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Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

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list Tech Support · Fri, 9 Dec 2016 07:11:50 -0800 ·
I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the correct updated date.  The SSL certs were applied correctly to the IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates, but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer
list Scot Kreienkamp · Fri, 9 Dec 2016 15:38:11 +0000 ·
What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on the command line?


Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate
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Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM
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Subject: [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the correct updated date.  The SSL certs were applied correctly to the IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates, but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer

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list Tech Support · Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:28:30 -0800 ·
The curl command shows the date accurately.

Thank you.


Kris Springer


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quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
On 12/9/2016 7:38 AM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on the command line?

*Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate*
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid

*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Tech Support
quoted from Scot Kreienkamp
*Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the correct updated date.  The SSL certs were applied correctly to the IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates, but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer

list Japheth Cleaver · Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:49:00 -0800 ·
Was the curl test done from the same Linux server as xymon or a different ont?

Xymon's network tester (xymonnet) is completely re-executed for each run, so there's not very much that can be cached on the polling system that could cause it to return an older set. Is the test timestamp up to date on the actual test in question?

Also: Which version of xymon are you running, and is the site using SNI by any chance?

-jc
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On 12/9/2016 8:28 AM, Tech Support wrote:
The curl command shows the date accurately.

Thank you.


Kris Springer


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On 12/9/2016 7:38 AM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on the command line?

*Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate*
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid

*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Tech Support
*Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the correct updated date.  The SSL certs were applied correctly to the IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates, but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer

list Tech Support · Fri, 9 Dec 2016 09:15:23 -0800 ·
Yes, curl test is from Xymon server.

Yes, timestamp of Xymon test is current.

Xymon version 4.3.25
Ubuntu 16.04

Regarding SNI, the site in question is IIS, not Apache.  The cert is a wildcard for our domain so it shows as *.domainname.com
quoted from Japheth Cleaver

Thank you.


Kris Springer


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On 12/9/2016 8:49 AM, Japheth Cleaver wrote:
Was the curl test done from the same Linux server as xymon or a different ont?

Xymon's network tester (xymonnet) is completely re-executed for each run, so there's not very much that can be cached on the polling system that could cause it to return an older set. Is the test timestamp up to date on the actual test in question?

Also: Which version of xymon are you running, and is the site using SNI by any chance?

-jc


On 12/9/2016 8:28 AM, Tech Support wrote:
The curl command shows the date accurately.

Thank you.


Kris Springer


Signature - Support
On 12/9/2016 7:38 AM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on the command line?

*Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate*
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX | | Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid

*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Tech Support
*Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the correct updated date. The SSL certs were applied correctly to the IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates, but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer

list Phil Crooker · Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:03:01 +0000 ·
The old certificate is probably still enabled for a service somewhere - we had a similar issue where the old certificate was in fact enabled for a service but this was only evident after a reboot. Why don't you just remove it from the windows system? 
quoted from Tech Support
 

From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> on behalf of Tech Support <user-800263fcb636@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2016 3:45 AM
To: Japheth Cleaver; Scot Kreienkamp; Xymon MailingList
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

Yes, curl test is from Xymon server.

Yes, timestamp of Xymon test is current.

Xymon version 4.3.25
Ubuntu 16.04

Regarding SNI, the site in question is IIS, not Apache.  The cert is a
wildcard for our domain so it shows as *.domainname.com

Thank you.


Kris Springer


Signature - Support
On 12/9/2016 8:49 AM, Japheth Cleaver wrote:
Was the curl test done from the same Linux server as xymon or a
different ont?

Xymon's network tester (xymonnet) is completely re-executed for each
run, so there's not very much that can be cached on the polling system
that could cause it to return an older set. Is the test timestamp up
to date on the actual test in question?

Also: Which version of xymon are you running, and is the site using
SNI by any chance?

-jc


On 12/9/2016 8:28 AM, Tech Support wrote:
The curl command shows the date accurately.

Thank you.


Kris Springer


Signature - Support
On 12/9/2016 7:38 AM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on
the command line?

*Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate*
One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX |
| Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid

*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Tech
Support
*Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* Xymon MailingList
*Subject:* [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing

I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing
the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and
expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our
servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS
servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon
tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the
correct updated date. The SSL certs were applied correctly to the
IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates,
but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is
running IIS 8.5

Thanks.
Kris Springer

list Tech Support · Mon, 12 Dec 2016 06:46:32 -0800 ·
RESOLVED:  For closure to this issue, here's what resolved it.  I manually deleted the old cert from the server and rebooted.  This particular server also functions as a Remote Desktop Management server, which start throwing cert warnings to RD users after I deleted the old cert.  I looked in the 'RD Gateway Manager' and sure enough, the new cert was not applied.  So I applied the new cert and immediately Xymon's HTTPS tests went green.  I'm confused as to why this RD Gateway cert would have anything to do with IIS tests failing for Xymon because as I've said in previous posts all browsers recognized the new cert in IIS just fine.  Only Xymon tests had an issue.

Final comments:  It's a good thing that the Xymon tests were flagging that something was wrong, because it forced me to dig deeper into our server to resolve an unseen issue.  Thank you Xymon community for supplying ideas for me to look into.

Thank you.
Kris Springer

quoted from Phil CrookerOn 12/11/2016 3:03 PM, Phil Crooker wrote:
The old certificate is probably still enabled for a service somewhere - we had a similar issue where the old certificate was in fact enabled for a service but this was only evident after a reboot. Why don't you just remove it from the windows system? 

 



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From: Xymon  on behalf of Tech Support 

Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2016 3:45 AM

To: Japheth Cleaver; Scot Kreienkamp; Xymon MailingList

Subject: Re: [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing



Yes, curl test is from Xymon server.



Yes, timestamp of Xymon test is current.



Xymon version 4.3.25

Ubuntu 16.04



Regarding SNI, the site in question is IIS, not Apache.  The cert is a

wildcard for our domain so it shows as *.domainname.com



Thank you.



------------------------------------------------



Kris Springer





Signature - Support

On 12/9/2016 8:49 AM, Japheth Cleaver wrote:

Was the curl test done from the same Linux server as xymon or a

different ont?



Xymon's network tester (xymonnet) is completely re-executed for each

run, so there's not very much that can be cached on the polling system

that could cause it to return an older set. Is the test timestamp up

to date on the actual test in question?



Also: Which version of xymon are you running, and is the site using

SNI by any chance?



-jc





On 12/9/2016 8:28 AM, Tech Support wrote:

The curl command shows the date accurately.



Thank you.



------------------------------------------------



Kris Springer





Signature - Support

On 12/9/2016 7:38 AM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:


What does it say for dates if you examine the cert with curl –v on

the command line?



*Scot Kreienkamp  | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate*

One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX |

| Mobile: XXXXXXXXXX | Email: user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid



*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces@xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Tech
quoted from Phil Crooker

Support

*Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 10:12 AM

*To:* Xymon MailingList

*Subject:* [Xymon] Updated SSL cert expiration date not refreshing



I recently renewed some SSL certs for our domain.  Xymon was testing

the https addresses and was correctly showing the ciphers and

expiration date.  But after I renewed and applied the certs to our

servers Xymon still shows the old expiration date on one of our IIS

servers, not the new date.  The issue is only appearing when Xymon

tests our IIS server, not a different Linux server which shows the

correct updated date. The SSL certs were applied correctly to the

IIS server and all browsers and external tests show accurate dates,

but not Xymon.  Any idea why this would occur?  IIS server is

running IIS 8.5



Thanks.

Kris Springer








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