SPLITNCV and graphs
list Gatis A.
Hi,
How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one.
For isntance I am going to track:
value1 : a
value2 : b
value3 : c
valuex : x
(count of "values" will change randomly)
then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value)
test,value1.rrd
test,value2.rrd
test,value3,rrd
test,valuex,rrd
and with following hobbitgraph definition
[test]
FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd
TITLE test
YAXIS TEST
DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE
LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa
I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get
three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each.
Thanks!
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Gatis
list dOCtoR MADneSs
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Gatis A. a écrit :
Hi,
How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one.
For isntance I am going to track:
value1 : a
value2 : b
value3 : c
valuex : x
(count of "values" will change randomly)
then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value)
test,value1.rrd
test,value2.rrd
test,value3,rrd
test,valuex,rrd
and with following hobbitgraph definition
[test]
FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd
TITLE test
YAXIS TEST
DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE
LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa
I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get
three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each.
Thanks!
--
Gatis
Hi, You could define graphs as it : [value1] TITLE Whatever you want YAXIS value1_data_type DEF:VALUE1=test,value1.rrd:lambda:AVERAGE LINE1:VALUE1#000088:value1_data_type repeat the operation for each test,valueX.rrd file
list Gatis A.
Thanks, but that's not exactly what I want, because new "values" are added unpredictably. I want something what looks similar to devmon's if_load graphs, but devmon makes that with custom rrd via scripts instead of NCV. Any idea if that is possible with SPLITNCV? I mean every tracked value in one page has it's own graph.
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On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:56 PM, dOCtoR MADneSs <user-d54077869176@xymon.invalid> wrote:Gatis A. a écrit :Hi, How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one. For isntance I am going to track: value1 : a value2 : b value3 : c valuex : x (count of "values" will change randomly) then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value) test,value1.rrd test,value2.rrd test,value3,rrd test,valuex,rrd and with following hobbitgraph definition [test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each. Thanks! -- GatisHi, You could define graphs as it : [value1] TITLE Whatever you want YAXIS value1_data_type DEF:VALUE1=test,value1.rrd:lambda:AVERAGE LINE1:VALUE1#000088:value1_data_type repeat the operation for each test,valueX.rrd file
list David W Gore
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-----Original Message----- From: dOCtoR MADneSs [mailto:user-d54077869176@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:57 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs Gatis A. a écrit :Hi, How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one. For isntance I am going to track: value1 : a value2 : b value3 : c valuex : x (count of "values" will change randomly) then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value) test,value1.rrd test,value2.rrd test,value3,rrd test,valuex,rrd and with following hobbitgraph definition [test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get > three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each. Thanks! -- GatisHi,You could define graphs as it : [value1] TITLE Whatever you want YAXIS value1_data_type DEF:VALUE1=test,value1.rrd:lambda:AVERAGE LINE1:VALUE1#000088:value1_data_type repeat the operation for each test,valueX.rrd file
I have static entries, so I wouldn't mind seeing someone's working example because I still cannot get this to work. I am using xymon 4.2.3 on a Redhat box, RRD 1.2.30. I can also see that SPLITNCV is some how extracting a line out of my status message in addition to my data message which is a bit odd? Perhaps it extracts the data out of the status message and NOT the data message so perhaps I am just confused? The line it is extracting out of the status message is in the form: '&green 0 blah blah...'. There is another line above that in the same format that it ignores so it is odd? It creates an rrd like this: <test/column name>,74_blah_blah...blah_blah.rrd ~David
list Graham Nayler
I'm doing what you're after using a custom script instead of SPLITNCV, but the two are closely related, and I think this works for what you are doing. In the file hobbitserver.cfg, add your test name to the GRAPHS entry followed by "::1" i.e. GRAPHS="la,disk.....,lines,ifmib::1,test::1" This sets the limit of the number of traces per graph, so set it to "test::2" if e.g. you wanted two traces per graph BTW, I assume there is a typo in your DEF: line below, it should be lambda not lanbda Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gatis A." <user-e47f4dceddb4@xymon.invalid> To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs
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Hi,
How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one.
For isntance I am going to track:
value1 : a
value2 : b
value3 : c
valuex : x
(count of "values" will change randomly)
then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value)
test,value1.rrd
test,value2.rrd
test,value3,rrd
test,valuex,rrd
and with following hobbitgraph definition
[test]
FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd
TITLE test
YAXIS TEST
DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE
LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa
I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get
three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each.
Thanks!
--
Gatis
list Buchan Milne
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On Friday 08 May 2009 11:32:43 Gatis A. wrote:
[test]
FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd
TITLE test
YAXIS TEST
DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE
LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa
I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get
three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each.In the GRAPHS variable in hobbitserver.cfg, instead of adding "test" to the list, add "test::1". Regards, Buchan
list David W Gore
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-----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 14:36 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Cc: Gatis A. Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs On Friday 08 May 2009 11:32:43 Gatis A. wrote:[test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get > three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each.In the GRAPHS variable in hobbitserver.cfg, instead of adding "test" to the list, add "test::1". Regards, Buchan
Yes. I have successfully got that to work but that gets the single graphs ONLY under the 'Trends' column, correct? Does that mean there is no way to get single graphs under your specific test column? ~David
list David W Gore
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-----Original Message----- From: Graham Nayler [mailto:user-4eb117b3c67e@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 14:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs I'm doing what you're after using a custom script instead of SPLITNCV, but the two are closely related, and I think this works for what you are doing. In the file hobbitserver.cfg, add your test name to the GRAPHS entry followed by "::1" i.e. GRAPHS="la,disk.....,lines,ifmib::1,test::1" This sets the limit of the number of traces per graph, so set it to "test::2" if e.g. you wanted two traces per graph BTW, I assume there is a typo in your DEF: line below, it should be lambda not lanbda Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gatis A." <user-e47f4dceddb4@xymon.invalid> To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphsHi, How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one. For isntance I am going to track: value1 : a value2 : b value3 : c valuex : x (count of "values" will change randomly) then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value) test,value1.rrd test,value2.rrd test,value3,rrd test,valuex,rrd and with following hobbitgraph definition [test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each. Thanks! -- Gatis
Graham, Just an FYI, I did find your previous posts very helpful! I certainly was able to use something like what Gatis has above to get a single multi-graph on the specific test column and multiple single graphs under trends. But can you get multiple single graphs under the specific test column? ~David
list Graham Nayler
Hmmm.... yes, I've just tried testing this on a SPLITNCV test, and am seeing what you describe. I do get single lines per graph on the specific test display for custom script handling though. From brief perusal of the sources, I've not yet found why it's different between custom script and standard NCV handling. (Scratching head smiley) Graham
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From: "Gore, David W" <user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid>
To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid>
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs
-----Original Message----- From: Graham Nayler [mailto:user-4eb117b3c67e@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 14:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs I'm doing what you're after using a custom script instead of SPLITNCV, but the two are closely related, and I think this works for what you are doing. In the file hobbitserver.cfg, add your test name to the GRAPHS entry followed by "::1" i.e. GRAPHS="la,disk.....,lines,ifmib::1,test::1" This sets the limit of the number of traces per graph, so set it to "test::2" if e.g. you wanted two traces per graph BTW, I assume there is a typo in your DEF: line below, it should be lambda not lanbda Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gatis A." <user-e47f4dceddb4@xymon.invalid> To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphsHi, How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one. For isntance I am going to track: value1 : a value2 : b value3 : c valuex : x (count of "values" will change randomly) then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value) test,value1.rrd test,value2.rrd test,value3,rrd test,valuex,rrd and with following hobbitgraph definition [test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each. Thanks! -- Gatis
Graham, Just an FYI, I did find your previous posts very helpful! I certainly was able to use something like what Gatis has above to get a single multi-graph on the specific test column and multiple single graphs under trends. But can you get multiple single graphs under the specific test column? ~David
list David W Gore
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-----Original Message----- From: Graham Nayler [mailto:user-4eb117b3c67e@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 15:53 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs Hmmm.... yes, I've just tried testing this on a SPLITNCV test, and am seeing what you describe. I do get single lines per graph on the specific test display for custom script handling though. From brief perusal of the sources, I've not yet found why it's different between custom script and standard NCV handling. (Scratching head smiley) Graham
Well, Graham I tried to see if I could get custom scripts to create a single graph for each status line but no luck. I think we just need a really good tutorial. Since I only have three values to graph, I think I will just break out my script to create 3 xymon columns guaranting a single graph per value. Thanks for all the help regardless! ~David
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gore, David W" <user-3e5761c68b56@xymon.invalid> To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: RE: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs-----Original Message----- From: Graham Nayler [mailto:user-4eb117b3c67e@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 14:27 To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: Re: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphs I'm doing what you're after using a custom script instead of SPLITNCV, but the two are closely related, and I think this works for what you are doing. In the file hobbitserver.cfg, add your test name to the GRAPHS entry followed by "::1" i.e. GRAPHS="la,disk.....,lines,ifmib::1,test::1" This sets the limit of the number of traces per graph, so set it to "test::2" if e.g. you wanted two traces per graph BTW, I assume there is a typo in your DEF: line below, it should be lambda not lanbda Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gatis A." <user-e47f4dceddb4@xymon.invalid> To: <user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: [hobbit] SPLITNCV and graphsHi, How can I get SPLITNCV data to be drawn in seperate graphs not in one. For isntance I am going to track: value1 : a value2 : b value3 : c valuex : x (count of "values" will change randomly) then i will get following rrd files (each tracking one value) test,value1.rrd test,value2.rrd test,value3,rrd test,valuex,rrd and with following hobbitgraph definition [test] FNPATTERN test,value(.*).rrd TITLE test YAXIS TEST DEF:p at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:lanbda:AVERAGE LINE1:p at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:@RRDPARAM@ aa I am getting one graph with three(or more) lines, but I want to get three(or more) seperate graphs with one line each. Thanks! -- GatisGraham, Just an FYI, I did find your previous posts very helpful! I certainly was able to use something like what Gatis has above to get a single multi-graph on the specific test column and multiple single graphs under trends. But can you get multiple single graphs under the specific test column? ~David
list Galen Johnson
I'm trying to add a new graph to a test using NCV (SPLITNCV actually). I read through the graphing tips, I read several emails that provided hints (not my exact problem but nudged me the right way)... long story short. I finally got he graph to show up on my test page...but the rrd file doesn't seem to be populating the fields as expected when I run "rrdtool dump". The only thing I can figure is that the test I'm performing doesn't run every 5 minutes but every 15 minutes. Does that matter? I would have expected in the worst case that only every 3rd row would have a value. What am I missing here? Note, I dropped my test to run every 5 minutes to see if this theory is true. As a side note, it would be extremely helpful if the NCV component didn't look at the entire status but required a comment block (for example) to contain it. That way you could keep your data stream isolated from your message. For example: <!-- NCV data metric1: 123 metric2: 456 etc --> My test kept creating an rrd file for a date string that was part of the status message. That's a bit annoying. =G=
list Adam Goryachev
Hi,
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On 15/04/2015 21:04, Galen Johnson wrote:I'm trying to add a new graph to a test using NCV (SPLITNCV actually). I read through the graphing tips, I read several emails that provided hints (not my exact problem but nudged me the right way)... long story short. I finally got he graph to show up on my test page...but the rrd file doesn't seem to be populating the fields as expected when I run "rrdtool dump". The only thing I can figure is that the test I'm performing doesn't run every 5 minutes but every 15 minutes. Does that matter? I would have expected in the worst case that only every 3rd row would have a value. What am I missing here? Note, I dropped my test to run every 5 minutes to see if this theory is true.
Firstly, remember that the rrd specifies how much data must be valid for it to work. so if 66% of your data is unknown, then it probably isn't going to work. While running it every 5 minutes, you need to also remember that by default xymon will cache the rrd updates from being written to the rrd file by up to 30 minutes, so try waiting a bit longer and looking at older data within the rrd.
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As a side note, it would be extremely helpful if the NCV component didn't look at the entire status but required a comment block (for example) to contain it. That way you could keep your data stream isolated from your message. For example: <!-- NCV data metric1: 123 metric2: 456 etc --> My test kept creating an rrd file for a date string that was part of the status message. That's a bit annoying.
Yes, but then you lose the advantage and simplicity of the ncv format. Make sure your data is being sent in the correct format so you only include the data in the right format. PS, I think I recall you could send the data in a "data" message and then also send the "pretty" stuff in a status message. I'm on holidays right now, so can't double check what I did with this. Regards, Adam
list W.J.M. Nelis
Hello,
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I'm trying to add a new graph to a test using NCV (SPLITNCV actually). I read through the graphing tips, I read several emails that provided hints (not my exact problem but nudged me the right way)... long story short. I finally got he graph to show up on my test page...but the rrd file doesn't seem to be populating the fields as expected when I run "rrdtool dump". The only thing I can figure is that the test I'm performing doesn't run every 5 minutes but every 15 minutes. Does that matter? I would have expected in the worst case that only every 3rd row would have a value. What am I missing here? Note, I dropped my test to run every 5 minutes to see if this theory is true.
Is the DS type DERIVE or COUNTER? In that case two successive samples, which are 5 minutes apart, are needed to create one data point in the graph.
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As a side note, it would be extremely helpful if the NCV component didn't look at the entire status but required a comment block (for example) to contain it. That way you could keep your data stream isolated from your message. For example: <!-- NCV data metric1: 123 metric2: 456 etc -->
Perhaps you can use the devmon format, which encapsulates the data to trend in an HTML comment section. In that case, one would have to specify "test=devmon" in stead of "test=ncv" in variable TEST2RRD. There is no need for an NCV_Something variable, as the DS definition is included with the data to trend.
My test kept creating an rrd file for a date string that was part of the status message. That's a bit annoying.
There are (at least) two ways to circumvent that problem: A) Add "*:NONE" to the NCV_Something variable; B) Replace all occurrences of ":" and "=" outside the NCV part by their HTML equivalent, thus ":" and "=". Regards, Wim Nelis.
list Galen Johnson
Thanks for the replies. Adam's reply regarding the way RRD handles the data makes sense. Once I move the test to run every 5 minutes, it did begin to populate the graph. I let it run for hours with the 15 minute run without success (looks like RRD stops caring after 10 minutes). I'll look more into RRD to see if there is some easy way to have this work since it's a valid need to have tests that run less often but you still want to graph for trending purposes. Likely just a user education issue. I looked at the data message but the man page seemed to indicate that this would only populate a graph only for the trends page. I may revisit it since when I stopped trying to use it, I was still running at 15 minute intervals. per WJM's comment, It's a GUAGE, actually. I may look at the devmon option. I may not have been clear on the request to have the data be restricted somehow for the status. It's too easy to have NCV trigger since '=' and ':' are fairly common separators when one provides output. I love the flexibility of NCV but that little foible is a bit annoying. Also note, even when I defined NONE, it still creates an rrd file (I used SPLITNCV). It would also be difficult to set that up for a string that looks like this: Thu Apr 16 22:33:41 EDT 2015 and creates a rrd file named test,Thu_Apr_16_22.rrd that is going to create a new rrd file every hour. Having to filter the content to change it to use the html entities is (IMHO) a hack that shouldn't be needed. The devmon test apparently already requires this so it really doesn't seem too unreasonable for NCV to handle it the same way. Just throwing it out there...it's graphing along and I'm happy I was able to figure it out.
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 AM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to add a new graph to a test using NCV (SPLITNCV actually). I read through the graphing tips, I read several emails that provided hints (not my exact problem but nudged me the right way)... long story short. I finally got he graph to show up on my test page...but the rrd file doesn't seem to be populating the fields as expected when I run "rrdtool dump". The only thing I can figure is that the test I'm performing doesn't run every 5 minutes but every 15 minutes. Does that matter? I would have expected in the worst case that only every 3rd row would have a value. What am I missing here? Note, I dropped my test to run every 5 minutes to see if this theory is true. Is the DS type DERIVE or COUNTER? In that case two successive samples, which are 5 minutes apart, are needed to create one data point in the graph. As a side note, it would be extremely helpful if the NCV component didn't look at the entire status but required a comment block (for example) to contain it. That way you could keep your data stream isolated from your message. For example: <!-- NCV data metric1: 123 metric2: 456 etc --> Perhaps you can use the devmon format, which encapsulates the data to trend in an HTML comment section. In that case, one would have to specify "test=devmon" in stead of "test=ncv" in variable TEST2RRD. There is no need for an NCV_Something variable, as the DS definition is included with the data to trend. My test kept creating an rrd file for a date string that was part of the status message. That's a bit annoying. There are (at least) two ways to circumvent that problem: A) Add "*:NONE" to the NCV_Something variable; B) Replace all occurrences of ":" and "=" outside the NCV part by their HTML equivalent, thus ":" and "=". Regards, Wim Nelis.
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list Ralph Mitchell
You probably need to create the RRDs manually. I don't recall the details, but you can specify how often samples should arrive and how many can be missed before it records not-a-number (NaN). The default sample interval is 5 minutes, and I think if you miss two that counts as NaN. That fits with your observed loss of graphs. Xymon doesn't care who created the RRD, so you should be able to create one with the rrdtool command line program that would work with 15 minute samples. Ralph Mitchell
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Galen Johnson <user-fc632e705d24@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Adam's reply regarding the way RRD handles the data makes sense. Once I move the test to run every 5 minutes, it did begin to populate the graph. I let it run for hours with the 15 minute run without success (looks like RRD stops caring after 10 minutes). I'll look more into RRD to see if there is some easy way to have this work since it's a valid need to have tests that run less often but you still want to graph for trending purposes. Likely just a user education issue. I looked at the data message but the man page seemed to indicate that this would only populate a graph only for the trends page. I may revisit it since when I stopped trying to use it, I was still running at 15 minute intervals. per WJM's comment, It's a GUAGE, actually. I may look at the devmon option. I may not have been clear on the request to have the data be restricted somehow for the status. It's too easy to have NCV trigger since '=' and ':' are fairly common separators when one provides output. I love the flexibility of NCV but that little foible is a bit annoying. Also note, even when I defined NONE, it still creates an rrd file (I used SPLITNCV). It would also be difficult to set that up for a string that looks like this: Thu Apr 16 22:33:41 EDT 2015 and creates a rrd file named test,Thu_Apr_16_22.rrd that is going to create a new rrd file every hour. Having to filter the content to change it to use the html entities is (IMHO) a hack that shouldn't be needed. The devmon test apparently already requires this so it really doesn't seem too unreasonable for NCV to handle it the same way. Just throwing it out there...it's graphing along and I'm happy I was able to figure it out. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 AM, W.J.M. Nelis <user-6956df205d63@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hello, I'm trying to add a new graph to a test using NCV (SPLITNCV actually). I read through the graphing tips, I read several emails that provided hints (not my exact problem but nudged me the right way)... long story short. I finally got he graph to show up on my test page...but the rrd file doesn't seem to be populating the fields as expected when I run "rrdtool dump". The only thing I can figure is that the test I'm performing doesn't run every 5 minutes but every 15 minutes. Does that matter? I would have expected in the worst case that only every 3rd row would have a value. What am I missing here? Note, I dropped my test to run every 5 minutes to see if this theory is true. Is the DS type DERIVE or COUNTER? In that case two successive samples, which are 5 minutes apart, are needed to create one data point in the graph. As a side note, it would be extremely helpful if the NCV component didn't look at the entire status but required a comment block (for example) to contain it. That way you could keep your data stream isolated from your message. For example: <!-- NCV data metric1: 123 metric2: 456 etc --> Perhaps you can use the devmon format, which encapsulates the data to trend in an HTML comment section. In that case, one would have to specify "test=devmon" in stead of "test=ncv" in variable TEST2RRD. There is no need for an NCV_Something variable, as the DS definition is included with the data to trend. My test kept creating an rrd file for a date string that was part of the status message. That's a bit annoying. There are (at least) two ways to circumvent that problem: A) Add "*:NONE" to the NCV_Something variable; B) Replace all occurrences of ":" and "=" outside the NCV part by their HTML equivalent, thus ":" and "=". Regards, Wim Nelis. *The NLR disclaimer is valid for NLR e-mail messages.* This message is only meant for providing information. Nothing in this e-mail message amounts to a contractual or legal commitment on the part of the sender. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. Sender accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.
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The "heartbeat" determines how long RRD will wait (in seconds) before it mis-trust the next value received. It relates to the "step". It's a bit complicated, but check out the man page for rrdcreate for a good explanation. On 17 April 2015 at 13:25, Ralph Mitchell <user-00a5e44c48c0@xymon.invalid> wrote:
You probably need to create the RRDs manually.
If the RRD file already exists, you can adjust the heartbeat using "rrdtune". There are some RRD parameters you can pre-set in the rrddefinitions.cfg file, to override the defaults for creating new RRD files. Unfortunately, the heartbeat doesn't appear to be one of them, but "step" is, if that helps. If you use the "more advanced" method of feeding data in, using "trends" messages, then you can specify the heartbeat, as well as min and max, when you send the data samples. The very first time Xymon receives a trends message, it will create the RRD file with the given heartbeat/min/max, but these will (I think) be ignored for all subsequent updates. I think the moral of the story is that if you want maximum flexibility, create a trends message (as well as a status message if required). If you want standard RRD files and parameters, use "NCV". If you want to display non-data with colons and equals, use "devmon". J
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Hello, Does any of you know how to monitor CFT using XYMON ? Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10 Place des Vosges, 92072 Paris La Défense Cedex, France • Registered in France: RCS Nanterre B 315 268 664
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Ok...I'm going to show my ignorance here but what is "CFT"? =G=
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My google-fu says "combat fitness test"... Betting that's wrong. Please do share, what is CFT in your world?
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Galen Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:00 PM
To: Gautier Begin
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Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT
Ok...I'm going to show my ignorance here but what is "CFT"?
=G=
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hello,
Does any of you know how to monitor CFT using XYMON ?
Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
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Hello, CFT (Cross File Transfert) is a file transfer solution widespreed used in financial institutions. It currently belongs to AXWAY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_File_Transfer
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From: "Dave Overton" <user-4179705f9dca@xymon.invalid>
To: <xymon at xymon.com>
Date: 04/21/2015 03:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT
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My google-fu says "combat fitness test"... Betting that's wrong.
Please do share, what is CFT in your world?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Galen Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:00 PM
To: Gautier Begin
Cc: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT
Ok...I'm going to show my ignorance here but what is "CFT"?
=G=
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Hello,
Does any of you know how to monitor CFT using XYMON ?
Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Gautier BEGIN
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My immediate thought is to ask how you monitor it now. Can this process be automated? If so, then it probably could be turned into a custom Xymon test. CC
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hello, CFT (Cross File Transfert) is a file transfer solution widespreed used in financial institutions. It currently belongs to AXWAY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_File_Transfer Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10 Place des Vosges, 92072 Paris La Défense Cedex, France • Registered in France: RCS Nanterre B 315 268 664 From: "Dave Overton" <user-4179705f9dca@xymon.invalid> To: <xymon at xymon.com> Date: 04/21/2015 03:45 AM Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT Sent by: "Xymon" <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> My google-fu says "combat fitness test"... Betting that's wrong. Please do share, what is CFT in your world? From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:00 PM To: Gautier Begin Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT Ok...I'm going to show my ignorance here but what is "CFT"? =G= On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote: Hello, Does any of you know how to monitor CFT using XYMON ? Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10 Place des Vosges, 92072 Paris La Défense Cedex, France • Registered in France: RCS Nanterre B 315 268 664
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I agree with the custom Xymon script. I set-up monitoring for IBM's MQ transfer software (sounds like CFT is Europe's version) at a security exchange and it was all done via scripts running MQ commands. ....Bruce
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Colin Coe
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:18 AM
To: Gautier Begin
Cc: xymon at xymon.com; Xymon
Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT
My immediate thought is to ask how you monitor it now. Can this
process be automated? If so, then it probably could be turned into a
custom Xymon test.
CC
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hello, CFT (Cross File Transfert) is a file transfer solution widespreed used in financial institutions. It currently belongs to AXWAY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_File_Transfer Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10 Place des Vosges, 92072 Paris La Défense Cedex, France • Registered in France: RCS Nanterre B 315 268 664 From: "Dave Overton" <user-4179705f9dca@xymon.invalid> To: <xymon at xymon.com> Date: 04/21/2015 03:45 AM Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT Sent by: "Xymon" <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> My google-fu says "combat fitness test"... Betting that's wrong. Please do share, what is CFT in your world? From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 6:00 PM To: Gautier Begin Cc: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT Ok...I'm going to show my ignorance here but what is "CFT"? =G= On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote: Hello, Does any of you know how to monitor CFT using XYMON ? Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10 Place des Vosges, 92072 Paris La Défense Cedex, France • Registered in France: RCS Nanterre B 315 268 664
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Hello, yes, IBM MQ is a different product, working differently but from the same family. CFT seems very specific to France. If that can help someone in the futur, here what I found: I found here a nagios exemple: http://wiki.tuxunix.com/index.php/Doc_CFT (in French) + usage of these commands: cftping -v cft (motor state) cftlog (log access) cftutil listcat state=KH (state of flows in the catalog)
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From: "White, Bruce" <user-58f975e8bf9d@xymon.invalid>
To: "'Colin Coe'" <user-5b250cd7a540@xymon.invalid>, Gautier Begin/LUX/CSC at CSC
Cc: "xymon at xymon.com" <xymon at xymon.com>, Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com>
Date: 04/21/2015 09:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Xymon] CFT
I agree with the custom Xymon script. I set-up monitoring for IBM's MQ transfer software (sounds like CFT is Europe's version) at a security exchange and it was all done via scripts running MQ commands.
....Bruce
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Colin Coe
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:18 AM
To: Gautier Begin
Cc: xymon at xymon.com; Xymon
Subject: Re: [Xymon] CFT
My immediate thought is to ask how you monitor it now. Can this
process be automated? If so, then it probably could be turned into a
custom Xymon test.
CC
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gautier Begin <user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid> wrote:Hello, CFT (Cross File Transfert) is a file transfer solution widespreed used in financial institutions. It currently belongs to AXWAY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_File_Transfer Cordialement, Regards,Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gautier BEGIN Global Service Support Solutions - Tools Support CACEIS and APERAM accounts CSC Computer Sciences Luxembourg S.A. 12D Impasse Drosbach L-1882 Luxembourg Global Outsourcing Service | p:+352 24 834 276 | m:+352 621 229 172 | user-083785ae1711@xymon.invalid | www.csc.com CSC • This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose • CSC Computer Sciences SAS • Registered Office: Immeuble Le Balzac, 10
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