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list Steve Holmes · Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:23:10 -0400 ·
Quick, and I hope, simple question. In Hobbit 4.2.0 I am just learning about
setting up the critical systems view. It appears that you can't have more
than one test defined for a given host or have a host cloned from more than
one master record. Is that true? The documentation only talks about having
one test in the test field and my testing indicates that that is also true.
So, if I have two critical services on one host or set of hosts (e.g. smbd
and httpd) how would I get those into the critical systems page?
Thanks,
Steve Holmes
Purdue University
list Greg Hubbard · Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:30:47 -0500 ·
I am *guessing* that you need to enter a record for each combination of host
and test, so if you want to track three tests as "critical" you will need
three records.

I never did understand the "master record" concept well enough to get it to
work so I ended up using  a bigger hammer when entering data.  Fortunately I
did not need to enter very much.

GLH
quoted from Steve Holmes

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Steve Holmes <user-ec1bf77b1b44@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Quick, and I hope, simple question. In Hobbit 4.2.0 I am just learning
about setting up the critical systems view. It appears that you can't have
more than one test defined for a given host or have a host cloned from more
than one master record. Is that true? The documentation only talks about
having one test in the test field and my testing indicates that that is also
true. So, if I have two critical services on one host or set of hosts (e.g.
smbd and httpd) how would I get those into the critical systems page?
Thanks,
Steve Holmes
Purdue University

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list Steve Holmes · Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:11:38 -0400 ·
Thanks Greg. Yes I found this on the list from nearly a year ago. Looks like
I have a lot of data entry ahead of me if I want to use this feature.
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2008/10/msg00349.html

Steve
quoted from Greg Hubbard

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Greg Hubbard <user-435e16ecfd6a@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I am *guessing* that you need to enter a record for each combination of
host and test, so if you want to track three tests as "critical" you will
need three records.

I never did understand the "master record" concept well enough to get it to
work so I ended up using  a bigger hammer when entering data.  Fortunately I
did not need to enter very much.

GLH

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Steve Holmes <user-ec1bf77b1b44@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Quick, and I hope, simple question. In Hobbit 4.2.0 I am just learning
about setting up the critical systems view. It appears that you can't have
more than one test defined for a given host or have a host cloned from more
than one master record. Is that true? The documentation only talks about
having one test in the test field and my testing indicates that that is also
true. So, if I have two critical services on one host or set of hosts (e.g.
smbd and httpd) how would I get those into the critical systems page?
Thanks,
Steve Holmes
Purdue University

--
Disclaimer:  1) all opinions are my own, 2) I may be completely wrong, 3)
my advice is worth at least as much as what you are paying for it, or your
money cheerfully refunded.
-- 

Truth never damages a cause that is just. -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
(1869-1948)
list Henrik Størner · Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:07:03 +0000 (UTC) ·
quoted from Steve Holmes
In <user-5376e33cd868@xymon.invalid> Steve Holmes <user-5425c7b245e1@xymon.invalid> writes:
Thanks Greg. Yes I found this on the list from nearly a year ago. Looks like
I have a lot of data entry ahead of me if I want to use this feature.
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2008/10/msg00349.html
I agree the critical systems editor could do with a better implementation.
Ideas are welcome.


Regards,
Henrik
list Steve Holmes · Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:35:45 -0400 ·
Henrik, the only thing I would be looking for currently is to be able to
create a template for a group of hosts (say all web servers) coupled with a
service (e.g. http) plus a template for another group (say samba servers)
coupled with a service (e.g. smbd) and then be able to clone a host from
BOTH of those templates (i.e. I have web servers which are also samba
servers and of course they are all critical).
So, it seems to me that if the logic of the editor and the processor were to
treat hostname+test as the key to the file and (here's the tricky part) the
key to link to when cloned, it would work. At least for me. I guess the
cloned record would have to include the test, too as part of the key.

I think the file would have something like

Web Servers|http|1|....|sjh...
Samba Servers|smbd|1|...sjh...
bigserver|http|=Web Servers-http
bigserver|smbd|=Samba Servers-smbd

or something like that. The logic would have to make the translation from
the link (=) to the key (e.g. Web Servers|http).

Is this making any sense?

Thanks,
quoted from Henrik Størner
Steve.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-5376e33cd868@xymon.invalid> Steve
Holmes <user-5425c7b245e1@xymon.invalid> writes:
Thanks Greg. Yes I found this on the list from nearly a year ago. Looks
like
I have a lot of data entry ahead of me if I want to use this feature.
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2008/10/msg00349.html
I agree the critical systems editor could do with a better implementation.
Ideas are welcome.


Regards,
Henrik

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quoted from Steve Holmes

Truth never damages a cause that is just. -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
(1869-1948)