Goodbye and thanks for all the fish
list Phil Crooker
Our company has decided to switch to a managed monitoring system, so goodbye, XYmon. I'm grateful to Henrik, Jeremy and everyone for all the work you've put in to XYmon over the years. I can't say I'll miss the regular expressions in analysis.cfg, but it certainly has saved my bacon many times. All the best, Phil
list Stephen Carville Xymon List
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On 4/28/19 5:00 PM, Phil Crooker wrote:
Our company has decided to switch to a managed monitoring system, so goodbye, XYmon. I'm grateful to Henrik, Jeremy and everyone for all the work you've put in to XYmon over the years. I can't say I'll miss the regular expressions in analysis.cfg, but it certainly has saved my bacon many times.
Don't lose heart. I've lost count of the times we get some super-dooper, whiz-bang, gonna solve all our problems system from the Gartner Magic Quadrant. We are still using XYMon and Big Brother. -- Stephen
list Schminke_Erik_D
+1 We had been using "Big Brother" for years. We had also switched to a new fangled, whiz-bang monitoring solution and it just-- wasn't-- working out. We finally decided to pull the plug and switch back to Xymon because it just friggin' works. Good luck, I guess... we'll be here when you need us again. :) Erik D. Schminke | Associate Systems Programmer Hormel Foods Corporation | One Hormel Place | Austin, MN XXXXX Phone: (XXX) XXX-XXXX user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid | www.hormelfoods.com
list John Thurston
I've seen similar scenarios over the last twenty years. But because our Big Brother (now Xymon) was so simple to run, we suggested it just continue to run in parallel while the new solution was completed, and our workflow and business processes were updated.
You can guess the rest.
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Do things because you should, not just because you can.
John Thurston XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid
Department of Administration
State of Alaska
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On 4/30/2019 4:24 AM, user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid wrote:We had also switched to a new fangled, whiz-bang monitoring solution and it just-- wasn't-- working out. We finally decided to pull the plug and switch back to Xymon because it just friggin' works.
list Ralph Mitchell
At EDS I was told to switch from Big Brother/Hobbit to CA Unicenter. The component of Unicenter that watches web pages was called CA-Wiley, and I just couldn't make it work the same as my bash scripts. Someone from the Integration team offered to help, so I sent the requirement doc to them. The Wiley XML script they came back with had a fatal flaw - a hard-wired date. I told them, "In six months that date becomes invalid, the test will fail and nobody will know why. It needs to be dynamically calculated." Nope, never got an answer on that one. Also, the Wiley display app would crash if people "clicked the buttons too fast" (known fault, admitted by CA) *and* it would then forget which tests were disabled... My current employer is beginning to push SolarWinds. That requires a Java app to be installed on the clients, instead of a couple of scripts. Main reason for the change seems to be "it looks prettier, and management likes pretty things." We'll see how that works out. Ralph Mitchell On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 11:39 AM John Thurston <user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid>
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I've seen similar scenarios over the last twenty years. But because our Big Brother (now Xymon) was so simple to run, we suggested it just continue to run in parallel while the new solution was completed, and our workflow and business processes were updated. You can guess the rest. -- Do things because you should, not just because you can. John Thurston XXX-XXX-XXXX user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid Department of Administration State of Alaska On 4/30/2019 4:24 AM, user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid wrote:We had also switched to a new fangled, whiz-bang monitoring solution and it just-- wasn't-- working out. We finally decided to pull the plug and switch back to Xymon because it just friggin' works.
list Adrian Ball
Indeed. A couple of years ago, I started a contract at a place which had no monitoring yet, because 'We have a monitoring project to spec and install the "latest and greatest whizz-bang tool" - it will be up and running "soon"'. I was designing and building loads of new systems from scratch (to provide paid-for, managed application services for this company's customers), and setting up the config management, so could embed the monitoring client for whatever tool they wanted, as part of the automated build process. Fine, I said - I'll just set up Xymon *for now*, so we have *something* (I played it down, not wanting to put any noses out of joint) whilst awaiting the outcome of the project. I referred to it as the "Interim monitoring solution". I finished my contract a year later. Another year after that, Xymon is still running and providing all the monitoring and alerting (and dug them out of many holes over the course of that time). The customers are told that there is a whizz-bang all-singing and dancing integrated monitoring and alerting system in place. The other project is still in the pilot stage...
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On 30/04/2019 16:38, John Thurston wrote:I've seen similar scenarios over the last twenty years. But because our Big Brother (now Xymon) was so simple to run, we suggested it just continue to run in parallel while the new solution was completed, and our workflow and business processes were updated. You can guess the rest. -- Do things because you should, not just because you can. John Thurston XXX-XXX-XXXX user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid Department of Administration State of Alaska On 4/30/2019 4:24 AM, user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid wrote:We had also switched to a new fangled, whiz-bang monitoring solution and it just-- wasn't-- working out. We finally decided to pull the plug and switch back to Xymon because it just friggin' works.
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list Phil Crooker
Heh, maybe I should say ‘au revoir’ instead… ;-)
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From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Ball
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2019 1:43 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Goodbye and thanks for all the fish
Indeed. A couple of years ago, I started a contract at a place which had no monitoring yet, because ‘We have a monitoring project to spec and install the “latest and greatest whizz-bang tool” – it will be up and running "soon"’. I was designing and building loads of new systems from scratch (to provide paid-for, managed application services for this company's customers), and setting up the config management, so could embed the monitoring client for whatever tool they wanted, as part of the automated build process.
Fine, I said – I'll just set up Xymon for now, so we have something (I played it down, not wanting to put any noses out of joint) whilst awaiting the outcome of the project. I referred to it as the “Interim monitoring solution”.
I finished my contract a year later. Another year after that, Xymon is still running and providing all the monitoring and alerting (and dug them out of many holes over the course of that time). The customers are told that there is a whizz-bang all-singing and dancing integrated monitoring and alerting system in place.
The other project is still in the pilot stage…
On 30/04/2019 16:38, John Thurston wrote:
I've seen similar scenarios over the last twenty years. But because our Big Brother (now Xymon) was so simple to run, we suggested it just continue to run in parallel while the new solution was completed, and our workflow and business processes were updated.
You can guess the rest.
— Do things because you should, not just because you can.
John Thurston XXX-XXX-XXXX user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-ce4d79d99bab@xymon.invalid> Department of Administration State of Alaska
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On 4/30/2019 4:24 AM, user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid<mailto:user-15513f33c451@xymon.invalid> wrote:
We had also switched to a new fangled, whiz-bang monitoring solution and it just-- wasn't-- working out. We finally decided to pull the plug and switch back to Xymon because it just friggin' works.