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list Etienne Grignon · Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:58:37 +0200 ·
Hello all,

I have a question for you about the idea to separate the cpu column of
the uptime alert.

The idea would be to create a new column called  uptime which will be
yellow or red if it reboots.

The advantage is for history. When you actually look to the history to
find quickly when the server has rebooted in the past, it is not easy
to know if it was a reboot or a cpu alert, you have to click on each
different alert status to check the content. But, with this new
column, even if the width of each BB page is larger than before, it
would be so easy to list all reboots of a host.

I implemented this in BBWin and it is very appreciated by my
colleagues, so that's why I post the message to get the opinion of
you.

I think putting uptime alert in the cpu column was inherited from big
brother so may be it could be changed depending the agreement of
Henrik and hobbit users.

Henrik, what do you think about that ?

Regards,


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list Henrik Størner · Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:05:13 +0200 ·
quoted from Etienne Grignon
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Etienne Grignon wrote:
I think putting uptime alert in the cpu column was inherited from big
brother so may be it could be changed depending the agreement of
Henrik and hobbit users.

Henrik, what do you think about that ?
I think it's a good idea. The "cpu" column really is a bit overloaded;
it tracks cpu utilisation, it tracks reboots, and with the hobbit
client it also warns if the system clock goes astray.

However, the display can get a bit crowded with all of the things we
monitor now. So I'm thinking that maybe it would be nice to also
implement a kind of status column which is only visible when it isn't
green - or perhaps until it's been green for some time. The "reboot"
status would be a prime candidate for such a status - you normally dont
care about it, but when it happens you might want to be made aware of
it.

Another way of getting the display less crowded would be to have
"collapsible" columns, i.e. several statuses would be collapsed into a 
single red/green/yellow "dot" on the webpage.

Just some ideas.


Regards,
Henrik
list Asif Iqbal · Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:04:03 -0400 ·
quoted from Henrik Størner
On 8/31/06, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Etienne Grignon wrote:
I think putting uptime alert in the cpu column was inherited from big
brother so may be it could be changed depending the agreement of
Henrik and hobbit users.

Henrik, what do you think about that ?
I think it's a good idea. The "cpu" column really is a bit overloaded;
it tracks cpu utilisation, it tracks reboots, and with the hobbit
client it also warns if the system clock goes astray.

However, the display can get a bit crowded with all of the things we
monitor now. So I'm thinking that maybe it would be nice to also
implement a kind of status column which is only visible when it isn't
green - or perhaps until it's been green for some time. The "reboot"
status would be a prime candidate for such a status - you normally dont
care about it, but when it happens you might want to be made aware of
it.

Excellent idea. Dynamic column!! Wow. It would help a lot with my crowded
columns .  Ofcourse a red alert will make me aware of it if I choose it to
show up only at red. I would like to see the same feature for `msgs' column.
Also may be a button or something to show static view with all columns and
(default) dynamic view.
quoted from Henrik Størner

Another way of getting the display less crowded would be to have
"collapsible" columns, i.e. several statuses would be collapsed into a
single red/green/yellow "dot" on the webpage.

It is a pretty good idea too, unless you have a static/dynamic button as I
mentioned above.

I think dynamic view fits better with hobbit :-)


Just some ideas.

Regards,
Henrik

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list Rob MacGregor · Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:37:28 +0100 ·
quoted from Asif Iqbal
On 9/2/06, Asif Iqbal <user-6f4b51ac2a40@xymon.invalid> wrote:
It is a pretty good idea too, unless you have a static/dynamic button as I
mentioned above.

I think dynamic view fits better with hobbit :-)
I'd go with a dynamic view, where you can hide (chosen) columns when
they're green.  I've got many relatively low importance checks that
I'd happily not have showing green on the screen by default - it's
only the ones that are customer critical that it's nice (for the PHB)
to have showing all the time.

Personally, my primary view is the "All non-green view".  That tells
me everything that I really care about.

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list Ralph Mitchell · Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:13:08 -0500 ·
quoted from Rob MacGregor
On 9/2/06, Rob MacGregor <user-07c9d92ae079@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Personally, my primary view is the "All non-green view".  That tells
me everything that I really care about.
Same here.  Our monitoring  guys only ever watch the "All non-green
view".   Each group recognises their own hostnames and they've got so
much going on they don't like to  spend the time clicking through the
other views.

That's not to say that a dynamic page isn't a good idea, just that it
probably won't make much difference here...

Ralph Mitchell