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Thanks for that help earlier..

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list Todd Kleinert · Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:48:31 -0700 ·
Thanks for the help earlier. I've been able to run ./configure a number
of times now.. 

 
Stuck at a new place now; involving permissions. In the docs for hobbit,
it says to create a custom user, and have that user in its own group. It
mentioned that the hobbit user should NOT be a member of any other
groups. That's all fine and good, but shouldn't it [the user hobbit] be
a member of the apache group, so apache can read the 'hobbit'
directories (and write to them)?

 
Right now, I've got a webserver telling me: "You don't have permission
to access / on this server."

 
B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

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list Josh Luthman · Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:27:22 -0500 ·
Apache will need the xx5 bit to read and execute.  / is probably not
related to hobbit, did you grab the apache config made by ./configure
so you can get /hobbit/ ?
quoted from Todd Kleinert


On 12/29/07, Todd Kleinert <user-9ce5b9e970e8@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Thanks for the help earlier. I've been able to run ./configure a number
of times now..


Stuck at a new place now; involving permissions. In the docs for hobbit,
it says to create a custom user, and have that user in its own group. It
mentioned that the hobbit user should NOT be a member of any other
groups. That's all fine and good, but shouldn't it [the user hobbit] be
a member of the apache group, so apache can read the 'hobbit'
directories (and write to them)?


Right now, I've got a webserver telling me: "You don't have permission
to access / on this server."


B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX

Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX


	  <http://www.directpointe.com/>; 	


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list Todd Kleinert · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:21:52 -0700 ·
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get on
that soon. 

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff.. 
quoted from Josh Luthman

B. Todd Kleinert II


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333 South 520 West, #200
Lindon, Utah  84042
Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX
Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX
 
	
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-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:27 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..

Apache will need the xx5 bit to read and execute.  / is probably not
related to hobbit, did you grab the apache config made by ./configure
so you can get /hobbit/ ?


On 12/29/07, Todd Kleinert <user-9ce5b9e970e8@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Thanks for the help earlier. I've been able to run ./configure a
number
of times now..


Stuck at a new place now; involving permissions. In the docs for
hobbit,
it says to create a custom user, and have that user in its own group.
It
mentioned that the hobbit user should NOT be a member of any other
groups. That's all fine and good, but shouldn't it [the user hobbit]
be
a member of the apache group, so apache can read the 'hobbit'
directories (and write to them)?


Right now, I've got a webserver telling me: "You don't have permission
to access / on this server."


B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX

Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX


	  <http://www.directpointe.com/>; 	


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list Joe Sloan · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:31:44 -0800 ·
quoted from Todd Kleinert
Todd Kleinert wrote:
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get on
that soon. 

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff.. 
The configure script is for building hobbit. Since the hobbit rpm comes
already built, there is no need.

Joe
list Josh Luthman · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:08:53 -0500 ·
You'll need to jump in to the configuration - probably /etc/hobbit/*
quoted from Joe Sloan

On 12/30/07, Joe Sloan <user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Todd Kleinert wrote:
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get on
that soon.

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff..
The configure script is for building hobbit. Since the hobbit rpm comes
already built, there is no need.

Joe

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Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
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Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
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list Todd Kleinert · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:03:22 -0700 ·
Thanks Josh, and Joe. I found the files I was hunting for. 

 
Since that part of things is done for me, I now need to look for the
httpd.conf file example. Once I locate that, I can refit the info found
in the .cfg files into the apache conf, so that they're pointing to the
same places, have all the correct capabilities, permissions etc. 

 
Uhm, along these lines, I noticed something weird yesterday. Apache on
my fedora system had a directory structure already setup, not a big
surprise..however, it seems that apache was pointing to /var/www as
"document root" but then the directive below it was pointing to
/var/www/html - is this just a mistake on the part of the developer?
Shouldn't the directory options be for the /var/www too? It just seemed
weird to find that in the httpd.conf , when its obviously wrong. What
gives?
quoted from Josh Luthman

 
B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX

Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX

 
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From: Josh Luthman [mailto:user-4c45a83f15cb@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:09 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..

 
You'll need to jump in to the configuration - probably /etc/hobbit/*

On 12/30/07, Joe Sloan <user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid> wrote: 

Todd Kleinert wrote:
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with 
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get
on
that soon.

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure
script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff..
The configure script is for building hobbit. Since the hobbit rpm comes
already built, there is no need.

Joe


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Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX 
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
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Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Lárus Rafn Halldórsson · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:08:21 -0000 ·
When I compiled my hobbit server on Centos 5.1 I had to fix the permissions for the /home/hobbit/ directory.. it was 700.

 
use the chmod command to mod it to 755 and then you should be able to access the website.

 
Worked for me at least...

larus
quoted from Todd Kleinert

 
From: Todd Kleinert [mailto:user-9ce5b9e970e8@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 30. desember 2007 01:49
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..

 
Thanks for the help earlier. I've been able to run ./configure a number of times now.. 

 
Stuck at a new place now; involving permissions. In the docs for hobbit, it says to create a custom user, and have that user in its own group. It mentioned that the hobbit user should NOT be a member of any other groups. That's all fine and good, but shouldn't it [the user hobbit] be a member of the apache group, so apache can read the 'hobbit' directories (and write to them)?

 
Right now, I've got a webserver telling me: "You don't have permission to access / on this server."

 
B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX

Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX

 
	  <http://www.directpointe.com/>; 	 
 

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list Joe Sloan · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:22:26 -0800 ·
quoted from Todd Kleinert
Todd Kleinert wrote:
Thanks Josh, and Joe. I found the files I was hunting for.

 
Since that part of things is done for me, I now need to look for the
httpd.conf file example. Once I locate that, I can refit the info found
in the .cfg files into the apache conf, so that they’re pointing to the
same places, have all the correct capabilities, permissions etc.
I didn't have to do that - I just dropped hobbit-apache.conf into the
appropriate directory and that took care of the apache configuration for
hobbit, once apache was restarted. BTW I found that the hobbit rpm was
full of redhat-isms, but I was able to adapt it to my suse servers
without too much trouble.
quoted from Todd Kleinert

Uhm, along these lines, I noticed something weird yesterday. Apache on
my fedora system had a directory structure already setup, not a big
surprise..however, it seems that apache was pointing to /var/www as
“document root” but then the directive below it was pointing to
/var/www/html – is this just a mistake on the part of the developer?
Shouldn’t the directory options be for the /var/www too? It just seemed
weird to find that in the httpd.conf , when its obviously wrong. What gives?
That should probably be /var/www/html everywhere since that is the
document root on redhat -

Joe
list Josh Luthman · Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:27:00 -0500 ·
After you set 755 on ~hobbit you need to add Alias and ScriptAlias
directives.  Basically DocumentRoot is irrelavent.
quoted from Lárus Rafn Halldórsson


On 12/30/07, Lárus Rafn Halldórsson <user-415184c713bc@xymon.invalid> wrote:
When I compiled my hobbit server on Centos 5.1 I had to fix the permissions
for the /home/hobbit/ directory.. it was 700.


use the chmod command to mod it to 755 and then you should be able to access
the website.


Worked for me at least...

larus


From: Todd Kleinert [mailto:user-9ce5b9e970e8@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 30. desember 2007 01:49
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..


Thanks for the help earlier. I've been able to run ./configure a number of
times now..


Stuck at a new place now; involving permissions. In the docs for hobbit, it
says to create a custom user, and have that user in its own group. It
mentioned that the hobbit user should NOT be a member of any other groups.
That's all fine and good, but shouldn't it [the user hobbit] be a member of
the apache group, so apache can read the 'hobbit' directories (and write to
them)?


Right now, I've got a webserver telling me: "You don't have permission to
access / on this server."


B. Todd Kleinert II


Network Operations Technician


333 South 520 West, #200

Lindon, Utah  84042

Office: XXX.XXX.XXXX

Fax: XXX.XXX.XXXX


	  <http://www.directpointe.com/>; 	


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 Thank you.


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Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
list Todd Kleinert · Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:48:37 -0700 ·
To get my apache to autostart, at boot I did this: 
  
 Fedora Core 1

    * login as root: su - (the dash allows your /sbin dir to be in $PATH)
    * type: service httpd start (this starts apache)
    * type: chkconfig httpd on (this sets apache to start in your current init) 

I added these lines into my httpd.conf, tho its just from memory, is this the right options??

   Alias /hobbit "/var/lib/hobbit/"
   <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">

     Options Indexes FollowSymlinks ExecCGI Includes

     AllowOverride None

     Order allow,deny
     Allow from all

   </Directory>

then restarted apache

 apachectl restart

then browsed to http://localhost/hobbit & what did I see? 401 message? 500 error? Nope.. the monitor was FINALLY working.. yay

Thanks guys for yer help
quoted from Joe Sloan
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sloan [mailto:user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 11:31 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..
 
Todd Kleinert wrote:
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get on
that soon. 

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff.. 
The configure script is for building hobbit. Since the hobbit rpm comes
already built, there is no need.

Joe
list Josh Luthman · Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:35:13 -0500 ·
You will need two more alias directives I believe.
quoted from Todd Kleinert


On 12/31/07, Todd Kleinert <user-9ce5b9e970e8@xymon.invalid> wrote:
To get my apache to autostart, at boot I did this:

 Fedora Core 1

    * login as root: su - (the dash allows your /sbin dir to be in $PATH)
    * type: service httpd start (this starts apache)
    * type: chkconfig httpd on (this sets apache to start in your current
init)

I added these lines into my httpd.conf, tho its just from memory, is this
the right options??

   Alias /hobbit "/var/lib/hobbit/"
   <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">

     Options Indexes FollowSymlinks ExecCGI Includes

     AllowOverride None

     Order allow,deny
     Allow from all

   </Directory>

then restarted apache

 apachectl restart

then browsed to http://localhost/hobbit & what did I see? 401 message? 500
error? Nope.. the monitor was FINALLY working.. yay

Thanks guys for yer help
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sloan [mailto:user-b1d2c84d244b@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 11:31 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Thanks for that help earlier..

Todd Kleinert wrote:
Yeah, I did put those lines into my httpd.conf file, and fussed with
that for a couple hours.. Due to some user-related issues, I ended up
reloading fedora and starting over, again. This time I used the RPM
install, and would like to stick with this one. So, I need to get back
into the apache files on this new OS and add in those lines, will get on
that soon.

With this RPM version, what directory can I find the ./configure script?
I poked around and found the actual .cfg files for hobbit, where these
tidbits are implemented, but I was getting used to that ./configure
stuff..
The configure script is for building hobbit. Since the hobbit rpm comes
already built, there is no need.

Joe

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Wayne St
Suite XXXX
Troy, OH XXXXX

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer