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list David Welker · Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:47:42 -0500 ·
In preparation of a client sending data to a Xymon server, a hosts.cfg file
was set up as follows:

page page Page
0.0.0.0  server1         # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.a      # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.b      # noconn
subpage subpage Subpage
[HOSTIP] [HOST]

Having received no data from the client yet, I would expect to see these 3
servers on the Page, instead all I see is a Page with a link to a Subpage
which correctly displays my server.  Is there a way (some configuration
setting or option) to have the servers show up on the Page with dashes (-)
for the column names until I actually receive data?

Thanks,
D
list Ryan Novosielski · Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:02:21 -0500 ·
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You don't say how your setup is done (mine for example is split between
display and network test machines), but mine DOES work that way -- as
long as the host is in the bb-hosts file (I'm still running 4.2.3) on
the machine generating the web page, it will be there with -'s.
quoted from David Welker

On 02/27/2012 01:47 PM, David Welker wrote:
In preparation of a client sending data to a Xymon server, a hosts.cfg
file was set up as follows:

page page Page
0.0.0.0  server1         # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.a      # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.b      # noconn
subpage subpage Subpage
[HOSTIP] [HOST]

Having received no data from the client yet, I would expect to see these
3 servers on the Page, instead all I see is a Page with a link to a
Subpage which correctly displays my server.  Is there a way (some
configuration setting or option) to have the servers show up on the Page
with dashes (-) for the column names until I actually receive data?
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list David Welker · Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:52:30 -0500 ·
Ryan,

Thanks for the reply.  Granted I didn't add much detail because this is in
"preparation" of adding clients, so this is just the Xymon display server
(a default install) I'm dealing with.  It's a very basic config using RH5
or RH6 (happens on both) and the latest(?) version of Xymon - 4.3.7.  I
used to play with an older version (back when it was named "Hobbit") that
did display the dashes, which is why I'm asking - to see if this is just a
new setting and/or a bug - and I've tried to make it as simple as possible
for anyone to replicate.

Thanks,
D
quoted from Ryan Novosielski

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Ryan Novosielski <user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>wrote:
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You don't say how your setup is done (mine for example is split between
display and network test machines), but mine DOES work that way -- as
long as the host is in the bb-hosts file (I'm still running 4.2.3) on
the machine generating the web page, it will be there with -'s.

On 02/27/2012 01:47 PM, David Welker wrote:
In preparation of a client sending data to a Xymon server, a hosts.cfg
file was set up as follows:

page page Page
0.0.0.0  server1         # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.a      # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.b      # noconn
subpage subpage Subpage
[HOSTIP] [HOST]

Having received no data from the client yet, I would expect to see these
3 servers on the Page, instead all I see is a Page with a link to a
Subpage which correctly displays my server.  Is there a way (some
configuration setting or option) to have the servers show up on the Page
with dashes (-) for the column names until I actually receive data?
- --
- ---- _  _ _  _ ___  _  _  _
|Y#| |  | |\/| |  \ |\ |  | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer
|$&| |__| |  | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922)
\__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/EI-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark
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list David Welker · Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:45:32 -0500 ·
Yes, Larry, that's what I'm finding.  What I was hoping is that someone
would know of a way (either via a configuration item, variable setting, or
whatever) to get these to display regardless - like they use to in older
versions.

For example, if I have a client by itself several pages down in a hierarchy
(for proper segregation) and it doesn't show up initially, there's no way
to know when or if it starts reporting - short of it eventually showing up
on the "bad page" (which might be days later), unless I continually check
for it manually.  And what if it is due to a firewall, but I forgot I put
it there (this is supposed to handle thousands of servers, I'm told)?  I
might never remember to follow up on getting the firewall fixed!

Does anyone know of a possible setting/solution, other than what was
already suggested?

Thanks,

D

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Larry Barber <user-6ef9c2864140@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I find that the dashes are display if the new server is part of a "group"
that includes other servers that are already displaying test results.
Otherwise the new server will not show up until there is a positive test
result to post. Xymon needs someway to know _what_ tests to display.

Thanks,
Larry Barber
quoted from David Welker

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:52 AM, David Welker <user-04cf53598626@xymon.invalid> wrote:
Ryan,

Thanks for the reply.  Granted I didn't add much detail because this is
in "preparation" of adding clients, so this is just the Xymon display
server (a default install) I'm dealing with.  It's a very basic config
using RH5 or RH6 (happens on both) and the latest(?) version of Xymon -
4.3.7.  I used to play with an older version (back when it was named
"Hobbit") that did display the dashes, which is why I'm asking - to see if
this is just a new setting and/or a bug - and I've tried to make it as
simple as possible for anyone to replicate.

Thanks,
D

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Ryan Novosielski <user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid>wrote:
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You don't say how your setup is done (mine for example is split between
display and network test machines), but mine DOES work that way -- as
long as the host is in the bb-hosts file (I'm still running 4.2.3) on
the machine generating the web page, it will be there with -'s.

On 02/27/2012 01:47 PM, David Welker wrote:
In preparation of a client sending data to a Xymon server, a hosts.cfg
file was set up as follows:

page page Page
0.0.0.0  server1         # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.a      # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.b      # noconn
subpage subpage Subpage
[HOSTIP] [HOST]

Having received no data from the client yet, I would expect to see
these
3 servers on the Page, instead all I see is a Page with a link to a
Subpage which correctly displays my server.  Is there a way (some
configuration setting or option) to have the servers show up on the
Page
with dashes (-) for the column names until I actually receive data?
- --
- ---- _  _ _  _ ___  _  _  _
|Y#| |  | |\/| |  \ |\ |  | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer
|$&| |__| |  | |__/ | \| _| |user-ae4522577e16@xymon.invalid - 973/972.0922 (2-0922)
\__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/EI-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark
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list Henrik Størner · Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:54:40 -0500 ·
quoted from David Welker
Den 27-02-2012 13:47, David Welker skrev:
In preparation of a client sending data to a Xymon server, a hosts.cfg
file was set up as follows:

page page Page
0.0.0.0  server1         # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.a      # noconn
0.0.0.0  server1.b      # noconn
subpage subpage Subpage
[HOSTIP] [HOST]

Having received no data from the client yet, I would expect to see these
3 servers on the Page, instead all I see is a Page with a link to a
Subpage which correctly displays my server.  Is there a way (some
configuration setting or option) to have the servers show up on the Page
with dashes (-) for the column names until I actually receive data?
No, it is a silly restriction in the xymongen tool that it won't show 
any hosts on a page until there is at least one status reported for a 
host on that page.

Regards,
Henrik