Question about next Hobbit release (NOT "when is it due")
list Gary Baluha
Quick question about the next version of Hobbit... Currently in 4.2.0 (latest patches), the "info" page doesn't correctly show the alert rules when using the GROUP directive. (I believe this was mentioned before on this mailing list). I'm just curious if the feature set for 4.3.0 (or whatever the next version will be numbered) has been frozen, and if this will be fixed. If it's not frozen and not currently in the code, would it be possible to add it to the next version?
list Henrik Størner
Nothing's frozen (global warming and all ...), but I need to work out a way to display the alert/GROUP info in a sensible manner. Henrik
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:17:55PM -0400, Gary Baluha wrote:Quick question about the next version of Hobbit... Currently in 4.2.0 (latest patches), the "info" page doesn't correctly show the alert rules when using the GROUP directive. (I believe this was mentioned before on this mailing list). I'm just curious if the feature set for 4.3.0 (or whatever the next version will be numbered) has been frozen, and if this will be fixed. If it's not frozen and not currently in the code, would it be possible to add it to the next version?
list Vernon Everett
Anybody feel like updating this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparison NOTICE: This email and any attachments are confidential. They may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. You must not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete both messages and all attachments.
list Pkc_mls
Everett, Vernon a écrit :
Anybody feel like updating this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparison
the author seems to be involved with zabbix plugins and munin monitoring. see http://www.zabbix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:federico. I'm quite surprised hobbit (the page at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparison was created the 9th of nov. 2007) had no trend capabilities, no plugins, and everything was stored in memory at this time. and there is also nothing mentionned about commercial products, even if the page is titled "A short comparison between the most common network monitoring systems".
list Buchan Milne
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On Monday 17 March 2008 11:45:00 pkc_mls wrote:
Everett, Vernon a écrit :Anybody feel like updating this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparisonthe author seems to be involved with zabbix plugins and munin monitoring. see http://www.zabbix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:federico. I'm quite surprised hobbit (the page at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparison was created the 9th of nov. 2007) had no trend capabilities, no plugins, and everything was stored in memory at this time. and there is also nothing mentionned about commercial products, even if the page is titled "A short comparison between the most common network monitoring systems".
I've improved the accuracy of the Hobbit contents, I don't want to adjust the content further without discussion ... Regards, Buchan
list Josh Luthman
Well the way I see it... Probably should change: Charts = No Not sure what these are: Agent = Yes Everything else looks to be accurate. Was there another row someone wanted to throw in there that is "exclusive" to Hobbit maybe?
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On 3/17/08, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Monday 17 March 2008 11:45:00 pkc_mls wrote:Everett, Vernon a écrit :Anybody feel like updating this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparisonthe author seems to be involved with zabbix plugins and munin monitoring. see http://www.zabbix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:federico. I'm quite surprised hobbit (the page at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_monitoring_comparison was created the 9th of nov. 2007) had no trend capabilities, no plugins, and everything was stored in memory at this time. and there is also nothing mentionned about commercial products, even if the page is titled "A short comparison between the most common network monitoring systems".I've improved the accuracy of the Hobbit contents, I don't want to adjust the content further without discussion ... Regards, Buchan
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list Buchan Milne
On Monday 17 March 2008 15:06:17 Josh Luthman wrote:
Well the way I see it... Probably should change: Charts = No
I suspect this is not trend graphs (I changed trends to "Yes"), but I am not sure. It could relate to something like "pie chart of percentage of services critical" or similar.
Not sure what these are: Agent = Yes
That the monitoring tool has or requires an agent (e.g. hobbit-client, BBWin etc.) to be installed on the monitored servers (e.g. some systems are "agent-less", because they don't have a specific agent, but rely, say, on SNMP only).
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Everything else looks to be accurate. Was there another row someone wanted to throw in there that is "exclusive" to Hobbit maybe?
You would have to know all the other monitoring systems to know whether it is exclusive, and fill the new row in for them ... Regards, Buchan
list Gary Baluha
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Nothing's frozen (global warming and all ...), but I need to work out
Hahah, nice one! ;-)
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Henrik On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:17:55PM -0400, Gary Baluha wrote:Quick question about the next version of Hobbit... Currently in 4.2.0 (latest patches), the "info" page doesn't correctly show the alert rules when using the GROUP directive. (I believe this was mentioned before on this mailing list). I'm just curious if the feature set for 4.3.0 (or whatever the next version will be numbered) has been frozen, and if this will be fixed. If it's not frozen and not currently in the code, would it be possible to add it to the next version?
list Josh Luthman
The way I see trends being is a line graph, as those produced by Hobbit. Does anyone else see things this way? I see, thanks for the explanation on the agent =) If you don't know, mark "don't know" or "?" The point of a Wiki page is that there is a gathering of information from multiple sources. Not one person is supposed to the answer for each of the tools!
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On 3/17/08, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Monday 17 March 2008 15:06:17 Josh Luthman wrote:Well the way I see it... Probably should change: Charts = NoI suspect this is not trend graphs (I changed trends to "Yes"), but I am not sure. It could relate to something like "pie chart of percentage of services critical" or similar.Not sure what these are: Agent = YesThat the monitoring tool has or requires an agent (e.g. hobbit-client, BBWin etc.) to be installed on the monitored servers (e.g. some systems are "agent-less", because they don't have a specific agent, but rely, say, on SNMP only).Everything else looks to be accurate. Was there another row someone wanted to throw in there that is "exclusive" to Hobbit maybe?You would have to know all the other monitoring systems to know whether it is exclusive, and fill the new row in for them ... Regards, Buchan
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list Buchan Milne
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On Monday 17 March 2008 15:50:47 Josh Luthman wrote:
The way I see trends being is a line graph, as those produced by Hobbit. Does anyone else see things this way?
Yes, that is what I understood, which is why I changed trending to Yes. However, I suspect they mean something else by "Charts" (e.g. pie charts etc.).
list Josh Luthman
Ooh, I see. Also, Buchan - you're adding email addresses in your response. All you have to do is retain the subject and reply to user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid so it will be distributed to everyone =) Does anyone know of additional features that we should be putting on the Wiki page?
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On 3/17/08, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:On Monday 17 March 2008 15:50:47 Josh Luthman wrote:The way I see trends being is a line graph, as those produced by Hobbit. Does anyone else see things this way?Yes, that is what I understood, which is why I changed trending to Yes. However, I suspect they mean something else by "Charts" (e.g. pie charts etc.).
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list Bruce White
Not sure but here are some ideas. Installation and configuration change ease? Identifies status change in the last 24 hours? Ease of changing how monitored host appears in user interface? Thickness of the client? Built in report generation? Availability reporting? ......Bruce
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Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit on Wikipedia
Ooh, I see. Also, Buchan - you're adding email addresses in your response.
All you have to do is retain the subject and reply to user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> so it will be distributed to everyone =)
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Does anyone know of additional features that we should be putting on the
Wiki page?
On 3/17/08, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid
<mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> > wrote:
On Monday 17 March 2008 15:50:47 Josh Luthman wrote:The way I see trends being is a line graph, as those produced by Hobbit. Does anyone else see things this way?
Yes, that is what I understood, which is why I changed trending to Yes. However, I suspect they mean something else by "Charts" (e.g. pie charts etc.). -- Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
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list Josh Luthman
Installation and configuration change ease?
Definitely
Identifies status change in the last 24 hours?
Starts to get a tad specific IMO
Ease of changing how monitored host appears in user interface?
Definitely, though I would base it on ease, rather type of interface. It is easy for *nix gurus to use Vim. It is not easy for Windows users to use
Vim =) Thickness of the client?
Thickness..?
Built in report generation?
Definitely
Availability reporting?
Definitely
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On 3/17/08, White, Bruce <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Not sure but here are some ideas. Installation and configuration change ease? Identifies status change in the last 24 hours? Ease of changing how monitored host appears in user interface? Thickness of the client? Built in report generation? Availability reporting? ……Bruce *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2008 3:18 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Hobbit on Wikipedia Ooh, I see. Also, Buchan - you're adding email addresses in your response. All you have to do is retain the subject and reply to user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid so it will be distributed to everyone =) Does anyone know of additional features that we should be putting on the Wiki page? On 3/17/08, *Buchan Milne* <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote: On Monday 17 March 2008 15:50:47 Josh Luthman wrote:The way I see trends being is a line graph, as those produced by Hobbit. Does anyone else see things this way?Yes, that is what I understood, which is why I changed trending to Yes. However, I suspect they mean something else by "Charts" (e.g. pie charts etc.). -- Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer *Note:* The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Fellowes, Inc.
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