temperature test and graphing
list Ryan Novosielski
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers! - -- - ---- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwX2V4ACgkQmb+gadEcsb6nRwCcDmc+VRyFrNYfR1EFo/5eQUK2 vcoAoL3AAfupoePxvVNb2eqXPqNLF3wp =iE5Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
list Tom Schmitt
Just a thought.
Check out [temperature] in /home/xymon/server/etc/hobbitgraph.cfg
You can change from C to F degrees also.
You'll probably have to adjust hobbitserver.cfg - see Help --> Custom
Graphs
Restart xymon
Thanks,
Tom Schmitt
Senior IT Staff - R&D
L-3 Communication Systems West
640 North 2200 West
P.O. Box 16850
Salt Lake City, UT XXXXX
Phone (XXX) XXX-XXXX
Cell (XXX) XXX-XXXX
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From: Ryan Novosielski [mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] temperature test and graphing
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Hi all,
I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is
obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've
since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if
I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no
desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the
source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find
anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.
Thanks for the pointers!
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list Vernon Everett
A few days ago, I posted a mini guide to making graphing work. It should have all the info you need to do what you need to do. Cheers V
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, <user-9c1ae820b621@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Just a thought.
Check out [temperature] in /home/xymon/server/etc/hobbitgraph.cfg
You can change from C to F degrees also.
You'll probably have to adjust hobbitserver.cfg - see Help --> Custom
Graphs
Restart xymon
Thanks,
Tom Schmitt
Senior IT Staff - R&D
L-3 Communication Systems West
640 North 2200 West
P.O. Box 16850
Salt Lake City, UT XXXXX
Phone (XXX) XXX-XXXX
Cell (XXX) XXX-XXXX
eFax (XXX) XXX-XXXX
user-9c1ae820b621@xymon.invalid
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Novosielski [mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] temperature test and graphing
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Hi all,
I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is
obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've
since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if
I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no
desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the
source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find
anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.
Thanks for the pointers!
--
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|Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer
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\__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark
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list Ryan Novosielski
Where at? To the list? -- Sent from my Palm Pre
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On Jun 15, 2010 18:08, Vernon Everett <user-b3f8dacb72c8@xymon.invalid> wrote:
A few days ago, I posted a mini guide to making graphing work.
It should have all the info you need to do what you need to do.
Cheers
V
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, <user-9c1ae820b621@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Just a thought.
Check out [temperature] in /home/xymon/server/etc/hobbitgraph.cfg
You can change from C to F degrees also.
You'll probably have to adjust hobbitserver.cfg - see Help --> Custom
Graphs
Restart xymon
Thanks,
Tom Schmitt
Senior IT Staff - R&D
L-3 Communication Systems West
640 North 2200 West
P.O. Box 16850
Salt Lake City, UT 84116
Phone (XXX) XXX-XXXX
Cell (XXX) XXX-XXXX
eFax (XXX) XXX-XXXX
user-9c1ae820b621@xymon.invalid
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Novosielski [mailto:user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] temperature test and graphing
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Hi all,
I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is
obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've
since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if
I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no
desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the
source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find
anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.
Thanks for the pointers!
--
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|Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer
|$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922)
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list Buchan Milne
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On Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:49:50 Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.
How are you collecting this info? devmon has quite a few templates that have a 'temp' test, and the example entries for hobbitgraph.cfg shipped with it should work for all the devices for which temp tests are provided (many cisco routers/switches, HP servers, Dell servers, APC UPSs). Regards, Buchan
list Ryan Novosielski
From reading the documentation, it appears as if so long as you get the temperature script from Deadcat (which I've got), and call the test "temperature," graphing happens automagically. All I want to do is change the name of the test but still have this happen. I tried just changing the name in the file that is in server/etc (I forget which right now, but the two places it appears in the file are the GRAPH and TEST2RRD variables). Presently, though, there is not even an RRD file that results from having the "temp" test running. Maybe just adding --extra-tests="temp" might do it on the hobbit_rrd line? Custom graphing is another story, and I am also trying to get that working for the env test of an APC UPS but for the Deadcat script, it's supposed to be built in.
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On Jun 16, 2010 4:06, Buchan Milne <user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:49:50 Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is
> obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've
> since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if
> I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no
> desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the
> source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find
> anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.
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How are you collecting this info?
devmon has quite a few templates that have a 'temp' test, and the example
entries for hobbitgraph.cfg shipped with it should work for all the devices
for which temp tests are provided (many cisco routers/switches, HP servers,
Dell servers, APC UPSs).
Regards,
Buchan
list Ryan Novosielski
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story.
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On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers!
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list Ryan Novosielski
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pardon me -- this message was apparently in my outgoing mail and not delivered until now. I did get a bit of information from some others. I still do not know how this one test functions as a built-in process, however, so I guess it is true that that part was not answered. Is the temperature test hard-coded in the source code for graphing?
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On 07/20/2010 01:41 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all,I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this.Thanks for the pointers!
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list W.J.M. Nelis
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Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers!
Look at hobbitgraph.cfg: there is a section called temperature, but none called temp. Regards, Wim Nelis. ******************************************************************************************************* The NLR disclaimer (http://www.nlr.nl/emaildisclaimer) is valid for NLR e-mail messages. *******************************************************************************************************
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Yeah, that I changed to [temp]. I'm assuming what I should be looking for are temp*.rrd files. If they are not there, is the client or the server not generating them? Where might I look to see why that is not happening? -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 21, 2010 8:17, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote: Ryan Novosielski wrote: > Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. > > On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is >> obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've >> since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if >> I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no >> desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the >> source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find >> anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. >> >> Thanks for the pointers! >>
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Look at hobbitgraph.cfg: there is a section called temperature, but none called temp. Regards, Wim Nelis. ******************************************************************************************************* The NLR disclaimer (http://www.nlr.nl/emaildisclaimer) is valid for NLR e-mail messages. *******************************************************************************************************
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Yeah, that I changed to [temp]. I'm assuming what I should be looking for are temp*.rrd files. If they are not there, is the client or the server not generating them? Where might I look to see why that is not happening?
If the test is called temp, and you've added it in hobbitserver.cfg in TEST2RRD and optionally GRAPHS, and you've defined SPLITNCV_temp, you should find files called ^temp\.(.+)\.rrd$ (parameter of FNPATTERN). Did you read about custom graphs in Xymon, such as http://pto.linuxbog.dk/hobbit/help/howtograph.html ?
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On Jul 21, 2010 8:17, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote: Ryan Novosielski wrote:Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers!Look at hobbitgraph.cfg: there is a section called temperature, but none called temp. Regards, Wim Nelis.
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Ryan Novosielski wrote:Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers!On Jul 21, 2010 8:17, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote: Look at hobbitgraph.cfg: there is a section called temperature, but none called temp.On 07/21/2010 08:28 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Yeah, that I changed to [temp]. I'm assuming what I should be looking for are temp*.rrd files. If they are not there, is the client or the server not generating them? Where might I look to see why that is not happening?
OK, I got further with this. As it turns out, this IS hard coded in the source code. First place is xymon-4.2.3/hobbitd/do_rrd.c as extracted from the source: - --- # diff do_rrd.c.orig do_rrd.c 389c389 < else if (strcmp(id, "temperature") == 0) res = do_temperature_rrd(hostname, testname, msg, tstamp); - ---
else if (strcmp(id, "temp") == 0) res = do_temperature_rrd(hostname, testname, msg, tstamp);
- --- ...but there's also an included file, ./rrd/do_temperature.c: - --- # diff do_temperature.c.orig do_temperature.c 16c16 < "DS:temperature:GAUGE:600:1:U", - ---
"DS:temp:GAUGE:600:1:U",
84c84
< savech = *(p+1); *(p+1) = '\0';
setupfn("temperature.%s.rrd", bol); *(p+1) = savech;
- --- savech = *(p+1); *(p+1) = '\0';
setupfn("temp.%s.rrd", bol); *(p+1) = savech;- --- ...I don't have graphs yet, but I think it might be the averages taking awhile. I guess we'll see. I do have RRD files now; anyone have any idea what to do if there are ultimately no graphs even with RRD files?
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list Vernon Everett
Are your sure you want to go down this path, simply to satisfy your sense of
aesthetics?
You will effectively be running a subtly, but significantly, non-standard
build, which could lead to tears in the future, either for yourself, or
those that come after you.
If you, in a year or two, forget this change, and do an upgrade to the
latest version, ALL your temperature stuff will break.
Likewise, I predict a world of pain for your successor, should you ever
leave this position, and they ask for help on the list, or try and upgrade.
From their perception, the Xymon upgrade will have broken the test, and
Xymon will be seen as a peice of rubbish, and because the change that caused
all the pain will be long forgotten, there will be no constructive help
available on the list.
At the end of the day, this is the joy of open source. You have the code,
and can modify it to your heart's content.
It is your installation, and your right to do with it as you please.
That being said, please think carefully before you do this.
In the long run, it might not be such a good idea.
Regards
Vernon
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1Ryan Novosielski wrote:Never got an answer on this. I'm hoping someone might know the story. On 06/15/2010 03:49 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:Hi all, I've not used the name "temperature" for this test because it is obnoxiously long, instead substituting "temp" for the test name. I've since found that Xymon will automatically graph my temperature tests if I use the name "temperature" instead of temp. But, I still have no desire to do that. Would changing it to "temp" require me to edit the source code and recompile, or is this in config files? I can't find anything on the web that necessarily addresses this. Thanks for the pointers!On Jul 21, 2010 8:17, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote: Look at hobbitgraph.cfg: there is a section called temperature, but none called temp.On 07/21/2010 08:28 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: Yeah, that I changed to [temp]. I'm assuming what I should be looking for are temp*.rrd files. If they are not there, is the client or the server not generating them? Where might I look to see why that is not happening?OK, I got further with this. As it turns out, this IS hard coded in the source code. First place is xymon-4.2.3/hobbitd/do_rrd.c as extracted from the source: - --- # diff do_rrd.c.orig do_rrd.c 389c389 < else if (strcmp(id, "temperature") == 0) res = do_temperature_rrd(hostname, testname, msg, tstamp); - ---else if (strcmp(id, "temp") == 0) res = do_temperature_rrd(hostname, testname, msg, tstamp);- --- ...but there's also an included file, ./rrd/do_temperature.c: - --- # diff do_temperature.c.orig do_temperature.c 16c16 < "DS:temperature:GAUGE:600:1:U", - ---"DS:temp:GAUGE:600:1:U",84c84 < savech = *(p+1); *(p+1) = '\0'; setupfn("temperature.%s.rrd", bol); *(p+1) = savech; - ---savech = *(p+1); *(p+1) = '\0'; setupfn("temp.%s.rrd", bol); *(p+1) = savech;- --- ...I don't have graphs yet, but I think it might be the averages taking awhile. I guess we'll see. I do have RRD files now; anyone have any idea what to do if there are ultimately no graphs even with RRD files? - -- - ---- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxHHacACgkQmb+gadEcsb638gCgqf12Rl5CX6qQItSJW4erIZQU tdUAoIO+t3ayjRzZewwzzcPd9HGuyZo+ =BZSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/21/2010 09:33 AM, W.J.M. Nelis wrote:
Yeah, that I changed to [temp]. I'm assuming what I should be looking for are temp*.rrd files. If they are not there, is the client or the server not generating them? Where might I look to see why that is not happening?If the test is called temp, and you've added it in hobbitserver.cfg in TEST2RRD and optionally GRAPHS, and you've defined SPLITNCV_temp, you should find files called ^temp\.(.+)\.rrd$ (parameter of FNPATTERN). Did you read about custom graphs in Xymon, such as http://pto.linuxbog.dk/hobbit/help/howtograph.html ?
I have, thanks. I wanted to investigate the opportunity to use a built-in test first, but I can see that there are some problems with that idea regardless. Also, though, doing things that way helped me to understand the graphing process a lot better. One thing that confused me the first time I set out to do this is that it appears to rely heavily on the output format of the status test. eg. It expects values of VALUE1: amount, VALUE2: amount... not something a whole lot more complicated. This makes using NCV to add graphing to an external script not a very simple idea, if I'm understanding that correctly. Do you know if that is a proper take on it, or should I read deeper?
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