Windows Client
list Stew Lambert
Hello all, I'm trying to create a hobbit client for windows. Can someone tell me how the info is to be sent? Possibly a format. Should it be sent via a file or straight connection. Any ideas would be great. Thanks, Stew P.S. I know this has been said before, but.. Many, Many, Many THANKS for all your work Henrik
list Daniel J McDonald
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On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 13:30 -0500, Stew Lambert wrote:
Hello all, I’m trying to create a hobbit client for windows. Can someone tell me how the info is to be sent?
tcp port 1984
Possibly a format.
Documented in the man pages: http://yourhobbitserver/hobbit/help/manpages/man1/bb.1.html
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Should it be sent via a file or straight connection. Any ideas would be great. Thanks, Stew P.S. I know this has been said before, but…. Many, Many, Many THANKS for all your work Henrik
list Stew Lambert
Thanks for the info. It was a great help.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel J McDonald [mailto:user-290ce4e24e19@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Hobbit List
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows Client
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 13:30 -0500, Stew Lambert wrote:Hello all, I'm trying to create a hobbit client for windows. Can someone tell me how the info is to be sent?
tcp port 1984
Possibly a format.
Documented in the man pages: http://yourhobbitserver/hobbit/help/manpages/man1/bb.1.html
Should it be sent via a file or straight connection. Any ideas would be great. Thanks, Stew P.S. I know this has been said before, but.. Many, Many, Many THANKS for all your work Henrik
list Gerard Lill
Stew,
On the agent side, though I am not a programmer by trade, I am trying to develop a windows client. Just working on it when I have the time.
I'll
post something when I get it, however I expect it won't be for a month or two.
We are looking into development for the Windows platform, but focusing more on WMI scripts for testing given services/Applications (i.e. Exchange / RPC / SQL Server, that kind of stuff) Although we planned to just continue using the BBClient, there might be value in coordinating efforts here. We are evaluating the methods available to us in managing this; with the following considerations: About 30 servers each with about 10 tests, hence upward of 300 scripts (given each bbclient has a different install path / log directory), with the added burden of rolling out updates or amendments to these scripts. We are finding that management of client side tests has become cumbersome with as little as 30 servers, and would like to work toward a unified deployment and or deployment method. Also, I am sure there are a number of people involved in monitoring Microsoft servers; I would be interested to hear how you achieved this, in addition to any indication of interest in the development of a client / test architecture. -Gerard Lill -----Original Message----- From: Stew Lambert [mailto:user-6ff5564a72a3@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 14:49 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [Bayesian SPAM] - RE: [hobbit] Comments wanted - OK to drop BB support in Hobbit? - Bayesian Filter detected spam I think you've done an amazing job. Cutting the ties with Qwest is a good thing. I bought the PE version during a big sale last year, and haven't heard a thing from them (upgrades, etc). They should have given you a big check and thrown bbgen into BB. Just my personal opinion. On the agent side, though I am not a programmer by trade, I am trying to develop a windows client. Just working on it when I have the time. I'll post something when I get it, however I expect it won't be for a month or two. Thanks for everything Henrik. <snip>
To be honest, I wonder if the quest version of BB is actually selling/successful... ie, are there still loads of new BB users sprouting up, or is it just old BTF license users who are using/maintaining old BB installations....There haven't been many commercial updates, and it looks like Quest is starting to move away from giving the source out.
One thing I've noticed is that traffic on the BB mailing list appears to have dropped significantly after the Hobbit mailinglist started, and the beta-testing really got going. There are currently 169 adresses subscribed to the Hobbit list, and a handful more only on the announcement-list. I guess I must be doing something right :-) Regards, Henrik
list Vernon Everett
Hi all
I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on,
but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client?
When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta,
and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system)
But that was at the old job.
New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the
client.
What's news?
Regards
Vernon
list Frédéric Mangeant
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Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit :
Hi all I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) But that was at the old job. New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the client. What's news?
Hi beta version 0.8 should be released today : http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23853825&forum_id=48173 This is the actual change log for BBWin 0.8 : BBWin 0.8 Preview version - XX July 2006 + New Features * svcs agent has now a delay setting which tell the agent to do not monitor the Windows services for a short time after the startup of the computer * Msgs agent have priority and count options * You may use environment variables for hostname and paths settings (registry and BBWin.cfg) * Cpu agent can monitor uptime like the original Big Brother client * Cpu agent reports usage for each cpu • + Updates * cpu agent on multi processor computers is now sending the correct cpu usage * disk is now reporting correctly disk which had a size smaller than 1 mb * autoreload is now on by default * BBWin doesn't exits any more on errors * Msgs default delay for match rules may be overridden by a generic setting -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
list Thomas
This is the latest mail I have: I publish today BBWin 0.7 (a free Big Brother Hobbit Windows client). I know I'm late, I said it would be on last monday :-) You can download the MSI installer of this preview from http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbwin This preview contains the new following stuffs: * The msgs agent : it monitors the event logs. It uses match and ignore rules with a lot of options. Rules can be specified with EventId, Event type, Source, LogFile and description (perl regular expressions can be used). * BBWin configuration auto reloading : BBWin auto reload can be set so any change to the BBWin.cfg file will indicate BBWin to reload its configuration without restarting the service itself. * bbpager : BBWin now supports bbpager feature (used with Big Brother server, not compatible with hobbit) * cpu improved : Cpu has been rewritten and reports now contains process owner and priority * Documentation: the documentation is now delivered as a chm file, easyer to read than first my ReadMe.txt file. It will be more complete with time. Also, it may contains many english bad spelling. I will take english lesssons soon but you are welcome to send me corrections :) * Migration tools: configuration migration from bbnt to BBWin for bbpager and msgs has been implemented
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Everett, Vernon wrote:Hi all
I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going
on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client?
When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta,
and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system)
But that was at the old job.
New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see
the client.
What's news?
Regards
Vernonlist Frédéric Mangeant
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Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit :
Hi all I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) But that was at the old job. New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the client. What's news?
0.8 has been released :-) http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=597086 -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
list Kent Brodie
Does anyone know if there's going to be a gui wrapper around the config of this? I am reasonably impressed by the window client's abilities (just fired it up on one of my windows nodes), but I can tell that the windows sysadmins here will be a bit put off by having to manually make registry entries, and manually edit the xml config file. (It's one thing for us unix-dudes(or dudettes) to edit hobbit config items, but I know the windows guys like the gui way. The (older, yet still mostly functional) BBNT client is quite easy to install, configure, and run. I'm hoping that's what we ultimately end up with for the hobbit windows client! Kent C. Brodie - user-da7f7d5174c0@xymon.invalid Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (XXX) XXX-XXXX
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:user-b6ea1d850181@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:39 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows Client
Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit :Hi all I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) But that was at the old job. New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the client. What's news?
0.8 has been released :-) http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=597086 -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
list Allan Spencer
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Brodie, Kent wrote:
Does anyone know if there's going to be a gui wrapper around the config of this? I am reasonably impressed by the window client's abilities (just fired it up on one of my windows nodes), but I can tell that the windows sysadmins here will be a bit put off by having to manually make registry entries, and manually edit the xml config file. (It's one thing for us unix-dudes(or dudettes) to edit hobbit config items, but I know the windows guys like the gui way. The (older, yet still mostly functional) BBNT client is quite easy to install, configure, and run. I'm hoping that's what we ultimately end up with for the hobbit windows client! Kent C. Brodie - user-da7f7d5174c0@xymon.invalid Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (XXX) XXX-XXXX -----Original Message----- From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:user-b6ea1d850181@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:39 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows Client Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit :Hi all I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) But that was at the old job. New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the client. What's news?0.8 has been released :-) http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=597086
I had been very wary of this client until about 10 mins ago when I installed and configured it and I also must say I'm reasonably impressed. The migrate from BBNT script had me up and running in about 60 seconds without having to worry about the config file and setting everything from scartch. Is there a separate mailing list for the windows client or are we all putting together here on the hobbit list ? I have a few more questions and want to make sure they are going to the right place :) Cheers Allan
list Galen Johnson
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ZanDAhaR wrote:
Brodie, Kent wrote:Does anyone know if there's going to be a gui wrapper around the config of this? I am reasonably impressed by the window client's abilities (just fired it up on one of my windows nodes), but I can tell that the windows sysadmins here will be a bit put off by having to manually make registry entries, and manually edit the xml config file. (It's one thing for us unix-dudes(or dudettes) to edit hobbit config items, but I know the windows guys like the gui way. The (older, yet still mostly functional) BBNT client is quite easy to install, configure, and run. I'm hoping that's what we ultimately end up with for the hobbit windows client! Kent C. Brodie - user-da7f7d5174c0@xymon.invalid Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (XXX) XXX-XXXX -----Original Message----- From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:user-b6ea1d850181@xymon.invalid] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:39 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows Client Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit :Hi all I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) But that was at the old job. New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see the client. What's news?0.8 has been released :-) http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=597086I had been very wary of this client until about 10 mins ago when I installed and configured it and I also must say I'm reasonably impressed. The migrate from BBNT script had me up and running in about 60 seconds without having to worry about the config file and setting everything from scartch. Is there a separate mailing list for the windows client or are we all putting together here on the hobbit list ? I have a few more questions and want to make sure they are going to the right place :) Cheers Allan
There is a bbwin mailing list available off the bbwin site. =G=
list Craig Cook
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services
http://www.cookitservices.com
list Trent Melcher
Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory
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-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] devmon help
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Steve Aiello
--readbbhosts option only creates the hosts.db file, nothing else. You then need to start the devmon proccess without the --readbbhost option for it to query the SNMP devices. After starting it doing a ps -ef should should then number of threads (configured in cfg file) + 1. Maybe I missunderstood, but happy to help with the experience I have had.
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-----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:05 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] devmon helpI have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with.SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do > anything with it.The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about... Single devmon server. solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon--readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, > 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying > all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and > snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for > switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software > IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 > by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match > powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : > 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco > 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon > --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, > 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying > all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts > [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for > switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software > IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 > by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match > powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 > [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 > [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : > 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900I changed this in dm_config.pm 'verbose' => 1,'debug' => 1, 'print_msg' => 1,# vi hosts.db > switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[Are the "^["'s messing this up? Nothing in the devmon log file...ThanksCraig Cook-- Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Francesco Duranti
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I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it. The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
You've to create a template dir for cisco-3550 (just like the 3500 but change the 3500 in 3550) or it will not work because it cannot find a usable template. I don't know if this will work sometimes mostly on cisco device a xx00 device seems to have different oid from a xx50 device. To get the data you also need to run devmon as a deamon (If i remember well if you run it without any option it will go in background). The devmon --readbbhosts will only read the bbhosts and pass test information to the daemon running. Francesco
list Johann Eggers
We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp boxes with devmon. You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates as a basis and change them to fit to your needs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Craig
Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too
have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having
same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even
used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and
looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in
the log file.
Anyone else have this working?
Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC.
Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an
SEC Registered Investment Advisory
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] devmon help
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Johann Eggers
A little correction: Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file. You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the message...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp
boxes with devmon.
You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the
System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is
able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates
as a basis and change them to fit to your needs
-----Original Message-----
From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Craig
Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too
have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having
same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even
used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and
looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in
the log file.
Anyone else have this working?
Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC.
Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an
SEC Registered Investment Advisory
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] devmon help
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Jason Altrincham Jones
Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell
(printer) oids they know work?
But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts
for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using
DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon
--readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and
report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also
look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages
Any templates you create must follow this structure
DIR:name (best to use vendor-model)
|
|--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc)
|--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit)
|
|-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign
|-- message (message format reported to hobbit)
|-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to
use)
|-- transforms (data manipulation)
|-- exceptions (what is sounds like)
Thanks,
Jason
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-----Original Message-----
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
A little correction:
Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file.
You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to
calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the
message...
-----Original Message-----
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp
boxes with devmon.
You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the
System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is
able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates
as a basis and change them to fit to your needs
-----Original Message-----
From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Craig
Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too
have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having
same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even
used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and
looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in
the log file.
Anyone else have this working?
Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC.
Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an
SEC Registered Investment Advisory
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] devmon help
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Johann Eggers
Yup, I can send you the templates we are currently using...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 17:18
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell
(printer) oids they know work?
But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts
for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using
DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon
--readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and
report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also
look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages
Any templates you create must follow this structure
DIR:name (best to use vendor-model)
|
|--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc)
|--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit)
|
|-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign
|-- message (message format reported to hobbit)
|-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to
use)
|-- transforms (data manipulation)
|-- exceptions (what is sounds like)
Thanks,
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
A little correction:
Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file.
You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to
calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the
message...
-----Original Message-----
From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp
boxes with devmon.
You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the
System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is
able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates
as a basis and change them to fit to your needs
-----Original Message-----
From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Craig
Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too
have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having
same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even
used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and
looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in
the log file.
Anyone else have this working?
Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC.
Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an
SEC Registered Investment Advisory
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] devmon help
I have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything with it.
The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about...
Single devmon server.
solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts in bb-hosts file, please wait...
[06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh :::
[06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2900 : C2900
I changed this in dm_config.pm
'verbose' => 1,
'debug' => 1,
'print_msg' => 1,
# vi hosts.db
switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[
Are the "^["'s messing this up?
Nothing in the devmon log file...
Thanks
Craig Cook
--
Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services http://www.cookitservices.com
list Trent Melcher
Ok, how do I run devmon in daemon mode to capture the data? When I run devmon with no options it runs for about 15 seconds then finishes? Thanks
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Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC.
Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an
SEC Registered Investment Advisory
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From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:18 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell (printer) oids they know work? But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages Any templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model) | |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like) Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help A little correction: Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file. You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the message... -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp boxes with devmon. You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates as a basis and change them to fit to your needs -----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] devmon helpI have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. > SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything > with it. The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about... Single devmon server. solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts > [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models,19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco > Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software > (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered > switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# > /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 > vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System > Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco > Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900I changed this in dm_config.pm 'verbose' => 1,'debug' => 1, 'print_msg' => 1,# vi hosts.db switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[Are the "^["'s messing this up? Nothing in the devmon log file...ThanksCraig Cook-- Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services > http://www.cookitservices.com
list Trent Melcher
Also forgot to mention my devmon.log file is empty. Permissions on it are fine. Trent
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From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:18 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell (printer) oids they know work? But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages Any templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model) | |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like) Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help A little correction: Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file. You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the message... -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp boxes with devmon. You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates as a basis and change them to fit to your needs -----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] devmon helpI have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. > SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything > with it. The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about... Single devmon server. solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts > [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models,19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco > Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software > (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered > switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# > /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 > vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System > Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco > Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900I changed this in dm_config.pm 'verbose' => 1,'debug' => 1, 'print_msg' => 1,# vi hosts.db switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[Are the "^["'s messing this up? Nothing in the devmon log file...ThanksCraig Cook-- Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services > http://www.cookitservices.com
list Johann Eggers
Installation documentation is under docs/INSTALLATION Double check your devmon.cfg file This is in my devmon.log $ more devmon.log [06-07-11 at 12:47:51] ---Initilizing devmon... [06-07-11 at 12:47:51] Node 0 reporting to xxxx [06-07-11 at 12:47:51] Running under process id: 10095 [06-07-11 at 12:47:51] Entering poll loop When the devmon daemon is running you should normaly have also a devmon.pid file
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From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 18:01
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help
Also forgot to mention my devmon.log file is empty. Permissions on it
are fine.
Trent
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-----Original Message----- From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:18 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell (printer) oids they know work? But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages Any templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model) | |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like) Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help A little correction: Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file. You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the message... -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp boxes with devmon. You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates as a basis and change them to fit to your needs -----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] devmon helpI have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. > SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything > with it. The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about... Single devmon server. solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts > [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models,19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco > Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software > (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered > switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# > /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 > vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System > Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco > Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900I changed this in dm_config.pm 'verbose' => 1,'debug' => 1, 'print_msg' => 1,# vi hosts.db switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[Are the "^["'s messing this up? Nothing in the devmon log file...ThanksCraig Cook-- Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services > http://www.cookitservices.com
list Steve Aiello
You may want to use the Devmon mailing list for your devmon woes, user-7cdab8524266@xymon.invalid. By default, when you start devmon, devmon runs as a daemon. to troubleshoot you can use the -f option to keep it in the foreground, i.e. ./devmon -f -vvvv that may output information to point you in the right direction.
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-----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:01 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Also forgot to mention my devmon.log file is empty. Permissions on it are fine. Trent Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:18 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon helpRelated to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell(printer) oids they know work?But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force usingDEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you > run devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for > usable tests it can run and report any entries that do not > have matching templates, you can also look in > /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messagesAny templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model)| |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like)Thanks,Jason
list Trent Melcher
Thanks Steve Never went out 4 v's (-vvvv) only 3 and it didn't show me the error I needed to see. Have it working, thanks again
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From: Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant) [mailto:user-49fae449733a@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:22 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help You may want to use the Devmon mailing list for your devmon woes, user-7cdab8524266@xymon.invalid. By default, when you start devmon, devmon runs as a daemon. to troubleshoot you can use the -f option to keep it in the foreground, i.e. ./devmon -f -vvvv that may output information to point you in the right direction.-----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:01 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon helpAlso forgot to mention my devmon.log file is empty. > Permissions on it are fine.Trent Trent MelcherUnix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member > NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America > Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message-----From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:18 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon helpRelated to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell(printer) oids they know work?But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the > > bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force usingDEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run > > devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it > > can run and report any entries that do not have matching templates, > > you can also look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messagesAny templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model)| |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages > > to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like)Thanks,Jason
list Francesco Duranti
I'm interested in devmon templates too it's possible to make them available on theshire or devmon sourceforge page or in some other places? I'm a bit lazy about snmp but I think that if everyone who create some template for devmon will share them we will have some more to play with :D Francesco
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-----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:23 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Yup, I can send you the templates we are currently using... -----Original Message----- From: Jones, Jason (Altrincham) [mailto:user-ee957b46acd2@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 17:18 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Related to this would anyone be willing to send me any cisco, hp/dell (printer) oids they know work? But as for helping as Johann said you add a DEVMON tag to the bb-hosts for the switch etc you want tested (you can force using DEVMON:model(<vendor>;<model>) ) after you have done this you run devmon --readbbhosts and it will search through for usable tests it can run and report any entries that do not have matching templates, you can also look in /var/logs/devmon.log for useful output messages Any templates you create must follow this structure DIR:name (best to use vendor-model) | |--specs (must contain vendor, model, snmpver and sysDesc) |--DIR:test (this will be the name reported to hobbit) | |-- oids (contains oids and handles you assign |-- message (message format reported to hobbit) |-- thresholds(when to generate status changes and messages to use) |-- transforms (data manipulation) |-- exceptions (what is sounds like) Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: 15 September 2006 16:07 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help A little correction: Which device to query is determined by entries in the bb-hosts file. You need the templates to specify what OID's to query, how to calculate/handle the output, define thresholds, generating the message... -----Original Message----- From: Johann Eggers [mailto:user-769b09132207@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help We are currently monitor Cisco 6506, Cisco 4003, Cisco 1700 and Netapp boxes with devmon. You have to create a template for the devices named by the model in the System Description of the snmp output. By this way the devmon daemon is able to determine what devices to query. You can use existing templates as a basis and change them to fit to your needs -----Original Message----- From: Trent Melcher [mailto:user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Freitag, 15. September 2006 16:05 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] devmon help Craig Run strings against the hosts.db and you will see better output. I too have been trying to setup devmon and cant get it working either, having same problems as you. Run devmon with the --readbbhosts option, I even used the -vv to see some info, it identifies the switch correctly and looks like its using the right template, but no output or anything in the log file. Anyone else have this working? Trent Melcher Unix/Linux Systems Administrator Securities America Financial Corporation (XXX) XXX-XXXX x2774 user-a7d23e07dd5c@xymon.invalid Securities America, Inc., a Registered Broker/Dealer, Member NASD/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Securities America Advisors, Inc., an SEC Registered Investment Advisory-----Original Message----- From: Craig Cook [mailto:user-618593604956@xymon.invalid] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] devmon helpI have a cisco 3550 switch I am trying to use devmon with. > SNMP is enabled in the switch, but devmon does not seem to do anything > with it. The templates dir has cisco-3500 listed as a device it knows about... Single devmon server. solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts > [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Saw 5 vendors, 19 models,19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:01:46] Querying new hosts using cid 'public' and snmp v2 > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com > [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco > Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software > (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900 [06-09-14 at 13:01:47] Discovered > switch1.example.com as a cisco 3550 solaris1:/usr/local/devmon# > /usr/local/devmon/devmon --readbbhosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Saw 5 > vendors, 19 models, 19 sysdescs & 57 templates [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] SNMP querying all hosts > in bb-hosts file, please wait... [06-09-14 at 13:02:11] Querying pre-existing hosts [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > DEBUG SNMP: Dethawing data for switch1.example.com [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com sysdesc = ::: Cisco Internetwork Operating System > Software IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version > 12.1(22)EA1a, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco > Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 20-Aug-04 00:44 by yenanh ::: [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match powerware : 9170 > : BestLink [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match apc : > 9609 : MN: AP9606 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9205 : Mod: AP9205 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match apc : 9619 : MN:AP9619 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com > did not match cisco : 1700 : C1700 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] > switch1.example.com did not match cisco : 2970 : C2970 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not match > cisco : 3725 : C3725 [06-09-14 at 13:02:12] switch1.example.com did not > match cisco : 2900 : C2900I changed this in dm_config.pm 'verbose' => 1,'debug' => 1, 'print_msg' => 1,# vi hosts.db switch1.example.com^[192.168.1.2^[cisco^[3550^[all^[public^[^[Are the "^["'s messing this up? Nothing in the devmon log file...ThanksCraig Cook-- Systems Monitoring Consulting and Support Services > http://www.cookitservices.com
list Kevin
Can somebody tell me about this windows client I have heard mentioned? Where do I get it? Does it work? What advantage does it have over the BB windows client? thanks kevin
list Ralph Mitchell
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On 9/18/06, Kevin <user-a004b26f09c6@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Can somebody tell me about this windows client I have heard mentioned? Where do I get it? Does it work? What advantage does it have over the BB windows client?
It's here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbwin I haven't tried it as I'm not allowed to use Hobbit to monitor systems. I'm just barely allowed to use it for URL: monitoring. Office politics... :) Ralph Mitchell
list Rob MacGregor
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On 9/19/06, Ralph Mitchell <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:
It's here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbwin I haven't tried it as I'm not allowed to use Hobbit to monitor systems. I'm just barely allowed to use it for URL: monitoring. Office politics... :)
Works like a charm and certainly fuller featured than te BB client
(and a better fit with Hobbit).
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list Michael A. Price
I am using the windows client bbwin, it works great. I am still testing it before I roll it out to the production systems. But so far no complaints. thanx, michael Michael A. Price Performance Network Engineering NASA/GSFC Code 440.8/LMB Greenbelt, Maryland 20770
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Ralph Mitchell wrote:On 9/18/06, Kevin <user-a004b26f09c6@xymon.invalid> wrote:Can somebody tell me about this windows client I have heard mentioned? Where do I get it? Does it work? What advantage does it have over the BB windows client?It's here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbwin I haven't tried it as I'm not allowed to use Hobbit to monitor systems. I'm just barely allowed to use it for URL: monitoring. Office politics... :) Ralph Mitchell
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Kevin wrote:
Can somebody tell me about this windows client I have heard mentioned? Where do I get it? Does it work? What advantage does it have over the BB windows client?
This is not the Windows client you've heard of, but I'll mention it anyway in case someone is interested: http://extranet.365-24.se/MrBig/ It is compatible with Big Brother and Hobbit servers and runs on any Windows version from 4.0 up to and including 6.0 (Longhorn) build 5600. It is possible that it runs on Windows 98 too, but we don't host any such "servers" anymore. ;-) Ulric
list Paul Root
Anybody using devmon? I've got it running on our primary hobbit server, but I want the data to go to our backup server as well. I tried setting the DISPSERV to 0.0.0.0 but that doesn't seem to be working. Also, I need a template for a Cisco 3800. Any help there? Thanks, Paul. Paul Root XXX-XXX-XXXX XXX-XXX-XXXX IM/MNS Infrastructure This communication is the property of Qwest and may contain confidential or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the communication and any attachments.
list Vernon Everett
Hi all
Can anybody tell me the current status of Windows clients for Xymon?
Is BBWin still the best we have?
I remember seeing somebody on the list working on a new Windows client.
Where are we on that?
Regards
Vernon
list Josh Luthman
Haven't heard anything about the new one, but bbwin is the best today.
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On Jan 20, 2011 9:48 PM, "Vernon Everett" <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hi all Can anybody tell me the current status of Windows clients for Xymon? Is BBWin still the best we have? I remember seeing somebody on the list working on a new Windows client. Where are we on that? Regards Vernon
list Henrik Størner
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In <AANLkTimfVMpA=J=oZ1GY6LwgRH2pm=user-f4a837752ec8@xymon.invalid> Vernon Everett <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> writes:
Can anybody tell me the current status of Windows clients for Xymon? Is BBWin still the best we have? I remember seeing somebody on the list working on a new Windows client. Where are we on that?
It is working pretty well, but is still being developed very much. For production use, I would probably stick with BBWin, but you are very welcome to try out the Xymonclient - it's available on Sourceforge at http://xymon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xymon/sandbox/WinPSClient/ There has been some talk about releasing it at the same time as the 4.3.0 server release. I think that could be a possibility, but Dave Baldwin (who has done most of the development after my initial proof-of-concept version) has some say in this. Regards, Henrik
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On 22/01/11 4:21 AM, Henrik Størner wrote:
In <AANLkTimfVMpA=J=oZ1GY6LwgRH2pm=user-f4a837752ec8@xymon.invalid> Vernon Everett <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> writes:Can anybody tell me the current status of Windows clients for Xymon? Is BBWin still the best we have? I remember seeing somebody on the list working on a new Windows client. Where are we on that?It is working pretty well, but is still being developed very much. For production use, I would probably stick with BBWin, but you are very welcome to try out the Xymonclient - it's available on Sourceforge at http://xymon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xymon/sandbox/WinPSClient/ There has been some talk about releasing it at the same time as the 4.3.0 server release. I think that could be a possibility, but Dave Baldwin (who has done most of the development after my initial proof-of-concept version) has some say in this. Regards, Henrik
XymonPSClient is working fine for me on various 2003R2 and 2008 servers. It hasn't been tested much on XP, Vista or Win7 so there may be issues there. There are still a number of issues that would ideally be resolved before a release. Off the top of my head: * due to Service runner used (ABC_SRVANY.EXE) being 32-bit, when running as a service it runs in 32-bit mode only. There may be a workaround for this - the problem is the path mangling done by Windows to keep the 32 and 64-bit "worlds" separate. If anyone knows of a path to invoke the 64-bit powershell interpreter from the 32-bit world that's what's required. I haven't looked very hard yet. * running as a service is fragile. The runner does not monitor its child at all, so if the powershell process died the service would still appear to be running. A proper service runner is really required to solve both of these. I haven't actually experienced any problems in my test environment, but I'm uncomfortable with the current situation. At least the client would go purple if it died I guess. * it doesn't support external scripts yet. I was hoping that another project Neil Franken was working on could be adapted to solve all of these, but I'm not aware he has got it to a stage of broader circulation. His last post to the list indicated he was changing jobs, so not sure if he's even on the list anymore. * a few pending feature requests/bug fixes of my own and from the list I need to add in when I get time. Happy to discuss all of the above. David. -- David Baldwin - IT Unit Australian Sports Commission www.ausport.gov.au Tel 02 62147830 Fax 02 62141830 PO Box 176 Belconnen ACT 2616 user-cbbf693f2c89@xymon.invalid Leverrier Street Bruce ACT 2617 Keep up to date with what's happening in Australian sport visit http://www.ausport.gov.au This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender.
list Vernon Everett
Hi all
Apologies if this has been asked recently, but what is the current status
of the Windows client?
Is it still BBWin 12, or has there been any progress made on something
newer?
Regards
Vernon
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list Neil Simmonds
If you goe here, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbwin/ You'll see that it's now at 13. From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Everett Sent: 11 July 2012 04:11 To: Xymon mailinglist Subject: [Xymon] Windows Client
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Hi all
Apologies if this has been asked recently, but what is the current
status of the Windows client?
Is it still BBWin 12, or has there been any progress made on something
newer?
Regards
Vernon
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And updated earlier this year. Excellent! Web site http://bbwin.sourceforge.net/ says it's still 12 Didn't hit the link and confirm. Thanks Vernon
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list Neil Simmonds
I know this has probably come up before but does anyone know if there is an alternative Windows client to BBWin that actually works. I've got problems with both 0.12 and 0.13 versions of the client. 0.12 doesn't seem to work on Windows Server 2008 and 0.13 has a memory leak. This issue has been recently raised on the BBWin sourceforge big list and the reply was, 0.13 is mostly just a port from VS 2008 to VS2010. I don't have the time to spend on improving it and to be honest it's probably not worth spending the time. We really need a client developed on C# so that it can take advantage of .NET's capabilities of hooking into the OS much more cleanly. I appreciate that this is open source software and as such I don't expect people to jump on it and fix it, however it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable I wouldn't really be comfortable attempting something like this even though I have started to look at learning C#.
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I agree, BBWin is not ideal, but it is surprisingly resilient considering it is alpha code and with all the changes in Windows... One way would be to put up some funding - maybe someone is willing to put in the work. I'd be happy to contribute (monetarily that is - I, too, am no programmer). We have a big 'investment' in xymon and it would be great if the windows side was strengthened. BTW, I have been using BBWin 0.13 on both 2008R2 and 2012, a dozen systems so far, for a month or two in production. I think there was a problem once (on a system with *huge* logging) where we have to restart BBWin but otherwise it has been stable. It just takes (at times considerable) patience to work out the foibles.
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From: Xymon on behalf of Neil Simmonds
Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013 10:50 PM
To: Phil Crooker; xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [Xymon] Windows Client
I know this has probably come up before but does anyone know if there is an alternative Windows client to BBWin that actually works. I've got problems with both 0.12 and 0.13 versions of the client.
0.12 doesn't seem to work on Windows Server 2008 and 0.13 has a memory leak. This issue has been recently raised on the BBWin sourceforge big list and the reply was, 0.13 is mostly just a port from VS 2008 to VS2010. I don't have the time to spend on improving it and to be honest it's probably not worth spending the time. We really need a client developed on C# so that it can take advantage of .NET's capabilities of hooking into the OS much more cleanly.
I appreciate that this is open source software and as such I don't expect people to jump on it and fix it, however it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 (1/4) years.
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Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable I wouldn't really be comfortable attempting something like this even though I have started to look at learning C#.
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Hi there, You can always try the checkwin agent. see: http://code.google.com/p/checkwin/ When using the NSClient++ (nagios) agent, just be shure to use the NSClient++ 0.3.9 version. I didn't had the time to adapt this check to the NSclient++ 0.4.X version but till now, checkwin is working on all our Windows server versions. (not tested on Windows 8) B-Art ** *From:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Crooker *Sent:* dinsdag 23 juli 2013 1:47 *To:* Neil Simmonds; xymon at xymon.com *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
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I agree, BBWin is not ideal, but it is surprisingly resilient considering
it is alpha code and with all the changes in Windows...
One way would be to put up some funding - maybe someone is willing to put
in the work. I'd be happy to contribute (monetarily that is - I, too, am no
programmer). We have a big 'investment' in xymon and it would be great if
the windows side was strengthened.
BTW, I have been using BBWin 0.13 on both 2008R2 and 2012, a dozen systems
so far, for a month or two in production. I think there was a problem once
(on a system with *huge* logging) where we have to restart BBWin but
otherwise it has been stable. It just takes (at times considerable)
patience to work out the foibles.
*From:* Xymon on behalf of Neil Simmonds
*Sent:* Monday, 22 July 2013 10:50 PM
*To:* Phil Crooker; xymon at xymon.com
*Subject:* [Xymon] Windows Client
I know this has probably come up before but does anyone know if there is an
alternative Windows client to BBWin that actually works. I’ve got problems
with both 0.12 and 0.13 versions of the client.
0.12 doesn’t seem to work on Windows Server 2008 and 0.13 has a memory
leak. This issue has been recently raised on the BBWin sourceforge big list
and the reply was, 0.13 is mostly just a port from VS 2008 to VS2010. I
don't have the time to spend on improving it and to be honest it's probably
not worth spending the time. We really need a client developed on C# so
that it can take advantage of .NET's capabilities of hooking into the OS
much more cleanly.
I appreciate that this is open source software and as such I don’t expect
people to jump on it and fix it, however it appears that BBWin may not be
fit for purpose in the near future. I’ve looked at MrBig and WinPSClient
but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn’t
been changed in 2 ¼ years.
Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps
writing something? I’d look into it myself but I’m not a programmer so
although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable I wouldn’t
really be comfortable attempting something like this even though I have
started to look at learning C#.
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Requiring you reverse your network model - the Xymon server needs to talk to all of the clients. This is one of the reasons we dumped Nagios.
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----- Original Message ----- From: B-Art Gillis Sent: 07/23/13 04:04 PM To: Phil Crooker, Neil Simmonds, xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client Hi there, You can always try the checkwin agent. see: http://code.google.com/p/checkwin/ When using the NSClient++ (nagios) agent, just be shure to use the NSClient++ 0.3.9 version. I didn't had the time to adapt this check to the NSclient++ 0.4.X version but till now, checkwin is working on all our Windows server versions. (not tested on Windows 8) B-Art
From: Xymon [mailto: xymon-bounces at xymon.com ] *On Behalf Of *Phil Crooker
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*Sent:* dinsdag 23 juli 2013 1:47
*To:* Neil Simmonds; xymon at xymon.com
*Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
I agree, BBWin is not ideal, but it is surprisingly resilient considering it is alpha code and with all the changes in Windows...
One way would be to put up some funding - maybe someone is willing to put in the work. I'd be happy to contribute (monetarily that is - I, too, am no programmer). We have a big 'investment' in xymon and it would be great if the windows side was strengthened.
BTW, I have been using BBWin 0.13 on both 2008R2 and 2012, a dozen systems so far, for a month or two in production. I think there was a problem once (on a system with *huge* logging) where we have to restart BBWin but otherwise it has been stable. It just takes (at times considerable) patience to work out the foibles.
From: Xymon on behalf of Neil Simmonds
*Sent:* Monday, 22 July 2013 10:50 PM
*To:* Phil Crooker; xymon at xymon.com
*Subject:* [Xymon] Windows Client
I know this has probably come up before but does anyone know if there is an alternative Windows client to BBWin that actually works. I’ve got problems with both 0.12 and 0.13 versions of the client.
0.12 doesn’t seem to work on Windows Server 2008 and 0.13 has a memory leak. This issue has been recently raised on the BBWin sourceforge big list and the reply was, 0.13 is mostly just a port from VS 2008 to VS2010. I don't have the time to spend on improving it and to be honest it's probably not worth spending the time. We really need a client developed on C# so that it can take advantage of .NET's capabilities of hooking into the OS much more cleanly.
I appreciate that this is open source software and as such I don’t expect people to jump on it and fix it, however it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I’ve looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn’t been changed in 2 ¼ years.
Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I’d look into it myself but I’m not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable I wouldn’t really be comfortable attempting something like this even though I have started to look at learning C#.
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On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:
it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I’ve looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn’t been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I’d look into it myself but I’m not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable
If you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
list Darin D [itsys] Dugan
I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:
it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable
If you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
list Neil Simmonds
Because of the network changes that would be required (especially for machines in the DMZ and PCI networks) this is not an option as we can have connections initiated from the clients but it’s unlikely we would be able to have connections initiated from the server. The issues this would cause for us are worse than the BBWin memory leak issue.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Hunter Sent: 23 July 2013 16:33 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client Requiring you reverse your network model - the Xymon server needs to talk to all of the clients. This is one of the reasons we dumped Nagios. ----- Original Message ----- From: B-Art Gillis Sent: 07/23/13 04:04 PM To: Phil Crooker, Neil Simmonds, xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client Hi there, You can always try the checkwin agent. see: http://code.google.com/p/checkwin/ When using the NSClient++ (nagios) agent, just be shure to use the NSClient++ 0.3.9 version. I didn't had the time to adapt this check to the NSclient++ 0.4.X version but till now, checkwin is working on all our Windows server versions. (not tested on Windows 8) B-Art From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] On Behalf Of Phil Crooker Sent: dinsdag 23 juli 2013 1:47 To: Neil Simmonds; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I agree, BBWin is not ideal, but it is surprisingly resilient considering it is alpha code and with all the changes in Windows... One way would be to put up some funding - maybe someone is willing to put in the work. I'd be happy to contribute (monetarily that is - I, too, am no programmer). We have a big 'investment' in xymon and it would be great if the windows side was strengthened. BTW, I have been using BBWin 0.13 on both 2008R2 and 2012, a dozen systems so far, for a month or two in production. I think there was a problem once (on a system with *huge* logging) where we have to restart BBWin but otherwise it has been stable. It just takes (at times considerable) patience to work out the foibles. From: Xymon on behalf of Neil Simmonds Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013 10:50 PM To: Phil Crooker; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: [Xymon] Windows Client I know this has probably come up before but does anyone know if there is an alternative Windows client to BBWin that actually works. I’ve got problems with both 0.12 and 0.13 versions of the client. 0.12 doesn’t seem to work on Windows Server 2008 and 0.13 has a memory leak. This issue has been recently raised on the BBWin sourceforge big list and the reply was, 0.13 is mostly just a port from VS 2008 to VS2010. I don't have the time to spend on improving it and to be honest it's probably not worth spending the time. We really need a client developed on C# so that it can take advantage of .NET's capabilities of hooking into the OS much more cleanly. I appreciate that this is open source software and as such I don’t expect people to jump on it and fix it, however it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I’ve looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn’t been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I’d look into it myself but I’m not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable I wouldn’t really be comfortable attempting something like this even though I have started to look at learning C#. Name & Registered Office: EXPRESS GIFTS LIMITED, 2 GREGORY ST, HYDE, CHESHIRE, ENGLAND, SK14 4TH, Company No. 00718151. 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Unfortunately we use quite a lot of External scripts and we also can't use Powershell. We have scripting disabled on all servers and while we might be able to get signed scripting allowed, we would require to run the client as a service which would have to run under the Local System account. Experience has shown us that this causes significant problems when trying to run signed scripts. The last time we had a requirement to run a Powershell script as an external on BBWin, I ended up having to rewrite it in VBScript as we couldn't get the PS script to work as a signed script under the Local System account. Unfortunately I don't make the rules under which I have to work, I just have to make the best of them and work within those rules for monitoring.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS] Sent: 23 July 2013 17:06
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To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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A C# client is defintely the way to go. Unfortunately my C# knowledge isn't sufficient for a project on this scale. I could only assist with debugging, etc.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 12:11 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Unfortunately we use quite a lot of External scripts and we also can't use Powershell. We have scripting disabled on all servers and while we might be able to get signed scripting allowed, we would require to run the client as a service which would have to run under the Local System account. Experience has shown us that this causes significant problems when trying to run signed scripts.
The last time we had a requirement to run a Powershell script as an external on BBWin, I ended up having to rewrite it in VBScript as we couldn't get the PS script to work as a signed script under the Local System account.
Unfortunately I don't make the rules under which I have to work, I just have to make the best of them and work within those rules for monitoring.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS] Sent: 23 July 2013 17:06 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
Name & Registered Office: EXPRESS GIFTS LIMITED, 2 GREGORY ST, HYDE, CHESHIRE, ENGLAND, SK14 4TH, Company No. 00718151. Express Gifts Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Findel PLC and the recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Findel PLC. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences ar ising from it. Findel Plc reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please notify our IT helpdesk on +44(0) 1254 303030 -- BBWin Development - The Windows client for Big Brother and Xymon http://bbwin.sourceforge.net http://xymon.sourceforge.net
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I’m currently looking at the code for BBWin (I’m checking out some ways of possibly finding memory leaks), I’ve checked it out from sourceforge SVN but when trying to build I’m getting the following error. 4> SubWCRev : E155036: The working copy at 'F:\BBWin Code\Trunk\Core' 4> is too old (format 10) to work with client version '1.8.0 (r1490375)' (expects format 31). You need to upgrade the working copy first. I’m using Visual Studio 2010 express which I thought was the version that the current BBWin was created in but this looks like I might be wrong. Can anyone help with this?
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Hunter
Sent: 24 July 2013 12:27
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
A C# client is defintely the way to go. Unfortunately my C# knowledge isn't sufficient for a project on this scale. I could only assist with debugging, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 12:11 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Unfortunately we use quite a lot of External scripts and we also can't use Powershell. We have scripting disabled on all servers and while we might be able to get signed scripting allowed, we would require to run the client as a service which would have to run under the Local System account. Experience has shown us that this causes significant problems when trying to run signed scripts.
The last time we had a requirement to run a Powershell script as an external on BBWin, I ended up having to rewrite it in VBScript as we couldn't get the PS script to work as a signed script under the Local System account.
Unfortunately I don't make the rules under which I have to work, I just have to make the best of them and work within those rules for monitoring.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS] Sent: 23 July 2013 17:06 To: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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Did you follow the instructions in the help Development -> Building BBWin?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 01:38 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
I’m currently looking at the code for BBWin (I’m checking out some ways of possibly finding memory leaks), I’ve checked it out from sourceforge SVN but when trying to build I’m getting the following error.
4> SubWCRev : E155036: The working copy at 'F:\BBWin Code\Trunk\Core'
4> is too old (format 10) to work with client version '1.8.0 (r1490375)' (expects format 31). You need to upgrade the working copy first.
I’m using Visual Studio 2010 express which I thought was the version that the current BBWin was created in but this looks like I might be wrong. Can anyone help with this?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Malcolm Hunter
*Sent:* 24 July 2013 12:27
*To:* xymon at xymon.com
*Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
A C# client is defintely the way to go. Unfortunately my C# knowledge isn't sufficient for a project on this scale. I could only assist with debugging, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 12:11 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Unfortunately we use quite a lot of External scripts and we also can't use Powershell. We have scripting disabled on all servers and while we might be able to get signed scripting allowed, we would require to run the client as a service which would have to run under the Local System account. Experience has shown us that this causes significant problems when trying to run signed scripts.
The last time we had a requirement to run a Powershell script as an external on BBWin, I ended up having to rewrite it in VBScript as we couldn't get the PS script to work as a signed script under the Local System account.
Unfortunately I don't make the rules under which I have to work, I just have to make the best of them and work within those rules for monitoring.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [ xymon-bounces at xymon.com ] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS] Sent: 23 July 2013 17:06 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [ xymon-bounces at xymon.com ] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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Ah, the last update wasn't committed. It's up-to-date now.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Hunter
Sent: 07/24/13 02:17 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Did you follow the instructions in the help Development -> Building BBWin?
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From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 01:38 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
I’m currently looking at the code for BBWin (I’m checking out some ways of possibly finding memory leaks), I’ve checked it out from sourceforge SVN but when trying to build I’m getting the following error.
4> SubWCRev : E155036: The working copy at 'F:\BBWin Code\Trunk\Core'
4> is too old (format 10) to work with client version '1.8.0 (r1490375)' (expects format 31). You need to upgrade the working copy first.
I’m using Visual Studio 2010 express which I thought was the version that the current BBWin was created in but this looks like I might be wrong. Can anyone help with this?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Malcolm Hunter
*Sent:* 24 July 2013 12:27
*To:* xymon at xymon.com
*Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
A C# client is defintely the way to go. Unfortunately my C# knowledge isn't sufficient for a project on this scale. I could only assist with debugging, etc.
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From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 07/24/13 12:11 PM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Unfortunately we use quite a lot of External scripts and we also can't use Powershell. We have scripting disabled on all servers and while we might be able to get signed scripting allowed, we would require to run the client as a service which would have to run under the Local System account. Experience has shown us that this causes significant problems when trying to run signed scripts.
The last time we had a requirement to run a Powershell script as an external on BBWin, I ended up having to rewrite it in VBScript as we couldn't get the PS script to work as a signed script under the Local System account.
Unfortunately I don't make the rules under which I have to work, I just have to make the best of them and work within those rules for monitoring.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [ xymon-bounces at xymon.com ] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS] Sent: 23 July 2013 17:06 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [ xymon-bounces at xymon.com ] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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Apologies for not responding on this one earlier. My thoughts on WinPSClient (which I built up from the first cut Henrik wrote, and was a great way of learning powershell): * it needs a bit of work still * it does have some functions not in the BBWin client * it can be a resource hog - some apparently builtin powershell cmdlets end up calling some dodgy underlying mechanisms, and it's not obvious what without a bit of work. Most are OK however, and the most recent versions are pretty aggressive about garbage collection. I'm not sure how many persistent processes are written in powershell - memory leaks aren't much of an issue for a short run process. * it doesn't run external scripts - I started looking at Start-Job and the .Net process management classes but there are so many corner cases to handle on process termination, overlapping runs, etc. * the service runner is very crude - start process and ignore it until sent a stop service signal at which point go looking for it to kill. Service restart options are irrelevant. Not sure if anything has changed around running powershell as a service directly. * because the service runner used is 32-bit, it uses the 32-bit version of Powershell. There may be a workaround for this, but I couldn't find one. * it may be better to update BBWin to C#, 64-bit, etc and include the option of calling Powershell scripts as part of the core client and as external scripts. I gather this isn't too hard to do from .Net, but not sure if there are any limitations on requiring code signing of scripts to do that, or whether system execution policy can be overridden (which would be a bad thing in some respects). David.
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I'm a fan of WinPSClient and would like to see that become more widely utilized. The chief drawback I have is no great way to run external scripts. Been working a lot with PowerShell lately so I might dive in one of these days.... Cheers. Darin -----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:53 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonableIf you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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Henrik, I would not advise anyone to go with the PS client especially in a production setting. I had it deployed on about 20 servers and ended up going back and removing it. It is VERY much a resource hog when it runs, pegging my servers at 100% processor for 30-60 seconds, and in my plain vanilla environment was unstable to boot. It was some time ago so the details are a bit fuzzy but it caused some major problems for me. Sorry for the late response.... been on vacation to San Francisco with the family.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:53 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:
it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable
If you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik
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FWIW, I've never seen the extreme resource hog behavior some have described with WinPSClient. Now it's entirely possible there were small spikes that I didn't notice, but definitely nothing in the 30+ second range. The systems where I ran this (at a previous job) were mostly Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2012 VMs on ESX. Generally speaking the underlying hosts were not overtaxed. For those seeing issues are you running older versions of PowerShell or Windows? Are the machines already operating at a fairly high utilization? Cheers.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Scot Kreienkamp
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:21 PM
To: Henrik Størner; xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Henrik,
I would not advise anyone to go with the PS client especially in a production setting. I had it deployed on about 20 servers and ended up going back and removing it. It is VERY much a resource hog when it runs, pegging my servers at 100% processor for 30-60 seconds, and in my plain vanilla environment was unstable to boot. It was some time ago so the details are a bit fuzzy but it caused some major problems for me.
Sorry for the late response.... been on vacation to San Francisco with the family.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:53 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:
it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable
If you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time. Scot
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Dugan, Darin D [ITSYS]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:16 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
FWIW, I've never seen the extreme resource hog behavior some have described with WinPSClient. Now it's entirely possible there were small spikes that I didn't notice, but definitely nothing in the 30+ second range. The systems where I ran this (at a previous job) were mostly Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows Server 2012 VMs on ESX. Generally speaking the underlying hosts were not overtaxed. For those seeing issues are you running older versions of PowerShell or Windows? Are the machines already operating at a fairly high utilization?
Cheers.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Scot Kreienkamp
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:21 PM
To: Henrik Størner; xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
Henrik,
I would not advise anyone to go with the PS client especially in a production setting. I had it deployed on about 20 servers and ended up going back and removing it. It is VERY much a resource hog when it runs, pegging my servers at 100% processor for 30-60 seconds, and in my plain vanilla environment was unstable to boot. It was some time ago so the details are a bit fuzzy but it caused some major problems for me.
Sorry for the late response.... been on vacation to San Francisco with the family.
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:53 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 22-07-2013 15:20, Neil Simmonds wrote:
it appears that BBWin may not be fit for purpose in the near future. I've looked at MrBig and WinPSClient but MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code and WinPSClient hasn't been changed in 2 ¼ years. Is anyone aware of any other options or has anyone considered perhaps writing something? I'd look into it myself but I'm not a programmer so although my VBScript and Shell script abilities are reasonable
If you are not too scared to delve into Powershell, then I would really like you to dig into the WinPSClient. It does work - despite not having been changed for quite some time. The main problem with it appears to be that it is a bit ressource-consuming; Powershell is not the most effective scripting language. But it is one that is supported on all current versions of Windows ... and it does provide you with hooks into all of the Microsoft monitoring interfaces. As I understand, getting data with Powershell is just as "easy" as doing it in C#. Regards, Henrik This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you. This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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On 30-07-2013 16:32, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time.
My "gut feeling" is that it is the eventlog-scanning that causes many of these spikes - it certainly was/is with the old BBWin client, and I would suspect that WinPSClient has the same problem. Could be wrong - it's been quite some time since I delved into it. Regards, Henrik
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Might be with polling the services and processes as well. Just remembered that was part of the instability I saw. Sometimes the services or the processes lists would be incomplete or missing altogether. Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Incorporated 1284 N. Telegraph Rd. | Monroe, MI 48162 | user-9678697f1438@xymon.invalid | www.la-z-boy.com
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Størner
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:17 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 30-07-2013 16:32, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time.
My "gut feeling" is that it is the eventlog-scanning that causes many of these spikes - it certainly was/is with the old BBWin client, and I would suspect that WinPSClient has the same problem. Could be wrong - it's been quite some time since I delved into it. Regards, Henrik This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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On 31/07/13 1:17 AM, Henrik Størner wrote:
On 30-07-2013 16:32, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time.My "gut feeling" is that it is the eventlog-scanning that causes many of these spikes - it certainly was/is with the old BBWin client, and I would suspect that WinPSClient has the same problem. Could be wrong - it's been quite some time since I delved into it.
The eventlog scanning was unfinished business. The Get-EventLog cmdlet is very basic - from memory, despite it having options like -After it would in fact scan the entire event log every time. Get-WinEvent is the updated version - not sure if that was available on 2003. I'd started looking at the .Net eventlog stuff as a workaround and that was more promising, but since I log ship everything to a central server with syslog and process it there, eventlog stuff was not a high priority with me. David.
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It's my experience with the BBWin client that it's the Event log part that seems to be causing the memory leak. Even when you have a decent set of ignores it still has to scan all the recent messages and on a Domain Controller or some other busy system this can be quite a large amount of messages.
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-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of David Baldwin Sent: 31 July 2013 00:30 To: Henrik Størner Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 31/07/13 1:17 AM, Henrik Størner wrote:On 30-07-2013 16:32, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time.My "gut feeling" is that it is the eventlog-scanning that causes many of these spikes - it certainly was/is with the old BBWin client, and I would suspect that WinPSClient has the same problem. Could be wrong - it's been quite some time since I delved into it.The eventlog scanning was unfinished business. The Get-EventLog cmdlet is very basic - from memory, despite it having options like -After it would in fact scan the entire event log every time. Get-WinEvent is the updated version - not sure if that was available on 2003. I'd started looking at the .Net eventlog stuff as a workaround and that was more promising, but since I log ship everything to a central server with syslog and process it there, eventlog stuff was not a high priority with me. David. -- David Baldwin - Senior Systems Administrator (Datacentres + Networks) Information and Communication Technology Services Australian Sports Commission http://ausport.gov.au Tel 02 62147830 Fax 02 62141830 PO Box 176 Belconnen ACT 2616 user-cbbf693f2c89@xymon.invalid Leverrier Street Bruce ACT 2617 Keep up to date with what's happening in Australian sport visit http://www.ausport.gov.au This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender.
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list Malcolm Hunter
Simple enough to prove. For those of you having memory leak issues, just disable the msgs agent by commenting out the dll section in bbwin.
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From: Neil Simmonds
Sent: 08/01/13 09:14 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
It's my experience with the BBWin client that it's the Event log part that seems to be causing the memory leak. Even when you have a decent set of ignores it still has to scan all the recent messages and on a Domain Controller or some other busy system this can be quite a large amount of messages.
-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of David Baldwin Sent: 31 July 2013 00:30 To: Henrik Størner Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 31/07/13 1:17 AM, Henrik Størner wrote:On 30-07-2013 16:32, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:Couldn't tell you what version of PS I was running, but it was the current one of the time. I never saw anything but a small spike reported back to Xymon, so if you're looking there you won't see them. I only saw them when I was watching the task manager on the server itself. The servers were sitting between 10-15% usage generally, and would only spike when the WinPSClient ran. This was on 2008R2 VM's on ESX4 at the time.My "gut feeling" is that it is the eventlog-scanning that causes many of these spikes - it certainly was/is with the old BBWin client, and I would suspect that WinPSClient has the same problem. Could be wrong - it's been quite some time since I delved into it.The eventlog scanning was unfinished business. The Get-EventLog cmdlet is very basic - from memory, despite it having options like -After it would in fact scan the entire event log every time. Get-WinEvent is the updated version - not sure if that was available on 2003. I'd started looking at the .Net eventlog stuff as a workaround and that was more promising, but since I log ship everything to a central server with syslog and process it there, eventlog stuff was not a high priority with me. David. -- David Baldwin - Senior Systems Administrator (Datacentres + Networks) Information and Communication Technology Services Australian Sports Commission http://ausport.gov.au Tel 02 62147830 Fax 02 62141830 PO Box 176 Belconnen ACT 2616 user-cbbf693f2c89@xymon.invalid Leverrier Street Bruce ACT 2617 Keep up to date with what's happening in Australian sport visit http://www.ausport.gov.au This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender.
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list Ulric Eriksson
On 07/22/2013 03:20 PM, Neil Simmonds wrote:
MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code
Who am I then? :) Ulric
list Massimo Morsiani
Hi Ulric, does MrBig support centralized configuration as BBWin? Thanks. Regards. Massimo Morsiani Information Technology Dept. ------ Gilbarco S.r.l. via de' Cattani, 220/G 50145 Firenze, Italy tel: +39-055-30941 fax: +39-055-318603 email: user-32025d8bd22e@xymon.invalid web: http://www.gilbarco.it
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Ulric Eriksson
Sent: giovedì 1 agosto 2013 19:40
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client
On 07/22/2013 03:20 PM, Neil Simmonds wrote:MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the code
Who am I then? :) Ulric
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list Ulric Eriksson
On 08/02/2013 11:07 AM, Morsiani, Massimo wrote:
Hi Ulric, does MrBig support centralized configuration as BBWin?
I don't know how BBWin works in that regard, but yes, MrBig has a central configuration daemon for this purpose. See here: http://mrbig.365-24.se/Doc/config.php Ulric
list Malcolm Hunter
BBWin works (mostly) the same as the Xymon client - it downloads the clientlocal.cfg from the server. I say "mostly", because it doesn't work with some settings - particularly event logs. Does MiniCFG push the config to the clients? Malcolm
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----- Original Message ----- From: Ulric Eriksson Sent: 08/02/13 11:53 AM To: Morsiani, Massimo Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 08/02/2013 11:07 AM, Morsiani, Massimo wrote: > Hi Ulric, > > does MrBig support centralized configuration as BBWin? > I don't know how BBWin works in that regard, but yes, MrBig has a central configuration daemon for this purpose. See here: http://mrbig.365-24.se/Doc/config.php Ulric -- BBWin Development - The Windows client for Big Brother and Xymon http://bbwin.sourceforge.net http://xymon.sourceforge.net
list Ulric Eriksson
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On 08/02/2013 01:44 PM, Malcolm Hunter wrote:
BBWin works (mostly) the same as the Xymon client - it downloads the clientlocal.cfg from the server. I say "mostly", because it doesn't work with some settings - particularly event logs. Does MiniCFG push the config to the clients?
The opposite: the client pulls the client from minicfg. Ulric
list Neil Simmonds
My apologies Ulric, I based the assumption on the fact that it doesn't seem to have changed in 2 years.
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-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Ulric Eriksson Sent: 01 August 2013 18:40 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 07/22/2013 03:20 PM, Neil Simmonds wrote:MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the codeWho am I then? :) Ulric
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list Aiquen Eldar
Hello I took a look at the webpage for mrbig http://mrbig.365-24.se/, and there it is stated that no one is maintaining the code. If you still are maintaining it Ulric, do you keep it some where accessible to the public? //Calle On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Neil Simmonds <
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My apologies Ulric, I based the assumption on the fact that it doesn't seem to have changed in 2 years.-----Original Message----- From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Ulric Eriksson Sent: 01 August 2013 18:40 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Windows Client On 07/22/2013 03:20 PM, Neil Simmonds wrote:MrBig seems to have no one maintaining the codeWho am I then? :) UlricName & Registered Office: EXPRESS GIFTS LIMITED, 2 GREGORY ST, HYDE, CHESHIRE, ENGLAND, SK14 4TH, Company No. 00718151. Express Gifts Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Findel PLC and the recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Findel PLC. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Findel Plc reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please notify our IT helpdesk on +44(0) 1254 303030
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