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Agentless monitoring against Win/*nix systems?

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list Carl Melgaard · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:00:56 +0100 ·
Hi,

Has anyone done agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or *NIX systems?

Regards,
Carl Melgaard
list Steven Carr · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:37:01 +0000 ·
I'm using a script that Jeremy wrote to monitor some of our linux/unix
systems, which are locked down and I'm unable to get a full Xymon client
onto, using an SSH session into them to poll them for stats etc. -
http://tools.rebel-it.com.au/xymon-rclient/

Not aware of anything for Windows that can do agentless.

Steve
quoted from Carl Melgaard


On 22 March 2012 10:00, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:
 Hi,****

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Has anyone done agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or
*NIX systems?****

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*Regards,*

*Carl Melgaard*

list Neil Simmonds · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:44:14 -0000 ·
Perhaps you could use SNMP for windows monitoring. I know when we were
using Tivoli I had some success using SNMP Informant,
http://www.snmp-informant.com/ 
 
Regards,

Neil Simmonds

 
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Of Steven Carr
Sent: 22 March 2012 10:37
To: Carl Melgaard
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Subject: Re: [Xymon] Agentless monitoring against Win/*nix systems?
quoted from Steven Carr

 
I'm using a script that Jeremy wrote to monitor some of our linux/unix
systems, which are locked down and I'm unable to get a full Xymon client
onto, using an SSH session into them to poll them for stats etc. -
http://tools.rebel-it.com.au/xymon-rclient/

Not aware of anything for Windows that can do agentless.

Steve


On 22 March 2012 10:00, Carl Melgaard <user-cdea55422fa4@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Hi,

 
Has anyone done agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or
*NIX systems?

 
Regards,

Carl Melgaard


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list Ulric Eriksson · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:15:18 +0100 ·
 I would suggest WMI.

 Ulric
list Steven Carr · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:43:36 +0000 ·
Yeah, there are plenty of methods to do remote monitoring of Windows
(SNMP/WMI/RemoteMGMT/Powershell) but that's not what he asked. He asked has
anyone done this with Xymon.

Xymon itself doesn't have the capability to do that, it would need to be
done through some external program and the data fed into Xymon (like
devmon's use for SNMP polling - though again hardly agentless as you would
need to install an SNMP agent on all the systems).

There is no easy way of accessing WMI or Powershell from a Linux/UNIX
server against Windows, the tools are few and far between and most will
require manual effort to first build the packages, then secondly write
something around them to get the information and pipe it into Xymon.

Steve


On 22 March 2012 11:15, <user-de31148ebe0c@xymon.invalid> wrote:
I would suggest WMI.

Ulric

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list Ulric Eriksson · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:08:47 +0100 ·
quoted from Steven Carr

 On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:43:36 +0000, Steven Carr wrote:
Yeah, there are plenty of methods to do remote monitoring of Windows
(SNMP/WMI/RemoteMGMT/Powershell) but thats not what he asked. He 
asked
has anyone done this with Xymon.
 It is not very helpful to narrow it down like that, because then the 
 answer is that it is impossible.

 Ulric
list Steven Carr · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:28:03 +0000 ·
How is that narrowing it down? that is what he asked! "Has anyone done
agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or *NIX systems?" - read
the original question in future.

And it's not impossible, it just hasn't been done (to my knowledge) with
Xymon, other monitoring solutions may have that functionality but chances
are they have a whole team of developers behind them writing the code and
you will be charged a license/support fee for the end result.

I'm sure if someone wants to write the code for Xymon to have that
functionality Henrik will be more than grateful to integrate it into the
Xymon codebase.

Steve
quoted from Ulric Eriksson


On 22 March 2012 12:08, <user-de31148ebe0c@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:43:36 +0000, Steven Carr wrote:
Yeah, there are plenty of methods to do remote monitoring of Windows
(SNMP/WMI/RemoteMGMT/**Powershell) but thats not what he asked. He asked

has anyone done this with Xymon.
It is not very helpful to narrow it down like that, because then the
answer is that it is impossible.


Ulric
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list Ulric Eriksson · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:35:16 +0100 ·
quoted from Steven Carr

 On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:28:03 +0000, Steven Carr wrote:
How is that narrowing it down? that is what he asked! "Has anyone done
agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or *NIX systems?"
- read the original question in future.
 I did read the original question and gave a helpful answer. Just  answering "it is impossible" is a useless waste of everybody's time when  what he wants to accomplish is clearly possible, only not with Xymon  alone.

 Ulric
list Steven Carr · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:42:48 +0000 ·
Only I never said "it was impossible", you did.
quoted from Ulric Eriksson


On 22 March 2012 12:35, <user-de31148ebe0c@xymon.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:28:03 +0000, Steven Carr wrote:
How is that narrowing it down? that is what he asked! "Has anyone done
agentless monitoring with Xymon against Windows and/or *NIX systems?"
- read the original question in future.
I did read the original question and gave a helpful answer. Just answering
"it is impossible" is a useless waste of everybody's time when what he
wants to accomplish is clearly possible, only not with Xymon alone.


Ulric
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list Scot Kreienkamp · Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:00:14 +0000 ·
Gentlemen,

While everyone's contributions and viewpoints are good to hear, the signal to noise ratio of this particular conversation is getting very bad.

Please take it off list if you want to continue.  Or just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Scot Kreienkamp
user-462cf0b6d846@xymon.invalid


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