Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
list Robert Holden
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort. See attached. (sanitized version). Robert
list Rafal Roginela
Hi, That is great work!!! It looks really good. I for one am in favor of skins.. I love the idea. Thank you, Rafal Roginela Office (XXX) XXX-XXXX x109 Fax (XXX) XXX-XXXX This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
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From: Robert Holden [mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:58 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another
can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find
anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we
changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one
change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other
changes were to the web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the
screen refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the
footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to
see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins'
(never really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
list Josh Luthman
That is GREAT! Would you be able to share with me how you stuck the company logo up top? Josh Luthman Office: XXX-XXX-XXXX Direct: XXX-XXX-XXXX XXXX Wayne St Suite XXXX Troy, OH XXXXX Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Robert Holden <user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid>wrote:
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort. See attached. (sanitized version). Robert
list S Aiello
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On Monday 11 August 2008 12:57:38 Robert Holden wrote:
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort.
that is very impressive and looks very clean. as to skinning, henrik had mentioned in a past email thread that bbgen, the piece of hobbit that generated html, is not the most updated piece of hobbit. that people were most welcomed to create their own web 'frontend' to hobbit. i believe that thread then moved into the configuration files of hobbit, since bb-hosts defines both hosts to be monitored and the display layout. talk of how to reorganize hobbit configuration files ensued and the topic fizzeled out. i think henrik mentioned that he was considering a change in bb-hosts or how hobbit is configured, and if a 3rd party person was to write a alternative web interface, the configs would really need to be nailed down first. as to your skin the only piece i would really miss is the background page color. seems yours is always white. maybe change the top blue swirly image to different colors.. dun know. -= excuse lack of caps, vmware messes up my keyboard =- -steve
list Rich Smrcina
This is very cool. If possible share your modifications on the Shire.
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Robert Holden wrote:With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort. See attached. (sanitized version). Robert
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list Josh Krause
Would love to get a hold of what you did, i like it. Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Holden <user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Monday, 11 Aug 2008 1:33 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
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list Galen Johnson
There has been some discussion over the years but I don't think anything significant. I've always liked the idea of a "brandable" hobbit. We could then add a new "themes" section to The Shire. :-) It would be nice if you could just point to a theme folder or maybe just symlink www to a theme. If you could write up a tutorial on what you did that could go up on The Shire...that'd be awesome. It'd be really awesome if we could make it brandable to the sub-page level for those of us who monitor multiple customer's sites. =G=
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From: Robert Holden [mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:58 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
list T.J. Yang
We did some GUI change also. We use yui-ext as the frontend to replace tigra. Will check into sourceforge once the personal/company info is taken out. T.J. Yang
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:32:02 -0500
From: user-744e62462615@xymon.invalid
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
Hi,
That is great work!!! It looks really
good. I for one am in favor of skins.. I love the idea.
Thank you,
Rafal
Roginela
Office (XXX) XXX-XXXX x109
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From: Robert Holden
[mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008
11:58 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit
(eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another
can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my
searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of
hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to
the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the
web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime
the screen refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also
below the footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see
if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really
cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
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list Robert Holden
I like the term "themes" more than skins. I will use that from now on. :-)
I will try to get together 'diffs' list or something to show what changes I
have made. My biggest weakness in these changes is with css. I feel this
is the best way to maintain consistency on all pages.
I have tested my theme on different types of pages:
- Main (ok)
- Non-Green ("X events received in the past Y minutes" box has 'dark'
colors still)
- Critial Systems (ok)
- Sub-pages (ok)
- Reports:
--- Eventlog (ok)
--- Availability (ok)
--- Snapshot (ok)
--- Config (ok, but page is hard to read [busy])
--- Metrics (ok)
--- Ghost clients (menu not working, not sure what is so different about
this report)
- All Admin Menu functions (ok)
- All Help menus (no header / menu / footer, bug in hobbit?)
The most complicated part of the changes I have done is the menu move. Took
quite a bit of trial-and-error to get that part to work.
Robert
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Galen Johnson <user-87f955643e3d@xymon.invalid>wrote:
There has been some discussion over the years but I don't think anything significant. I've always liked the idea of a "brandable" hobbit. We could then add a new "themes" section to The Shire. :-) It would be nice if you could just point to a theme folder or maybe just symlink www to a theme. If you could write up a tutorial on what you did that could go up on The Shire…that'd be awesome. It'd be really awesome if we could make it brandable to the sub-page level for those of us who monitor multiple customer's sites. =G= *From:* Robert Holden [mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid] *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2008 12:58 PM *To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid *Subject:* [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort. See attached. (sanitized version). Robert
list Ralph Mitchell
I like it too, except for the "Use persuant to company policy" part. Around here, company policy is "use Unicenter" :) Ralph Mitchell
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Krause, Josh <user-998d02d4aede@xymon.invalid>wrote:
Would love to get a hold of what you did, i like it.
Sent from my Windows Mobile(R) phone.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Holden <user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Monday, 11 Aug 2008 1:33 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another
can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything
in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the
look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the
code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the
web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen
refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the
footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see
if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never
really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
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list Geoff Hallford
I like it as well. Being able to brand different pages for our multiple companies that we monitor would be great! 'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.' --Yogi Berra
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Ralph Mitchell <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid>wrote:
I like it too, except for the "Use persuant to company policy" part. Around here, company policy is "use Unicenter" :) Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Krause, Josh <user-998d02d4aede@xymon.invalid>wrote:Would love to get a hold of what you did, i like it. Sent from my Windows Mobile(R) phone. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Holden <user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid> Sent: Monday, 11 Aug 2008 1:33 PM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another can-of-worms (so to speak). I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the web/www files. Major Changes: - Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner' - changed colors (background/font/etc) - Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen refreshed) - Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the footer. - Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over - changed icons - changed footer I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never really cared for that term). I am willing to help in any effort. See attached. (sanitized version). Robert This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.
list Vernon Everett
Hi Robert
You are much like a bikini with this. What you reveal is suggestive, but
what you conceal is vital.
(With apologies to Aaron Levenstein)
You have shown us what can be achieved, but kept hidden the secret of
how to achieve it.
I am sure I speak for many on the list, when I ask, please let us know
the changes you have made to achieve this wonderful look.
Thanks
Vernon
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From: Robert Holden [mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 12:58 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another
can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find
anything in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we
changed the look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one
change to the code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other
changes were to the web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the
screen refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the
footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to
see if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins'
(never really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
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list Robert Holden
lol. That was not my intention. I just wanted to see if people thought it was worth the effort to put together my changes. When I sent the email I had not bundled thing together yet. I just finished creating a tar-ball. You can download it from the link below: http://www.uunc.net/hobbitmon/blue-theme.tar.gz (Blue Theme hobbit) There is a readme file that explains how to install it. Please let me know any suggestions / comments, etc I will be sending a seperate email for a patch to hobbit. This will allow the 'selection' (highlight) of lines when you mouse over them. Enjoy! On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Everett, Vernon <
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user-9da1a1882f49@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hi Robert
You are much like a bikini with this. What you reveal is suggestive, but
what you conceal is vital.
(With apologies to Aaron Levenstein)
You have shown us what can be achieved, but kept hidden the secret of how
to achieve it.
I am sure I speak for many on the list, when I ask, please let us know the
changes you have made to achieve this wonderful look.
Thanks
Vernon
*From:* Robert Holden [mailto:user-25cd5b2bea13@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 August 2008 12:58 AM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* [hobbit] Skinned Hobbit (eww) discussion
With all the discussion about icons, I figured I would open another
can-of-worms (so to speak).
I don't know if this has been discussed before (I could not find anything
in my searches). As part of getting buyoff from managers we changed the
look of hobbit to be a little less "dark". We only make one change to the
code (to make highlighting of the line work), all other changes were to the
web/www files.
Major Changes:
- Moved menu down to make room for 'company banner'
- changed colors (background/font/etc)
- Removed background (we were annoyed by the "blink" everytime the screen
refreshed)
- Added status "line" between company banner & menu, also below the
footer.
- Added highlight function: highlights line that mouse is over
- changed icons
- changed footer
I wanted to see what others thought of our effort. Also, I wanted to see
if others think it would be worth the time to make hobbit 'skins' (never
really cared for that term).
I am willing to help in any effort.
See attached. (sanitized version).
Robert
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