Big Bro TO Hobbit
list Jim Smith
Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Frédéric Mangeant
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Smith, Jim a écrit :
*Greetings!* ** *I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin>* ** *This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start.* **
Hi Jim you'll have to dump / restore your RRD databases, something like this : $ rrdtool dump foo.rrd > foo.xml (on the Solaris box) $ rrdtool restore foo.xml foo.rrd (on the AIX box) -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
list Paul Williamson
1. Don't do it. 2. If you must, first verify all RRDTool functionality is present. I attempted the same procedure about a year ago and I could not get RRDTool 1.x working on AIX because of some oddball problem with the shared objects and the perl module. 3. Finally, to answer your question, yes, you need to dump the RRDTool databases to XML (use rrddump) and copy the resulting files over to your AIX box then use rrdrestore to get them into the format for AIX. Paul
user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid 12/19/05 9:27 AM >>>
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Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Jim Smith
Thanks! I saw those commands in the docs but it sounded too easy. I'll give it a whirl.
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From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:user-b6ea1d850181@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:33 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
Smith, Jim a écrit :*Greetings!* ** *I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin>* ** *This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start.* **
Hi Jim you'll have to dump / restore your RRD databases, something like this : $ rrdtool dump foo.rrd > foo.xml (on the Solaris box) $ rrdtool restore foo.xml foo.rrd (on the AIX box) -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Stef Coene
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On Monday 19 December 2005 15:27, Smith, Jim wrote:
Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start.
I never tried it myself, but I know you can dump the contents of a rrd file in a ascii file (xml??). I think you can also import it to a new rrd file. Stef
list Figaro Nicolas
there is a difference between the big brother and the hobbit rrd directory structure. so : - backup your rrd files - run the moverrd.sh script attached with this mail (it was shipped with some versions of hobbit). - if it still doesn't work, try a rrdtool dump from solaris, then moverrd. sh (you have to patch the moverrd.sh to move the generated xmls), then rrdtool restore. you'll probably have to dump/restore if you're using different rrdtools (different versions). I found a moverrdxml.sh, which should include the xml move and rrd restore. take a look at this one as it may help also. Nicolas Figaro
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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Smith, Jim [mailto:user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid] Envoyé : lundi 19 décembre 2005 15:27
À : user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Objet : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
Greetings!
I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin>
This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start.
Thanks!
Jim Smith
Unix Systems Administrator
St. Vincent Health Systems
Little Rock, AR
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list Jim Smith
Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith
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-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:35 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
1. Don't do it.
2. If you must, first verify all RRDTool functionality is present. I
attempted
the same procedure about a year ago and I could not get RRDTool
1.x working on AIX because of some oddball problem with the shared
objects and the perl module.
3. Finally, to answer your question, yes, you need to dump the RRDTool
databases to XML (use rrddump) and copy the resulting files over to
your AIX box then use rrdrestore to get them into the format for AIX.
Paul
user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid 12/19/05 9:27 AM >>>
Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system. NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Jim Smith
Thanks! From: FIGARO Nicolas [mailto:user-a732b870264c@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:43 AM To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Subject: [hobbit] RE : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit there is a difference between the big brother and the hobbit rrd directory structure. so : - backup your rrd files - run the moverrd.sh script attached with this mail (it was shipped with some versions of hobbit). - if it still doesn't work, try a rrdtool dump from solaris, then moverrd. sh (you have to patch the moverrd.sh to move the generated xmls), then rrdtool restore. you'll probably have to dump/restore if you're using different rrdtools (different versions). I found a moverrdxml.sh, which should include the xml move and rrd restore. take a look at this one as it may help also. Nicolas Figaro -----Message d'origine----- De : Smith, Jim [mailto:user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid] Envoyé : lundi 19 décembre 2005 15:27 À : user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid Objet : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system. NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Paul Williamson
Yeah, my pride took one on the chin for this. It's ok, I use three AIX 5.1 BBNET servers. I decided to request an intel box and run FC4 on it. RRDTool seems to be much happier on it or Solaris. At the time though, I had been running 4.3.3 and installed stuff from both Bull and the IBM Linux toolkit. Paul
user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid 12/19/05 9:57 AM >>>
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Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith
list Jim Smith
Well, at least you now know that it CAN be done.
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-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:10 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
Yeah, my pride took one on the chin for this. It's ok, I use three AIX 5.1 BBNET servers. I decided to request an intel box and run FC4 on it. RRDTool seems to be much happier on it or Solaris.
At the time though, I had been running 4.3.3 and installed stuff from both Bull and the IBM Linux toolkit.
Paul
user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid 12/19/05 9:57 AM >>>
Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.
list Tom Kauffman
FWIW, I got BB up and running on AIX 4.3.1 on an old 43p; the biggest problem was getting perl to compile. Ran just fine, but about the time I went to AIX 5.1 it started to run out of gas. That's when I went to BBGEN. And then an old Dell 4300 came my way, and I installed SuSE on it. And then I moved to hobbit, and the 43p was completely replaced for all other finctions by a Dell 2300 (also old) running SuSE 9.0. I figure on upgrading both systems to SLES 9 next month. Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:user-b9fa55f5c833@xymon.invalid]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:10 AM
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
Yeah, my pride took one on the chin for this. It's ok, I use three
AIX 5.1 BBNET servers. I decided to request an intel box and
run FC4 on it. RRDTool seems to be much happier on it or
Solaris.
At the time though, I had been running 4.3.3 and installed stuff
from both Bull and the IBM Linux toolkit.
Paul
user-dc30f243a817@xymon.invalid 12/19/05 9:57 AM >>>
Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith