Missing feature ?
list Becker Christian
Hello all, we have Xymon monitoring running on four sites, each site having ~400 devices to monitor. Xymon has replaced our "old" monitoring solution which was CA Unicenter. Having used CA Unicenter for many years now and now having changed to Xymon, I have two things that I cannot find: a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any "view" on a "higher level" isn't under red condition any longer - it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn't like the "All non green view" for any reason. b) The other thing is: for example, in Xymon I have a server on which I'm monitoring many services ( ~ 20 services). If one of those services fails or is administratively disabled, this service becomes red. Now I have the possibility to acknowledge this alert or to disable this test. But, if another service on the same server fails, I cannot recognize this, if the test is disabled. If it is acknowledged, it isn't clear by 100% which on is the most recent one that has failed. This could also affect a server that has many disks. If one disk get's filled by 100%, I cannot see if another disk get's also filled by 100% (if one doesn't like the "All non green view"). Is my thinking wrong? Regards Christian CHRISTIAN BECKER System Engineer CSC August-Horch-Strasse 28, 56070 Koblenz, Germany Global Outsourcing Services Central Region CSC * This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose * CSC Deutschland Services GmbH * Registered Office: Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Germany * Board of Directors: Gerhard Fercho (Chairman),Thomas Nebe, Peter Schmidt * Registered in Germany: HRB 7574, Wiesbaden
list Oliver
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Becker Christian
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<user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any “view” on a “higher level” isn’t under red condition any longer – it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn’t like the “All non green view” for any reason.
Have you looked at "admin > enable|disable"? If you have a 'red' alert, you can disable the test for a periodic amount of time or until it's resolved. The failed test will change from red to blue but the top level colour changes back to green. I think this satisfies both of your requests (but I only quoted the first one for brevity)
list Becker Christian
Thank you for your reply, but this doesn't meet my wishes ;-) As long as I disable a single test -services in my example- because one of my 20 services are "red", I do not recognize if another services also goes red...
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CHRISTIAN BECKER
System Engineer
CSC
August-Horch-Strasse 28, 56070 Koblenz, Germany
Global Outsourcing Services Central Region
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Von: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von oliver
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2012 15:00
An: xymon at xymon.com
Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ?
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Becker Christian
<user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any “view” on a “higher level” isn’t under red condition any longer – it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn’t like the “All non green view” for any reason.
Have you looked at "admin > enable|disable"? If you have a 'red' alert, you can disable the test for a periodic amount of time or until it's resolved. The failed test will change from red to blue but the top level colour changes back to green. I think this satisfies both of your requests (but I only quoted the first one for brevity) CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Deutschland Services GmbH • Registered Office: Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Germany • Board of Directors: Gerhard Fercho (Chairman),Thomas Nebe, Peter Schmidt • Registered in Germany: HRB 7574, Wiesbaden
list Paul Root
Oh, you are checking all 20 services in one test. One test is one test in xymon. It's on or its off. If you wrote a script to test all these services, then you could add into it, its own 'disable' function on that client machine. Should be pretty simple. If by services you are just talking about processes or ports or something like that. Then there is no granularity possible in Xymon for that. Paul Root - Senior Engineer Managed Services Systems - CenturyLink
-----Original Message----- From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Becker Christian Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:28 AM To: oliver; xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ?
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Thank you for your reply, but this doesn't meet my wishes ;-) As long as I disable a single test -services in my example- because one of my 20 services are "red", I do not recognize if another services also goes red... CHRISTIAN BECKER System Engineer CSC August-Horch-Strasse 28, 56070 Koblenz, Germany Global Outsourcing Services Central Region -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von oliver Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2012 15:00 An: xymon at xymon.com Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Becker Christian <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any “view” on a “higher level” isn’t under red condition any longer – it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn’t like the “All non green view” for any reason.Have you looked at "admin > enable|disable"? If you have a 'red' alert, you can disable the test for a periodic amount of time or until it's resolved. The failed test will change from red to blue but the top level colour changes back to green. I think this satisfies both of your requests (but I only quoted the first one for brevity) CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Deutschland Services GmbH • Registered Office: Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Germany • Board of Directors: Gerhard Fercho (Chairman),Thomas Nebe, Peter Schmidt • Registered in Germany: HRB 7574, Wiesbaden
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list Scot Kreienkamp
I think that's why he originally said the functionality was missing. :-) I agree, that would be nice to have so that a red on one (disk|service|whatever) doesn't mean that a second failure under the same test would likely not be caught. Scot
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From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Root, Paul
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:38 AM
To: 'Becker Christian'; oliver; xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ?
Oh, you are checking all 20 services in one test.
One test is one test in xymon. It's on or its off.
If you wrote a script to test all these services, then you could add into it, its own 'disable' function on that client machine. Should be pretty simple.
If by services you are just talking about processes or ports or something like that. Then there is no granularity possible in Xymon for that.
Paul Root - Senior Engineer
Managed Services Systems - CenturyLink
-----Original Message----- From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Becker Christian Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:28 AM To: oliver; xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? Thank you for your reply, but this doesn't meet my wishes ;-) As long as I disable a single test -services in my example- because one of my 20 services are "red", I do not recognize if another services also goes red... CHRISTIAN BECKER System Engineer CSC August-Horch-Strasse 28, 56070 Koblenz, Germany Global Outsourcing Services Central Region -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von oliver Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2012 15:00 An: xymon at xymon.com Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Becker Christian <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any “view” on a “higher level” isn’t under red condition any longer – it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn’t like the “All non green view” for any reason.Have you looked at "admin > enable|disable"? If you have a 'red' alert, you can disable the test for a periodic amount of time or until it's resolved. The failed test will change from red to blue but the top level colour changes back to green. I think this satisfies both of your requests (but I only quoted the first one for brevity) CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Deutschland Services GmbH • Registered Office: Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Germany • Board of Directors: Gerhard Fercho (Chairman),Thomas Nebe, Peter Schmidt • Registered in Germany: HRB 7574, Wiesbaden
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list Isaac W Traxler
I have run into the same issue. Basically, you have a tradeoff: fewer tests with less granular control vs. more tests with finer control. I have mostly shifted to a number of different tests to allow me to minimize the chances for me to miss additional failures. -- Isaac Traxler AIX,Linux Admin Louisiana State University user-4dfb0dbf036e@xymon.invalid High Performance Computing XXX-XXX-XXXX LONI AIX Clusters AIX, Linux Support On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:42:56 +0000
From: Scot Kreienkamp <user-462cf0b6d846@xymon.invalid>
To: "Root, Paul" <user-76fdb6883669@xymon.invalid>,
'Becker Christian' <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid>,
oliver <user-c44cbd0c692f@xymon.invalid>, "xymon at xymon.com" <xymon at xymon.com>
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Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? I think that's why he originally said the functionality was missing. :-) I agree, that would be nice to have so that a red on one (disk|service|whatever) doesn't mean that a second failure under the same test would likely not be caught. Scot -----Original Message----- From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Root, Paul Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:38 AM To: 'Becker Christian'; oliver; xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? Oh, you are checking all 20 services in one test. One test is one test in xymon. It's on or its off. If you wrote a script to test all these services, then you could add into it, its own 'disable' function on that client machine. Should be pretty simple. If by services you are just talking about processes or ports or something like that. Then there is no granularity possible in Xymon for that. Paul Root - Senior Engineer Managed Services Systems - CenturyLink-----Original Message----- From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Becker Christian Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:28 AM To: oliver; xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? Thank you for your reply, but this doesn't meet my wishes ;-) As long as I disable a single test -services in my example- because one of my 20 services are "red", I do not recognize if another services also goes red... CHRISTIAN BECKER System Engineer CSC August-Horch-Strasse 28, 56070 Koblenz, Germany Global Outsourcing Services Central Region -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] Im Auftrag von oliver Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juli 2012 15:00 An: xymon at xymon.com Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Missing feature ? On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Becker Christian <user-e4a19bfb94c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:a) In CA Unicenter you can acknowledge an red alert. After having acknowledged an red alert, this red alert changes to an orange alert, indicating that there is still a problem. The main advantage is, that any ?view? on a ?higher level? isn?t under red condition any longer ? it becomes yellow. This means, that a new red alert coming from the same server could be recognized in a better way. This could be useful if in Xymon somebody doesn?t like the ?All non green view? for any reason.Have you looked at "admin > enable|disable"? If you have a 'red' alert, you can disable the test for a periodic amount of time or until it's resolved. The failed test will change from red to blue but the top level colour changes back to green. I think this satisfies both of your requests (but I only quoted the first one for brevity) CSC ? This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose ? CSC Deutschland Services GmbH ? Registered Office: Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1, 65189 Wiesbaden, Germany ? Board of Directors: Gerhard Fercho (Chairman),Thomas Nebe, Peter Schmidt ? Registered in Germany: HRB 7574, WiesbadenThis communication is the property of CenturyLink and may contain confidential or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the communication and any attachments. This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.