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list Malcolm Hunter · Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:13 +0100 ·
Hi,

Does anyone know why the information displayed on Xymon is so different depending on whether you set BBWin to use centralised or local configuration? For example, services in central mode list all available services, whereas in local mode it only shows the ones you want to monitor - centralised mode also doesn't allow spaces in the service name.

In centralised mode, it seems to be hit or miss whether it reports on events in the system log (some clients work, some don't), whereas in local mode it works fine.

I think we may be sticking with local mode and finding a way to deploy configuration files for now.


Thanks,

Malcolm


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list Peter Welter · Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:09:06 +0100 ·
2009/11/24 Malcolm Hunter <user-b3e590ffeb6d@xymon.invalid>:
quoted from Malcolm Hunter
Hi,

Does anyone know why the information displayed on Xymon is so different depending on whether you set BBWin to use centralised or local configuration?
In central mode, bbwin behaves like a normal, regular Xymon client.
Which means: show all information available and have it checked
(validated) on the server.
For example, services in central mode list all available services, whereas in local mode it only shows the ones you want to monitor - centralised mode also doesn't allow spaces in the service name.
See above. In central mode, there is only one place where you
configure your hosts.
In centralised mode, it seems to be hit or miss whether it reports on events in the system log (some clients work, some don't), whereas in local mode it works fine.
Also, here you have to modify on the central server your configfiles.
You must tell the clients to monitor the local logfiles:

Central mode? Configure clients-local.cfg as follows:

[win32]
eventlog:security
ignore some_example_string
eventlog:application
ignore information
eventlog:system
ignore information

This might help.

Peter
quoted from Malcolm Hunter
I think we may be sticking with local mode and finding a way to deploy configuration files for now.


Thanks,

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list Malcolm Hunter · Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:43:05 +0100 ·
Hi Peter,
quoted from Peter Welter
Does anyone know why the information displayed on Xymon is so different
depending on whether you set BBWin to use centralised or local
configuration?
In central mode, bbwin behaves like a normal, regular Xymon client.
Which means: show all information available and have it checked
(validated) on the server.
Thanks for the reply. I sort of figured that might be the case.
quoted from Peter Welter
In centralised mode, it seems to be hit or miss whether it reports on
events in the system log (some clients work, some don't), whereas in local
mode it works fine.
Also, here you have to modify on the central server your configfiles.
You must tell the clients to monitor the local logfiles:

Central mode? Configure clients-local.cfg as follows:

[win32]
eventlog:security
ignore some_example_string
eventlog:application
ignore information
eventlog:system
ignore information
I'd created a client-local.cfg file but a few servers didn't seem to want to report on the System event log.

I've come up with a solution - run a script from the "externals" section in BBWin.cfg and download the BBWin.cfg from the Xymon server using BBWinCmd.exe. This allows the client to use the local configuration mode but be centrally configured.

I had to be a bit clever with the scripting - i.e. validate the downloaded file before overwriting the existing one, but this method works nicely. I've even added the option to download .vbs scripts and othe .cfg files. When I've finished refining it, I'll post my work to Xymonton - in case anyone else is interested.

Regards,
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list Raymond Storer · Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:15:02 -0500 ·
We use Microsoft's SMS for deploying our bbwin.cfg files. In this way, all our bbwin.cfg files are centrally located and managed.

Ray

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list Malcolm Hunter · Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:50:21 +0100 ·
quoted from Raymond Storer
We use Microsoft's SMS for deploying our bbwin.cfg files. In this way, all
our bbwin.cfg files are centrally located and managed.
How much does that cost?
quoted from Malcolm Hunter

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list Raymond Storer · Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:21:29 -0500 ·
Microsoft's Licensing page for System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM), the new SMS, is http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/configurationmanager/en/us/pricing-licensing.aspx. Your pricing may differ if you have an Enterprise Agreement and if you choose to place Software Assurance on the purchase or not. We have a single server with sql server bundled. We use the middle tier management license. It services about 100 servers and 900 desktops.

Ray
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: RE: [hobbit] BBWin Central vs Local Configuration
We use Microsoft's SMS for deploying our bbwin.cfg files. In this way, all
our bbwin.cfg files are centrally located and managed.
How much does that cost?

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list Malcolm Hunter · Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:47:41 +0100 ·
quoted from Raymond Storer
Microsoft's Licensing page for System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM),
the new SMS, is
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/configurationmanager/en/us/pricing-licensing.aspx. Your pricing may differ if you have an
Enterprise Agreement and if you choose to place Software Assurance on the
purchase or not. We have a single server with sql server bundled. We use the
middle tier management license. It services about 100 servers and 900 desktops.
So a bit expensive unless you have other uses for SMS other than distributing BBWin config files. :)
quoted from Raymond Storer

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