Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never updated) 🔗 link

Henrik Størner wrote:

OK, I'm not the type who gets offended easily, but this did make my blood pressure go up a bit:

In <user-8a95fe39c5e0@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang" <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:

Jon Boede wrote:
Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the all in one =
patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on SourceForge??

done.

1. 4.2.1 tar ball is here:

[snip]

2. 4.2.1 Readme file.

[snip]


TJ, I hope You did this with the best of intentions. But I'm really offended that You did it without at least telling me about it first. My personal e-mail address is well known, and dropping me a mail first would have been the polite thing to do. If You'd done that,
such a release could have been done quickly with my "official"
blessing.

Instead, You've made me angry and created a mess - there's now one
more place where some random version of Hobbit can be found. And on
top of it all You've given it the look of an official patch by putting a "4.2.1" label on it.


All I'm asking for is that all of you *think* about what you do.
If you're frustrated about the next release not arriving, do
something to move it forward - i.e. grab the current source-trunk
from the Subversion archive, use it and send bug reports. Or
patches. Or write docs.


Henrik (in a rather frustrated mood)

 
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-----Original Message-----
From: T.J. Yang [mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 06 November 2008 22:17
To: hobbit system monitoring
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never
updated)

To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
From: user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:56:21 +0000
CC: user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never
updated)

OK, I'm not the type who gets offended easily, but this did
make my 
blood pressure go up a bit:

In <user-8a95fe39c5e0@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang"

<user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:

Jon Boede wrote:

Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the
all in one =
patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on

SourceForge??

done.

1. 4.2.1 tar ball is here:

[snip]

2. 4.2.1 Readme file.

[snip]


TJ, I hope You did this with the best of intentions. But I'm
really 
offended that You did it without at least telling me about it
first. 

	 
	 
	My intention was to provide a solution to silence the complain.
	Stand corrected. I didn't ask for your blessing/permisson first.

	

My personal e-mail address is well known, and dropping me a
mail 
first would have been the polite thing to do. If You'd done
that,
such a release could have been done quickly with my "official"
blessing.

	
	Again my apology.
	

Instead, You've made me angry and created a mess - there's now
one
more place where some random version of Hobbit can be found.

And on

top of it all You've given it the look of an official patch by

putting a "4.2.1" label on it.

	
	Sorry that I make you feel angry.

All I'm asking for is that all of you *think* about what you
do.
If you're frustrated about the next release not arriving, do
something to move it forward - i.e. grab the current
source-trunk
from the Subversion archive, use it and send bug reports. Or
patches. Or write docs.

	
	I am not frustrated of "next realease not coming". I was hoping
	to answer the question of why not putting all-in-one patche into
a source tree
	to relieve the patching headaches.
	 
	again My apology to create this tension due to my bad judgement.
	 
	effort should really spend on docs,patche and bug reports.
	 
	tj yang
	

Henrik (in a rather frustrated mood)

From: Ward, Martin Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:35 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: RE: [hobbit] Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never updated)


Would it not be sensible to remove it? I don't know if that can be done or not (don't see why not though), that way we don't have to worry about an odd version floating around. Maybe put a README in its place stating that the patch was released incorrectly, or some such?

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-----Original Message-----
From: T.J. Yang [mailto:user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid] Sent: 06 November 2008 22:17
To: hobbit system monitoring
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never updated)

To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
From: user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:56:21 +0000
CC: user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] Vigilante releases (was: RRDs created, never updated)

OK, I'm not the type who gets offended easily, but this did make my   > blood pressure go up a bit:
In <user-8a95fe39c5e0@xymon.invalid> "T.J. Yang" <user-8e841282cda5@xymon.invalid> writes:

Jon Boede wrote:

Out of random curiosity... why hasn't anybody applied the all in one =
patch and put a hobbit 4.2.1 or something up on SourceForge??

done.

1. 4.2.1 tar ball is here:

[snip]

2. 4.2.1 Readme file.

[snip]

TJ, I hope You did this with the best of intentions. But I'm really   > offended that You did it without at least telling me about it first.         My intention was to provide a solution to silence the complain.

  Stand corrected. I didn't ask for your blessing/permisson first. 

My personal e-mail address is well known, and dropping me a mail   > first would have been the polite thing to do. If You'd done that,
such a release could have been done quickly with my "official"
blessing.

  Again my apology.

Instead, You've made me angry and created a mess - there's now one
more place where some random version of Hobbit can be found. And on
top of it all You've given it the look of an official patch by   > putting a "4.2.1" label on it.

  Sorry that I make you feel angry.

All I'm asking for is that all of you *think* about what you do.

If you're frustrated about the next release not arriving, do
something to move it forward - i.e. grab the current source-trunk
from the Subversion archive, use it and send bug reports. Or
patches. Or write docs.

  I am not frustrated of "next realease not coming". I was hoping
  to answer the question of why not putting all-in-one patche into a source tree
  to relieve the patching headaches.
     again My apology to create this tension due to my bad judgement.
     effort should really spend on docs,patche and bug reports.
     tj yang

Henrik (in a rather frustrated mood)

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Ward, Martin wrote:

Would it not be sensible to remove it? I don't know if that can be done or not (don't see why not though), that way we don't have to worry about an odd version floating around. Maybe put a README in its place stating that the patch was released incorrectly, or some such?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:18 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Vigilante releases

Ward, Martin wrote:

Would it not be sensible to remove it? I don't know if that can be done or not (don't see why not though), that way we don't have to worry about an odd version floating around. Maybe put a README in its place stating that the patch was released incorrectly, or some such?
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TJ has been a good, solid contributor to the project for a long time.  I
have every expectation that the work he did in creating his package, he
did in good faith, with the best of intentions.

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On Friday 07 November 2008 14:18:04 Rich Smrcina wrote:

Ward, Martin wrote:

Would it not be sensible to remove it? I don't know if that can be done
or not (don't see why not though), that way we don't have to worry about
an odd version floating around. Maybe put a README in its place stating
that the patch was released incorrectly, or some such?

|\/|

TJ has been a good, solid contributor to the project for a long time.  I
have every expectation that the work he did in creating his package, he did
in good faith, with the best of intentions.