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Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

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list Japheth Cleaver · Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:25:50 -0700 ·
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well, consider that the last one was quite a while ago.

I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/ already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...


Regards,
-jc
list Tom Georgoulias · Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:48:32 -0400 ·
quoted from Japheth Cleaver
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but
it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well,
consider that the last one was quite a while ago.

I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/
already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what
the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon development in general.  Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me.  I can't shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the very active user community rallying around it.  Xymon is a solid, mature product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm sure to other users as well.  I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear vision on where the project is going.

Tom
list TJ Yang · Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:43:34 -0500 ·
I think the main (and only) xymon developer got wear out over the
years, last time I heard from the list from people seeing him far away
in same office of his existence status. Nothing bad happened to him,
"he need a break" is a reasonable statement.

So lets let him take a break. Otherwise someone need to read through
the source code tree and generate function architecture diagram in his
head and understand/test the patches from community with confidence it
won't make it worse. In fact should be more than one person need to
stand up and commit to become hobbit developers. So we won't have
Single point of failure in our Xymon development model.

Currently, there is no problem actually, no patches committed, no
roadmaps and that is all.  it still work and far better than other
free and commercial system monitoring solution.

I see many users stand up to support other new comers. this will take
off a lots of burden used provided by Henrik.

So the real question should be, "how many experienced users willing to
become developers ?"
We all know this a job that without pay, using your personal free time ... etc.


tj

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tom Georgoulias
quoted from Tom Georgoulias
<user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but
it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well,
consider that the last one was quite a while ago.

I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/
already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what
the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon
development in general.  Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me.  I can't
shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the
very active user community rallying around it.  Xymon is a solid, mature
product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some
sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm
sure to other users as well.  I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear
vision on where the project is going.

Tom

-- 

T.J. Yang
list Neil Franken · Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:28:12 +0200 ·
Hi Guys

Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate. Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some kick arse documentation produced.

Regards
Neil


Regards
quoted from TJ Yang

-----Original Message-----
From: TJ Yang [mailto:user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 24 June 2010 10:44 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

I think the main (and only) xymon developer got wear out over the
years, last time I heard from the list from people seeing him far away
in same office of his existence status. Nothing bad happened to him,
"he need a break" is a reasonable statement.

So lets let him take a break. Otherwise someone need to read through
the source code tree and generate function architecture diagram in his
head and understand/test the patches from community with confidence it
won't make it worse. In fact should be more than one person need to
stand up and commit to become hobbit developers. So we won't have
Single point of failure in our Xymon development model.

Currently, there is no problem actually, no patches committed, no
roadmaps and that is all.  it still work and far better than other
free and commercial system monitoring solution.

I see many users stand up to support other new comers. this will take
off a lots of burden used provided by Henrik.

So the real question should be, "how many experienced users willing to
become developers ?"
We all know this a job that without pay, using your personal free time ... etc.


tj

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tom Georgoulias
<user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but
it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well,
consider that the last one was quite a while ago.

I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/
already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what
the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon
development in general.  Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me.  I can't
shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the
very active user community rallying around it.  Xymon is a solid, mature
product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some
sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm
sure to other users as well.  I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear
vision on where the project is going.

Tom

-- 
T.J. Yang
list Buchan Milne · Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:28:27 +0100 ·
quoted from Neil Franken
On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys

Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate.
 Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web
 interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the
 development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some
 kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).

Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.

Regards,
Buchan
list Neil Franken · Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:46:14 +0200 ·
Agreed. I have a sf id will join the list as well.
quoted from Buchan Milne


-----Original Message-----
From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 28 June 2010 10:28 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Cc: Neil Franken
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys

Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the
plate.
 Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web
 interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the
 development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get
some
 kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of
people 
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project,
Henrik 
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some
features 
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).

Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list,
and 
discuss a way forward there.

Regards,
Buchan
list TJ Yang · Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:32:29 -0500 ·
FYI, the URL to subscribe to developer list

tj

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Neil Franken
quoted from Neil Franken
<user-1689acfc5a3b@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Agreed. I have a sf id will join the list as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Buchan Milne [mailto:user-9b139aff4dec@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 28 June 2010 10:28 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Cc: Neil Franken
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys

Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the
plate.
 Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web
 interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the
 development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get
some
 kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of
people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project,
Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some
features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).

Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list,
and
discuss a way forward there.

Regards,
Buchan

-- 

T.J. Yang
list Tom Georgoulias · Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:00:23 -0400 ·
quoted from Buchan Milne
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.
quoted from TJ Yang
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and
discuss a way forward there.
I joined that list so that I can follow the discussion, but I do think this topic is of interest to members of this list, too.

Tom
list Neil Franken · Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:37:29 +0200 ·
Hi All

I agree with you 100% Tom. We need to find out from Henrik What his position regarding Xymon is at the moment. Xymon has saved me
countless
of hours when I had to trouble shoot issues and made me extremely
pro-active in identifying issues before they become operational messes.

I have tried Nagios, OpenNMS and Zabbix but they are a little heavy and
run into the analysis paralysis territory for me. The 'spirit' of xymon for me is a
light weight
easy to install and easy to use system. However I think Xymon could use
with a little drive and development and having Henrik try to respond to all the
request, bugs and so on is not feasible for one person. 
Personally I would like to see Xymon being featured when i do searches
on open source Monitoring tools. For example SF project of the month is the OpenNMS
system. I want Xymon there.

I also think as a collective that use the Xymon system we should look at
making forking BBWin into XyWin?

Anyway these are my thoughts. I have joined the developers list and will
contribute to that from now on.

Regards
Neil
quoted from Tom Georgoulias


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Georgoulias [mailto:user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid] Sent: 29 June 2010 06:00 PM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number
of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project,
Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some
features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take

a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list,
and
discuss a way forward there.
I joined that list so that I can follow the discussion, but I do think this topic is of interest to members of this list, too.

Tom
list Henrik Størner · Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:44:18 +0000 (UTC) ·
quoted from Tom Georgoulias
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.


Regards,
Henrik
list TJ Yang · Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:22:39 -0500 ·
quoted from Henrik Størner
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Regards,
Henrik

-- 
T.J. Yang
list Jerald Sheets · Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:57:35 -0400 ·
I'm willing to help out in any way as well.  Just let me know what I can do
to help out.


---
Jerald M. Sheets jr.
quoted from TJ Yang


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:22 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <
user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of
people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project,
Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some
features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Regards,
Henrik

--
T.J. Yang

list Neil Franken · Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:41:13 +0200 ·
Hi All

 
Count me in.  

 
Regards

Neil
quoted from Jerald Sheets

 
From: Jerald Sheets [mailto:user-96a6f34c5806@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 01 July 2010 05:58 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

 
I'm willing to help out in any way as well.  Just let me know what I can do to help out.

 
---
Jerald M. Sheets jr.


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:22 PM, TJ Yang <user-61afc885aa73@xymon.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj

Regards,
Henrik

--
T.J. Yang
list Martin Flemming · Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:53:44 +0200 (CEST) ·
quoted from Neil Franken
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.
My vote, you've got :-)
Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Didn't really know, how such project to get best work,
but why not ...

martin
quoted from TJ Yang


On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, TJ Yang wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Regards,
Henrik

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list Christoph Berg · Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:05:51 +0200 ·
Re: TJ Yang 2010-07-01 <user-e25c66406661@xymon.invalid>
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
+1 from me.

I would like to have svn access, my sourceforge login is df7cb.

Christoph
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list Padraig Lennon · Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:03:14 +0200 ·
I would like to put myself forward for updating some of the documentation and contributing a number of add-on modules..

I think its best if there is at least a team of 4-5 people who could drive the project and allow henrik to concentrate on the code if he has time..

-P 


Padraig Lennon 
Senior Systems Integration Engineer

Pioneer Investments Management Ltd
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Flemming [mailto:user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 01 July 2010 06:54
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.
My vote, you've got :-)
Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Didn't really know, how such project to get best work,
but why not ...

martin


On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, TJ Yang wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Regards,
Henrik

-- 
T.J. Yang

Gruss

        Martin Flemming


Martin Flemming
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Notkestr. 85       phone  : XXX - XXXX - XXXX
22603 Hamburg      mail   : user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid

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list Rich Smrcina · Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:04:57 -0500 ·
quoted from Henrik Størner
On 06/30/2010 04:44 PM, Henrik Størner wrote:
Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.
It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.


Regards,
Henrik

   
It's great to see Henrik responding to messages (greetings!).  I was certainly hoping that he would pick up development at some point, but as time went on it seemed more and more unlikely.  I had thought of broaching this subject myself some time ago, but I got a new job and my bandwidth is now pretty much all sucked up there.

For those in the group that may not know... I wrote the back-end code for the System z operating systems (z/OS, z/VM and z/VSE).  So, if you see that indicated in the source, it's my fault...  :)  I still owe TJ wiki entries...  :(

There's not much I plan to add to the clients at this point (which I also wrote), so as long as the client backend protocol doesn't change "we're all good", as they say.

I'm glad to see this renewed activity.

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list TJ Yang · Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:15:30 -0500 ·
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Lennon, Padraig
quoted from Padraig Lennon
<user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I would like to put myself forward for updating some of the documentation and contributing a number of add-on modules..

I think its best if there is at least a team of 4-5 people who could drive the project and allow henrik to concentrate on the code if he has time..
I second this idea. Project admin who drive this project , should have
at least 3 (not good but acceptable) and ideal at 5(good) persons.

This way the important project arguments can be voted on and  no
single point of failure.

tj
quoted from Padraig Lennon
-P


Padraig Lennon
Senior Systems Integration Engineer

Pioneer Investments Management Ltd
5th Floor |Georges Quay Plaza | Georges Quay | Dublin 2 | Rep. of Ireland
Tel.  +353 (0)1 480.2081

user-7738cfcc6ae0@xymon.invalid | www.pioneerinvestments.com

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Flemming [mailto:user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid]
Sent: 01 July 2010 06:54
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?

I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.
My vote, you've got :-)
Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Didn't really know, how such project to get best work,
but why not ...

martin


On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, TJ Yang wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Henrik Størner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:
In <user-015db105c324@xymon.invalid> Tom Georgoulias <user-6a0b8b0f0ae1@xymon.invalid> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people
are subscribed, including people with commit access.

However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik
(which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features
that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be
contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role?  I
recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to
stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break.  However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the
project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other
things.  I've been around open source long enough to know how the
process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their
projects.  Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a
distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have
to make a choice on how to move forward.  It would be best for the
community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where
they might go.

Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.

It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development.
I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be
more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think
the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the
main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that
appealing...

So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the
project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin,
it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that
is necessary to push the project forward.

For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of
running the project.

So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project,
please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important
decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement.
All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose
for this task.
I like to offer myself as co-admin candidate.
Let me know if all of you like to understand more about me.

Can we have more than 2 project admins ?

tj
Regards,
Henrik

--
T.J. Yang

Gruss

       Martin Flemming


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Notkestr. 85       phone  : 040 - 8998 - 4667
22603 Hamburg      mail   : user-f286aaa49a76@xymon.invalid
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