Xymon Mailing List Archive search

BBLOCATION

16 messages in this thread

list Thomas Pedersen · Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:15:27 +0200 · 
Hi all,

Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts 
regardless of location tags ?

BR Thomas
list Henrik Størner · Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:34:25 +0200 ·
▸ quoted from Thomas Pedersen
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts 
regardless of location tags ?
Not sure if I understand what you mean.

BBLOCATION is only used when doing network tests. It's used to split
network tests among multiple Hobbit servers - each Hobbit server only 
tests those hosts that have a matching NET:$BBLOCATION in the bb-hosts
file.

BBPAGER is not used at all by Hobbit...


Henrik
list Thomas Pedersen · Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:41:43 +0200 · 
Sorry I didn't give clear info. I am running a mixed environment. Having a BB/bbgen server doing /BBPAGER/BBNET (localtion1) and a hobbit server doing BBNET (location2). Untill I fully migrate I want my BB server to page for all hosts tested from both the BB and hobbit server.

When I look at the info page it shows me what I want my the paging is not happening. Only for hosts with the same NET tag is paged for.

Thomas
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
 
Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts regardless of location tags ?
   
Not sure if I understand what you mean.

BBLOCATION is only used when doing network tests. It's used to split
network tests among multiple Hobbit servers - each Hobbit server only tests those hosts that have a matching NET:$BBLOCATION in the bb-hosts
file.

BBPAGER is not used at all by Hobbit...


Henrik
list Henrik Størner · Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:21:26 +0200 ·
▸ quoted from Thomas Pedersen
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:41:43AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
Sorry I didn't give clear info. I am running a mixed environment. Having a BB/bbgen server doing /BBPAGER/BBNET (localtion1) and a hobbit server doing BBNET (location2). Untill I fully migrate I want my BB server to page for all hosts tested from both the BB and hobbit server.

When I look at the info page it shows me what I want my the paging is not happening. Only for hosts with the same NET tag is paged for.
A Hobbit server running the network test tools doesn't generate the
"page" messages that a BB server need to start generating alerts.
(Since a Hobbit server would just discard those messages, there's
no point in the Hobbit network test server to spend time generating them).

So what you want is just not possible.


Regards,
Henrik
list Michael Nemeth · Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:29:33 -0400 · 
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done  on setting  up  fail over  servers?
I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I can now reproduce my setup.
But a true fail over server is needed.

Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will  be admining this too.

Disk test be nice  all  three number could be put in a graph:
$ /usr/bin/df -Pk
Filesystem          1024-blocks  Used  Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/vg00/lvol4       19532     5183    14349    27%   /home00

Some one ask about  having required fs ,  what the status on this.

There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!


How about move or duplicating the tip:
 What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?

Took me a while to find it.  These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind  people are
provided for!  Big issue for large corps!


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|     _p_       Mike Nemeth
|  ___| |_____  email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX          |><___________)          |               Home Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
|               Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/ |               Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/ |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Henrik Størner · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:12:45 +0000 (UTC) ·
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done  on setting  up  fail over  servers?
I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I can now reproduce my setup.
But a true fail over server is needed.
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will  be admining this too.
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to
implement it.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
Disk test be nice  all  three number could be put in a graph:
$ /usr/bin/df -Pk
Filesystem          1024-blocks  Used  Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/vg00/lvol4       19532     5183    14349    27%   /home00
The "used" and "Capacity" columns are currently tracked. Do you want to
track the "Available" count also ? It *can* be done by a bit of math
in the graph definition.


Some one ask about  having required fs ,  what the status on this.
It's in 4.1.2.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth


There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth


How about move or duplicating the tip:
What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?
Took me a while to find it.  These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind  people are
provided for!  Big issue for large corps!
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)


Regards,
Henrik
list Michael Nemeth · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:16:19 -0400 ·
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner

Henrik Storner wrote:

In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

 
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done  on setting  up  fail over  servers?
I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I can now reproduce my setup.
But a true fail over server is needed.
   
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

 
Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds  would work . Anyone know  if this is so?
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner
Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will  be admining this too.
   
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to
implement it.

 
Great!  in 4.1.2 ?
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner
Disk test be nice  all  three number could be put in a graph:
$ /usr/bin/df -Pk
Filesystem          1024-blocks  Used  Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/vg00/lvol4       19532     5183    14349    27%   /home00
   
The "used" and "Capacity" columns are currently tracked. Do you want to
track the "Available" count also ? It *can* be done by a bit of math
in the graph definition.


Yes,  for disk1 type  graphs ,  actually maybe a "new" disk2 type that would graphs all three per FS .
Its a management pleaser  thing.
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner
Some one ask about  having required fs ,  what the status on this.
   
It's in 4.1.2.


There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
   
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.


OK . It IS useful .  Here is the link to watcher :  http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner
How about move or duplicating the tip:
What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?
   
Took me a while to find it.  These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind  people are
provided for!  Big issue for large corps!
   
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)

 
Fair enough.  But how as a separate  help item ;  legend .  I would prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.  IM ALWAYS ask   what they  are.  
Regards,
Henrik
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|     _p_       Mike Nemeth
|  ___| |_____  email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX          |><___________)          |               Home Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
|               Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/ |               Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/ |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Henrik Størner · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:16:29 +0000 (UTC) ·
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

Henrik Storner wrote:
In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

 
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done  on setting  up  fail over  servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.

Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds  would work . Anyone know  if this is so?
Probably not, you would have to do a dump/import of each RRD file. Anyway,
the reason I suggested that you should copy over the RRD files was just to
keep your historical trends data. If you can live without that - and just
need to get monitoring up and running ASAP - then ignore the RRD files.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth


Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will  be admining this too.
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to
implement it.
Great!  in 4.1.2 ?
Nope. 4.1.2 is in "feature-freeze".
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.

OK . It IS useful .  Here is the link to watcher :  http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
Thanks, I tried google'ing it but couldn't find it.
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
How about move or duplicating the tip:
What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
Fair enough.  But how as a separate  help item ;  legend .  I would prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.  IM ALWAYS ask   what they  are.  
Add an entry to your ~hobbit/server/www/menu/menu_items.js file, like

	['Hobbit Icons', '/hobbit/help/hobbit-tips.html#icons'],


Henrik
list Michael Nemeth · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:37:52 -0400 · 
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of dependencies.

A dump/import of each RRD file?
Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems! Right now Ive done as you said, just coping the etc files; ready to fire
up if the main server goes.


Yes! the menu_items.js is perfect !
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner

Henrik Storner wrote:

In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

 
Henrik Storner wrote:
   
In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:


I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done  on setting  up  fail over  servers?
       
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

     
Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
   
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.

 
Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds  would work . Anyone know  if this is so?
   
Probably not, you would have to do a. A dump/import of each RRD filenyway,
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner
the reason I suggested that you should copy over the RRD files was just to
keep your historical trends data. If you can live without that - and just
need to get monitoring up and running ASAP - then ignore the RRD files.


Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will  be admining this too.
       
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to
implement it.
     
Great!  in 4.1.2 ?
   
Nope. 4.1.2 is in "feature-freeze".

 
There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
       
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.

     
OK . It IS useful .  Here is the link to watcher :  http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
   
Thanks, I tried google'ing it but couldn't find it.

 
How about move or duplicating the tip:
What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?
       
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
     
Fair enough.  But how as a separate  help item ;  legend .  I would prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.  IM ALWAYS ask   what they  are.     
Add an entry to your ~hobbit/server/www/menu/menu_items.js file, like

	['Hobbit Icons', '/hobbit/help/hobbit-tips.html#icons'],


Henrik


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|     _p_       Mike Nemeth
|  ___| |_____  email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX          |><___________)          |               Home Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
|               Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/ |               Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/ |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Dan Vande More · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:49:52 -0500 ·
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

Henrik Storner wrote:
In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:


I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done
on setting  up  fail over  servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have
another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX,
I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I
use the depot package from here:

http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/

I am running:

HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785

Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important
files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist
and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+
hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.

-Dan
list Henrik Størner · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:11:08 +0200 ·
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:37:52AM -0400, Michael Nemeth wrote:
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of 
dependencies.
Really ?? I just built rsync 2.6.6 from rsync.samba.org - doesn't seem
to require python at all (I did a "chmod 000 /usr/bin/python" first).
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth
A dump/import of each RRD file?
Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems! 
It's basically "rrdtool dump somefile.rrd >somefile.xml", then copy the
xml file over and do "rrdtool restore somefile.xml somefile.rrd".


Regards,
Henrik
list Winn Beutler · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:33:43 -0600 · 
I have used 'rdist' for many years to synchronize system.  It is simple to use and comes already available on many systems.
Winn
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Storner [mailto:user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:16 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Features request.


In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

Henrik Storner wrote:
In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:


I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done 
on setting  up  fail over  servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have
another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX,
I'd think you could also compile rsync.

Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds  would work . Anyone know  if this
is so?
Probably not, you would have to do a dump/import of each RRD file. Anyway,
the reason I suggested that you should copy over the RRD files was just to
keep your historical trends data. If you can live without that - and just
need to get monitoring up and running ASAP - then ignore the RRD files.


Next I just added 87 clients as a test.  I may want to remove them.  Yes
I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file,  but maybe the the
enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI?  Im not one for GUIs but others will 
be admining this too.
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to
implement it.
Great!  in 4.1.2 ?
Nope. 4.1.2 is in "feature-freeze".

There is  an old unix program out there called Watcher.  One nice
feature was it alerted you to large changes.
Like a  FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G .  (Or decreased by 100% ;rm
-rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.

OK . It IS useful .  Here is the link to watcher : 
http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
Thanks, I tried google'ing it but couldn't find it.

How about move or duplicating the tip:
What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ?
on the web page in the head or footer ?
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to
customize the templates any way you like :-)
Fair enough.  But how as a separate  help item ;  legend .  I would
prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page. 
IM ALWAYS ask   what they  are. 
Add an entry to your ~hobbit/server/www/menu/menu_items.js file, like

	['Hobbit Icons', '/hobbit/help/hobbit-tips.html#icons'],


Henrik



SPECIAL NOTICE

All information transmitted hereby is intended only for the use of the
addressee(s) named above and may contain confidential and privileged
information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution
of confidential and privileged information is prohibited. If the reader
of this message is not the intended recipient(s) or the employee or agent
responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that you must not read this transmission and that disclosure,
copying, printing, distribution or use of any of the information contained
in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

Anyone who receives confidential and privileged information in error should
notify us immediately by telephone and mail the original message to us at
the above address and destroy all copies.  To the extent any portion of this
communication contains public information, no such restrictions apply to that
information. (gate01)
list Michael Nemeth · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:34:48 -0400 · 
We don't have ANY hpux 11.11 system!  Thats the problem.! Lots more come 
with/for  11.11!
▸ quoted from Dan Vande More

Dan Vande More wrote:

On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 

In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:

   
Henrik Storner wrote:
     

In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> writes:


I complete lost my hobbit server for a day.   Is  there any  work done
on setting  up  fail over  servers?
         

The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.

       
Well no rsync  for hp-ux 11.  I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have
another HP  set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
     

rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX,
I'd think you could also compile rsync.
   

Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I
use the depot package from here:

http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/

I am running:

HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785

Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important
files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist
and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+
hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.

-Dan


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|     _p_       Mike Nemeth
|  ___| |_____  email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX          
|><___________)          |               Home Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
|               Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/ 
|               Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/ 
|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Michael Nemeth · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:39:39 -0400 · 
Well that's what the HP porting  site claims !  But with the addtional build  of  the popt library   and one ifdef fix it did compile;
I have not  tested it yet but Thanks.

Looks like I could script this rrdtool  dump.  So many a hp  to sun mirror would work for me!
▸ quoted from Henrik Størner

Henrik Stoerner wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:37:52AM -0400, Michael Nemeth wrote:
 
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of dependencies.
   
Really ?? I just built rsync 2.6.6 from rsync.samba.org - doesn't seem
to require python at all (I did a "chmod 000 /usr/bin/python" first).

 
A dump/import of each RRD file?
Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems!    
It's basically "rrdtool dump somefile.rrd >somefile.xml", then copy the
xml file over and do "rrdtool restore somefile.xml somefile.rrd".


Regards,
Henrik


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|     _p_       Mike Nemeth
|  ___| |_____  email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX          |><___________)          |               Home Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
|               Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/ |               Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/ |++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Dan Vande More · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:48:52 -0500 · 
Oh, whoops, my apologies. I not big into HPUX, so I wasn't aware that
11 != 11.11, I thought they were mostly the same. On a related note, I
know that I was not able to get rdist to compile on this sucker.
What I ended up doing for a few things on my HPUX machine was scp'ing,
which, fortunately, still works.

-Dan
▸ quoted from Michael Nemeth

On 9/28/05, Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We don't have ANY hpux 11.11 system!  Thats the problem.! Lots more come
with/for  11.11!

 Dan Vande More wrote:

 On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:


 In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>
writes:


 Henrik Storner wrote:


 In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>
writes:


 I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers?

 The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.


 Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have
another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.

 rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX,
I'd think you could also compile rsync.


Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I
use the depot package from here:

http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/

I am running:

HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785

Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important
files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist
and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+
hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.

-Dan


--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| _p_ Mike Nemeth
| ___| |_____ email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX
|><___________) | Home
Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
| Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/
| Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/
|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
list Adam Scheblein · Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:01:34 -0500 · 
I think you were thinking of 11iv1 and 11iv2 (where there was some
interface/usability changes and v2 runs on both the rp and rx boxes)
there is unfortunately a huge difference between 11 and 11i's

ADam
▸ quoted from Dan Vande More

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Vande More [mailto:user-f3c4c62d9d50@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:49 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Features request.

Oh, whoops, my apologies. I not big into HPUX, so I wasn't aware that
11 != 11.11, I thought they were mostly the same. On a related note, I
know that I was not able to get rdist to compile on this sucker.
What I ended up doing for a few things on my HPUX machine was scp'ing,
which, fortunately, still works.

-Dan

On 9/28/05, Michael Nemeth <user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 We don't have ANY hpux 11.11 system!  Thats the problem.! Lots more
come
with/for  11.11!

 Dan Vande More wrote:

 On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:


 In <user-935929efdec5@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth
<user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>
writes:


 Henrik Storner wrote:


 In <user-aad3c3f9111b@xymon.invalid> Michael Nemeth
<user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid>
writes:


 I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers?

 The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit
server,
and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from
your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare
box.


 Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have
another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.

 rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX,
I'd think you could also compile rsync.


Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I
use the depot package from here:

http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/

I am running:

HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785

Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important
files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist
and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+
hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.

-Dan


--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| _p_ Mike Nemeth
| ___| |_____ email(w) user-609d3fab5b2d@xymon.invalid Work: XXX XXX-XXXX
|><___________) | Home
Page:http://www.geocities.com/mjnemeth/
| Work Page:http://faraday.motown.lmco.com:3000/~nemethm/
| Work Page:http://ortsweb/~mnemeth/

|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++