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graphing help please

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list Mike · Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:12:40 -0500 ·
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all
my platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I
have the script running as a test on my local, windows
workstation. The status seems to be reporting properly from
the script through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What
I want to see next is a graph of these values. The current
value is the simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting
notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm
sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike
list Mike · Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:45:57 +0000 (UTC) ·
quoted from Mike
On 2006-09-25, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all
my platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I
have the script running as a test on my local, windows
workstation. The status seems to be reporting properly from
the script through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What
I want to see next is a graph of these values. The current
value is the simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting
notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm
sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike

I have found the hobbit-graph.cfg file. I'm trying to plot the
load percentage for the cpu. I have one line that's going in like:

status HOST.cpu green
 12:00:50 up 7 days, 20:38,  0 users,  load average: 20 0 0

Then another line that is:

data HOST.cpu 20

I'm wanting the 20 above, 20% of the cpu, to be plotted.
list Buchan Milne · Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:30:16 +0200 ·
quoted from Mike
On Monday 25 September 2006 19:45, Mike wrote:
On 2006-09-25, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all
my platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I
have the script
which script?
running as a test on my local, windows 
workstation.
Which client are you using ?
quoted from Mike
The status seems to be reporting properly from 
the script through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What
I want to see next is a graph of these values. The current
value is the simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting
notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm
sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike

I have found the hobbit-graph.cfg file.
You shouldn't need to touch anything here.
quoted from Mike
I'm trying to plot the 
load percentage for the cpu. I have one line that's going in like:

status HOST.cpu green
 12:00:50 up 7 days, 20:38,  0 users,  load average: 20 0 0

Then another line that is:

data HOST.cpu 20

I'm wanting the 20 above, 20% of the cpu, to be plotted.
I have only used the bbwin client for windows (bbwin.sf.net), not the Big 
Brother NT client. The bbwin client reports CPU usage to hobbit in the 
correct format for it to be graphed.

Please provide some real details of what you are running on this client, if 
you're not running bbwin. On all the unix hosts, the hobbit client should be 
used ...

Regards,
Buchan

-- 
Buchan Milne
ISP Systems Specialist
B.Eng,RHCE(803004789010797),LPIC-2(LPI000074592)
list Mike · Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:55:46 +0000 (UTC) ·
On 2006-09-26, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:
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quoted from Mike

On Monday 25 September 2006 19:45, Mike wrote:
On 2006-09-25, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all
my platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I
have the script
which script?
I am in a small development site that has one of many different platforms. I
have written a script in tcl that should/will run on all platforms to gather
the monitoring data. The tcl script is what I mention above. I'm happy to release
my tcl script once it is complete.
running as a test on my local, windows=20
workstation.
Which client are you using ?
I am using the tcl script I mention above. I know the script is working as I
do get status messages from the tcl client into hobbitd on one of my linux
boxes.
The status seems to be reporting properly from=20
quoted from Buchan Milne
the script through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What
I want to see next is a graph of these values. The current
value is the simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting
notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm
sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike

I have found the hobbit-graph.cfg file.
You shouldn't need to touch anything here.
I agree, though I do not understand why the graphs are not showing up.
I'm trying to plot the=20
quoted from Buchan Milne
load percentage for the cpu. I have one line that's going in like:

status HOST.cpu green
 12:00:50 up 7 days, 20:38,  0 users,  load average: 20 0 0

Then another line that is:

data HOST.cpu 20

I'm wanting the 20 above, 20% of the cpu, to be plotted.
I have only used the bbwin client for windows (bbwin.sf.net), not the Big=20
Brother NT client. The bbwin client reports CPU usage to hobbit in the=20
correct format for it to be graphed.
I like the bbwin on windows, but I want to run the same client everywhere,
hence the tcl script.
Please provide some real details of what you are running on this client, if=
=20
you're not running bbwin. On all the unix hosts, the hobbit client should b=
e=20
used ...
I would like to use the hobbit client, but I do not want to compile the
client on every box. Compiling the client on every box is one of the few
weaknesses I find in hobbit. The hobbit clients do work on the three boxes
where they are used, graphs appear, etc. Status messages, events, etc., do
appear on hobbit from my tcl script, but graphs do not. I'm using a recent
hobbit, if not the latest. Hobbitd runs on a linux box (fedora core 5). The
other two linux boxes are of red hat flavor of different versions. When
in full production the client will report the status of irix, hp-ux, solaris,
windows xp, windows xp 64-bit, mac os x, dec, etc. I am happy to release my
script when it is complete.

Mike
list Jason Altrincham Jones · Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:21:06 +0100 ·
Hi all,

Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up? If so
how?

Thanks,
Jason
list Larry Barber · Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:10:59 -0500 ·
Did you try the NOPROPACK tag in bb-hosts?

Thanks,
Larry Barber
quoted from Jason Altrincham Jones

On 9/26/06, Jones, Jason (Altrincham) <user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi all,

Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up? If so
how?

Thanks,
Jason

list Charles Jones · Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:09:03 -0700 ·
Ironically I have the opposite problem. When I ack an alert on a sub page, the ack does not propogate up to the status on the main page(s). I sent a message about this a week or so ago, and someone else indicated they had the same problem, but thats all that came of it.

-Charles
quoted from Larry Barber

Larry Barber wrote:
Did you try the NOPROPACK tag in bb-hosts?

Thanks,
Larry Barber

On 9/26/06, *Jones, Jason (Altrincham)* < user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up? If so
    how?

    Thanks,
    Jason

list Dominique Frise · Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:47:43 +0200 ·
quoted from Charles Jones
Charles Jones wrote:
Ironically I have the opposite problem. When I ack an alert on a sub page, the ack does not propogate up to the status on the main page(s). I sent a message about this a week or so ago, and someone else indicated they had the same problem, but thats all that came of it.

-Charles

Larry Barber wrote:
Did you try the NOPROPACK tag in bb-hosts?

Thanks,
Larry Barber

On 9/26/06, *Jones, Jason (Altrincham)* < user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid <mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up? If so
    how?

    Thanks,
    Jason

I can confirm ;-)


Dominique
UNIL - University of Lausanne
list Jason Altrincham Jones · Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:03:55 +0100 ·
How have you set up these subpages? Little embarrassing really I used
the noprop stuff to stop yellow message alerts propagating just never
thought of looking for the nopropack :( anyways I've used subpage,
subparent, alternate pagesets etc. and never had a problem with errors
not propagating.
Jason.
quoted from Dominique Frise
-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Frise [mailto:user-78ab6673b600@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 27 September 2006 07:48
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Stop ack'd alerts propagating

Charles Jones wrote:
Ironically I have the opposite problem. When I ack an alert on a sub 
page, the ack does not propogate up to the status on the main page(s).
I 
sent a message about this a week or so ago, and someone else indicated
they had the same problem, but thats all that came of it.

-Charles

Larry Barber wrote:
Did you try the NOPROPACK tag in bb-hosts?

Thanks,
Larry Barber

On 9/26/06, *Jones, Jason (Altrincham)* < user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid 
<mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up?
If so
    how?

    Thanks,
    Jason

I can confirm ;-)


Dominique
UNIL - University of Lausanne
list Dominique Frise · Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:09:26 +0200 ·
quoted from Jason Altrincham Jones
Jones, Jason (Altrincham) wrote:
How have you set up these subpages? Little embarrassing really I used
the noprop stuff to stop yellow message alerts propagating just never
thought of looking for the nopropack :( anyways I've used subpage,
subparent, alternate pagesets etc. and never had a problem with errors
not propagating.
Jason.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Frise [mailto:user-78ab6673b600@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 27 September 2006 07:48
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Stop ack'd alerts propagating

Charles Jones wrote:
Ironically I have the opposite problem. When I ack an alert on a sub 
page, the ack does not propogate up to the status on the main page(s).
I 
sent a message about this a week or so ago, and someone else indicated
they had the same problem, but thats all that came of it.

-Charles

Larry Barber wrote:
Did you try the NOPROPACK tag in bb-hosts?

Thanks,
Larry Barber

On 9/26/06, *Jones, Jason (Altrincham)* < user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid 
<mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Anyone had any luck stopped acknowledged alerts propagating up?
If so
    how?

    Thanks,
    Jason

I can confirm ;-)


Dominique
UNIL - University of Lausanne

Our layout is pretty simple (no subpages/subparent/alternate pageset): from the 
main view, we have only on level of pages.

#
#
Main view
#
#
title Unil Services
#
page unilServAAL AAI, AD, LDAP
title Unil Services
group-only auth|conn|ldap Unil AAI, AD, LDAP
page unilServDNS DNS
title Unil Services
group-only conn|dns Unil DNS
page unilServMail Mail
title Unil Services
group-only conn|http|imaps|pop3s|smtp|webmail Unil Mail
page unilServWeb Web
title Unil Services
group-only conn|http Unil Web
title Academic Services
page acadBackupServ Backup
#
title Academic Services
#
group-only conn|nsr Backup

and so on...

An acked red alert from any page (ex. conn test on unilServDNS) is not 
propagated on the main view (red icon for unilServDNS summary stays unacked)


Dominique
UNIL - University of Lausanne
list Jason Altrincham Jones · Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:25:17 +0100 ·
quoted from Dominique Frise
#
Main view
#
#
title Unil Services
#
page unilServAAL AAI, AD, LDAP 
title Unil Services
group-only auth|conn|ldap Unil AAI, AD, LDAP
page unilServDNS DNS 
title Unil Services
group-only conn|dns Unil DNS
page unilServMail Mail 
title Unil Services
group-only conn|http|imaps|pop3s|smtp|webmail Unil Mail
page unilServWeb Web
title Unil Services
group-only conn|http Unil Web
title Academic Services
page acadBackupServ Backup 
#
title Academic Services
#
group-only conn|nsr Backup
and so on...
An acked red alert from any page (ex. conn test on unilServDNS) is not 
propagated on the main view (red icon for unilServDNS summary stays
unacked)
Can you send me a screenshot of your layout? (can of course black out
names/IP addresses if you wish) also is this your bb-hosts file?
list Mike · Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) ·
quoted from Mike
On 2006-09-26, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On 2006-09-26, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:
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On Monday 25 September 2006 19:45, Mike wrote:
On 2006-09-25, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all
my platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I
have the script
which script?
I am in a small development site that has one of many different platforms. I
have written a script in tcl that should/will run on all platforms to gather
the monitoring data. The tcl script is what I mention above. I'm happy to release
my tcl script once it is complete.
running as a test on my local, windows=20
workstation.
Which client are you using ?
I am using the tcl script I mention above. I know the script is working as I
do get status messages from the tcl client into hobbitd on one of my linux
boxes.
The status seems to be reporting properly from=20
the script through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What
I want to see next is a graph of these values. The current
value is the simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting
notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm
sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike

I have found the hobbit-graph.cfg file.
You shouldn't need to touch anything here.
I agree, though I do not understand why the graphs are not showing up.
Seems the data is not making it to rrd. Is there a log file somewhere
that might show why the data is not parsed or not making it to rrd?

Mike
list Francesco Duranti · Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:08:46 +0200 ·
The data to be graphed can come also in the status message and not only
in data messages.
The way you send data I think is wrong, you cannot send more messages in
one like it could be done with combo messages of bb you've to send one
message at a time and to graph cpu the better think you can do is to see
exactly what is sended to hobbit by the client cpu module and send
exactly the same thing. For example:
If you send a status message that contains:
Thu Sep 28 12:04:17 2006 up: 9 days, 19:07 CPU Usage= 78% 
The cpu rrd module will get the CPU Usage and put the number into the
rrd.

If you know a bit of C you can check the source in hobbitd/rrd to check
what the various rrd modules want to get as data.
To get data out of data message and into rrd you also need to define
what to get from there via ncv for example.

Francesco
quoted from Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:user-6269d477d278@xymon.invalid] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:06 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Re: graphing help please

On 2006-09-26, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On 2006-09-26, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:
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On Monday 25 September 2006 19:45, Mike wrote:
On 2006-09-25, Mike <user-b6f75e481c45@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I have hobbit setup and am working on a script to monitor all my >>> > platforms (redhat, solaris, irix, tru64, windows, etc). I have the >>> > script
which script?
I am in a small development site that has one of many different > platforms. I have written a script in tcl that should/will run on all > platforms to gather the monitoring data. The tcl script is what I > mention above. I'm happy to release my tcl script once it is complete.
running as a test on my local, windows=20 workstation.
Which client are you using ?
I am using the tcl script I mention above. I know the script is > working as I do get status messages from the tcl client into hobbitd > on one of my linux boxes.
The status seems to be reporting properly from=20 the script >>> > through the bb2.html page on to notifications. What I want to see >>> > next is a graph of these values. The current value is the >>> > simulated one minute load percentage from windows.
I know this value is being sent to hobbitd since I'm getting >>> > notifications based on the colors (clear/green/yellow/red) I'm >>> > sending to hobbitd.

Do I need to cycle hobbitd?

Mike
I have found the hobbit-graph.cfg file.
You shouldn't need to touch anything here.
I agree, though I do not understand why the graphs are not showing up.
Seems the data is not making it to rrd. Is there a log file somewhere that might show why the data is not parsed or not making it to rrd?

Mike