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Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results

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list Joe Birney Jr · Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:46:16 -0500 ·
Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well
as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will
report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has
pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message
saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task
manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe
still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more
instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event
viewer we will usually see: 
The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute
ipconfig /all  

But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run
this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to
kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run
and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last
for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random.
Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor
that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! 
Jb
list Odinn · Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:57:28 -0800 (PST) ·
This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 --


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quoted from Joe Birney Jr


From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results


Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event viewer we will usually see: 
The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute ipconfig /all   
But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random. Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks!  
Jb
list Joe Birney Jr · Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:46:48 -0500 ·
Thanks for the feedback. We had to install Hobbit on about 40 servers.
We ended up scripting the install to make life easier and ensure all of
the servers got the same version, installed the same day, ect. We also
made sure that the we had set the mode on the citrix box to install
before we ran the script. 
 
Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a
verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run
the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as...
We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different
account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other
data would be persevered. But no luck :(
 
Jb
quoted from Odinn


From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results


This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 
--


Jim Sloan


Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be
yesterday. 


From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working =
Purple results


Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well
as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will
report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has
pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message
saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task
manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe
still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more
instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event
viewer we will usually see: 

The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute
ipconfig /all  

But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run
this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to
kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run
and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last
for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random.
Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor
that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! 
Jb
list Odinn · Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:10:54 -0800 (PST) ·
what client are you running on the Windows systems? BBWin v.?
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Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be yesterday.


quoted from Joe Birney Jr
From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 2:46:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results

 Thanks for the feedback. We had to install Hobbit on about 40 servers. We ended up scripting the install to make life easier and ensure all of the servers got the same version, installed the same day, ect. We also made sure that the we had set the mode on the citrix box to install before we ran the script.  Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as... We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other data would be persevered. But no luck :(
 Jb


 From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results


This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 --


Jim Sloan


Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be yesterday. 


 From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results


Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event viewer we will usually see: The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute ipconfig /all  But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random. Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! Jb
list Malcolm Hunter · Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:11:35 +0100 ·
quoted from Odinn
Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a
verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run
the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as...
We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different
account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other
data would be persevered. But no luck :(
You can run bbwin.exe --debug from the command line but I'm not sure whether that will help. I'm surprised that bbwin is shelling out to call route, ipconfig and netstat but then some of the other code isn't that great either.

Malcolm

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list Joe Birney Jr · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:57:07 -0500 ·
Folks,
all servers are running Win2003 w/SP 2 as the OS.
BBWin is version 0.12
quoted from Odinn


From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:11 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results


what client are you running on the Windows systems? BBWin v.?
 
--


Jim Sloan


Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be
yesterday. 


From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 2:46:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results


Thanks for the feedback. We had to install Hobbit on about 40 servers.
We ended up scripting the install to make life easier and ensure all of
the servers got the same version, installed the same day, ect. We also
made sure that the we had set the mode on the citrix box to install
before we ran the script. 
 
Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a
verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run
the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as...
We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different
account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other
data would be persevered. But no luck :(
 
Jb


From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results


This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 
--


Jim Sloan


Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be
yesterday. 


From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working =
Purple results


Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well
as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will
report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has
pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message
saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task
manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe
still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more
instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event
viewer we will usually see: 

The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute
ipconfig /all  

But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run
this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to
kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run
and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last
for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random.
Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor
that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! 
Jb
list Jim Sloan · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:50:03 -0500 ·
Are you running BBWin in local or central mode?

 
Do you have any external scripts running besides the defaults?

 
BBWin shouldn't be executing ipconfig or netstat

 
In the bbwin.cfg change the following line

<setting name="loglevel" value="0">

Change 0 to 1

 
No need to restart as bbwin will restart on a change of the cfg file.

 
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quoted from Joe Birney Jr

 
From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 [mailto:user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

 
Folks,

all servers are running Win2003 w/SP 2 as the OS.

BBWin is version 0.12

 
From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:11 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

what client are you running on the Windows systems? BBWin v.?
 

--

Jim Sloan

 
Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be
yesterday. 

 
From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 2:46:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

Thanks for the feedback. We had to install Hobbit on about 40 servers.
We ended up scripting the install to make life easier and ensure all of
the servers got the same version, installed the same day, ect. We also
made sure that the we had set the mode on the citrix box to install
before we ran the script. 

 
Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a
verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run
the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as...
We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different
account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other
data would be persevered. But no luck :(

 
Jb

 
From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 

--

Jim Sloan

 
Just remember, today is the day you thought tomorrow was going to be
yesterday. 

 
From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working =
Purple results

Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well
as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will
report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has
pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message
saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task
manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe
still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more
instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event
viewer we will usually see: 

The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute
ipconfig /all  

But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run
this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to
kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run
and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last
for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random.
Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor
that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! 
Jb
list Malcolm Hunter · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:03:04 +0100 ·
quoted from Jim Sloan
Are you running BBWin in local or central mode?

 
Do you have any external scripts running besides the defaults?

 
BBWin shouldn't be executing ipconfig or netstat
BBWin does shell out and call ipconfig and netstat. However, I could only find netstat.tmp being generated in %TEMP%. I think it runs these in both central and local modes.
quoted from Malcolm Hunter

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list Joe Birney Jr · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:40:50 -0500 ·
Folks
I had enabled most versbose logging in order to see if this helps to
show what is going on one of the servers. This is the output:
 
009/12/21 14:46:40 [DEBUG]: [svcs]: start AgentSvcs::InitCentralMode
2009/12/21 14:46:40 [DEBUG]: [svcs]: checking file c:\Program
Files\BBWin\tmp\clientlocal.cfg
2009/12/21 14:46:40 [DEBUG]: [svcs]: reading file c:\Program
Files\BBWin\tmp\clientlocal.cfg
2009/12/21 14:49:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [cpu]: cpu review started
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [cpu]: cpu review ended
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [disk]: drive string C:\
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [disk]: drive string D:\
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [disk]: drive string E:\
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [disk]: drive string V:\
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [disk]: drive string X:\
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: start AgentMsgs::InitCentralMode
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: checking file c:\Program
Files\BBWin\tmp\clientlocal.cfg
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: reading file c:\Program
Files\BBWin\tmp\clientlocal.cfg
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will use maxdata size : 10240
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : is an invalid print
stream
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : permission settings
do not grant
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Office Document Image
Writer
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : warning
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Warning
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Print
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : print
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : pages printed
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : perflib
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Perflib
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : AutoEnrollment
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : LoadPerf
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will use maxdata size : 10240
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore :
BigBrotherHobbitClient
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore :
bigbrotherhobbitclient
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : cccredmgr
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : userenv
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Userenv
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : warning
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Warning
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Windows saved user 
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Windows cannot unload
your classes registry file
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will use maxdata size : 10240
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Restricted Sid Count
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : auditable protected
data
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Backup of data
protection master key
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : success
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Success
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : process
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Destination DRA
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : The description for
Event ID
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Handle Closed
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Logon attempt
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Successful Network
Logon
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : User Logoff
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Service Ticket
Renewed
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Service Ticket
Request
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Authentication Ticket
Request
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will use maxdata size : 10240
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Health
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : health
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : Information
2009/12/21 14:51:41 [DEBUG]: [msgs]: will ignore : failed
2009/12/21 14:52:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 14:55:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 14:58:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:01:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:04:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:07:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:10:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:13:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:16:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:19:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:22:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:25:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:28:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:31:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:34:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:37:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:40:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:43:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:46:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:49:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:52:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:55:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 15:58:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:01:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:04:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:07:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:10:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:13:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:16:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:19:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:22:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
2009/12/21 16:25:05 [DEBUG]: [externals]: starting external 'cmd /c
..\ext\termusers\termusers.bat'
 
 
Then it just keeps going like that until we correct it. I can try to
disable the external script (that is suppose to report the number of
Terminal users back to hobbit).
 
I want to double check to make sure I anser the local vrs central mode.
 
One thing I thought, could something else running on the server cause
issues with hobbit (maybe another tool/script is causing the crash and
holding hobbit up)?
quoted from Jim Sloan


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To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results


Are you running BBWin in local or central mode?

 
Do you have any external scripts running besides the defaults?

 
BBWin shouldn't be executing ipconfig or netstat

 
In the bbwin.cfg change the following line

<setting name="loglevel" value="0">

Change 0 to 1

 
No need to restart as bbwin will restart on a change of the cfg file.

 
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From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 [mailto:user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

 
Folks,

all servers are running Win2003 w/SP 2 as the OS.

BBWin is version 0.12

 
From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:11 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

what client are you running on the Windows systems? BBWin v.?
 

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From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 2:46:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

Thanks for the feedback. We had to install Hobbit on about 40 servers.
We ended up scripting the install to make life easier and ensure all of
the servers got the same version, installed the same day, ect. We also
made sure that the we had set the mode on the citrix box to install
before we ran the script. 

 
Is there any way that we can get Hobbit to run the commands in more of a
verbose mode? We would love to see the cmd window that it spawns to run
the netstat or ipconfig commands so we can see what its hanging up as...
We tried to change one of the servers so bbwin runs as with a different
account and left that account logged in hoping a CMD window or other
data would be persevered. But no luck :(

 
Jb

 
From: Odinn [mailto:user-385fc81b8782@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:57 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working
= Purple results

This sounds like an issue with the client, not the server.
 

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From: Birney Jr Joe-FJB047 <user-8b72302a7dee@xymon.invalid>
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:46:16 AM
Subject: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working =
Purple results

Folks,
we have three dell power edge 2950s that are running a Win2k3 OS as well
as the Citrix Xenapp (version 5.0). What we see is that Hobbit will
report the basic test purple (CPU, Disk, Mem, ect) after some time has
pasted. When we logon to the systems we usually see a crash message
saying that either route.exe or netstat has crashed. Checking the task
manger on these boxes shows we can have a mix of netstat and route.exe
still running (some times its just one, other there are 2 or more
instances, or just one of them running, ect). Looking at the event
viewer we will usually see: 

The agent stats generated this event message : failed to execute
ipconfig /all  

But no other error indications on those boxes. And of course when we run
this ipconfig command it works all the time for us. The simple fix is to
kill any an all netstat.exe, route.exe and cmd windows they tried to run
and then the servers go back to green. Problem is they will only last
for some time until they go purple. And the time it takes is random.
Finally we have 6 other Citrix servers all configured in the same manor
that do NOT exhibit this behavior.

So any ideas on how to find out why netstat/route keep crashing?

Thanks! 
Jb
list Joe Birney Jr · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:42:11 -0500 ·
Malcolm,
Thanks for your input! Are you saying that there is a netstat.tmp file that may still be in the %TEMP% dir? If so I can look for it to see if there is anything in that file that may shed light on this issue.

Thanks again!
Jb 
quoted from Malcolm Hunter

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Hunter [mailto:user-b3e590ffeb6d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:03 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results
Are you running BBWin in local or central mode?

 
Do you have any external scripts running besides the defaults?

 
BBWin shouldn't be executing ipconfig or netstat
BBWin does shell out and call ipconfig and netstat. However, I could only find netstat.tmp being generated in %TEMP%. I think it runs these in both central and local modes.

Malcolm

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list Malcolm Hunter · Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:09:59 +0100 ·
quoted from Joe Birney Jr
Malcolm,
Thanks for your input! Are you saying that there is a netstat.tmp file
that may still be in the %TEMP% dir? If so I can look for it to see if there
is anything in that file that may shed light on this issue.
Yes, it should contain the output from netstat -s.

Also, I suggest disabling the external script to see if that helps.

Regards,
quoted from Joe Birney Jr

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list Joe Birney Jr · Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:48:30 -0500 ·
Malcolm,
Thanks again for your inputs. We removed the ext script and that did not help. 

Looking into the BBWIN\tmp dir we see that there was a msg file that seems it was hung up. As soon as we killed one of the CMD process we saw running, the file was sent and then the stats went green. The file was msg.servername.number (where number looked like a randomly generated 4 digit value). Before we killed that process we saw that last line of this file had data about ports in it:

[ports]

Active Connections 

Nothing else looked out of place in the file!

So at this point should we try something like process explorer to see were that CMD is coming from that's holding that msg file?
quoted from Malcolm Hunter

Jb


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From: Malcolm Hunter [mailto:user-b3e590ffeb6d@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:10 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results
Malcolm,
Thanks for your input! Are you saying that there is a netstat.tmp file
that may still be in the %TEMP% dir? If so I can look for it to see if there
is anything in that file that may shed light on this issue.
Yes, it should contain the output from netstat -s.

Also, I suggest disabling the external script to see if that helps.

Regards,

Malcolm


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list Malcolm Hunter · Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:09:00 +0100 ·
quoted from Joe Birney Jr
Thanks again for your inputs. We removed the ext script and that did not
help. 

Looking into the BBWIN\tmp dir we see that there was a msg file that seems
it was hung up. As soon as we killed one of the CMD process we saw
running, the file was sent and then the stats went green. The file was
msg.servername.number (where number looked like a randomly generated 4 digit value).
Before we killed that process we saw that last line of this file had data
about ports in it:

[ports]

Active Connections 

Nothing else looked out of place in the file!

So at this point should we try something like process explorer to see were
that CMD is coming from that's holding that msg file?
You'll probably find that it's spawned by BBwin. Have you tried running BBwin in local mode instead of central? One of the reasons I switched from using central mode was it's so buggy.
quoted from Joe Birney Jr

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list Joe Birney Jr · Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:43:00 -0500 ·
Folks,
Just wanted to close the loop on this one. We changed a few of the servers from Central to local mode and ran them for a few weeks. We did not have a single crash or issue. We then converted the rest of the Citrix boxes over to use local and still no crashing. Thanks again for all your time/help (esp you Malcolm).
quoted from Joe Birney Jr

Jb 
-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Hunter [mailto:user-b3e590ffeb6d@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:03 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: RE: [hobbit] Route/Netstat Crashing and/or Ipconfig Not Working = Purple results
Are you running BBWin in local or central mode?

 
Do you have any external scripts running besides the defaults?

 
BBWin shouldn't be executing ipconfig or netstat
BBWin does shell out and call ipconfig and netstat. However, I could only find netstat.tmp being generated in %TEMP%. I think it runs these in both central and local modes.

Malcolm

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