im looking in my alerts.log file and there is some Stale alerts like this:


2015-05-18 10:23:55 Stale alert for xxx:updates dropped
2015-05-18 10:23:55 Stale alert for xxx:cpu dropped
2015-05-18 10:23:55 Stale alert for xxx:procs dropped
2015-05-18 10:23:55 Stale alert for xxx:msgs dropped
2015-05-18 10:23:55 Stale alert for xxx:files dropped

What means this Stale alert? Why this happens and how to avoid this
messages?