depends tag?

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list Eric Meddaugh · Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:44:40 -0500 ·

 

We have the following:

 
x.x.x.x     hostA           # ssh 

 
y.y.y.y     hostB         # ssh
ldap://hostB.rit.edu:389/ou=People,dc=rit,dc=edu?uid?sub?(uid=authtest)
depends=(conn:hostA/conn),(ldap:hostA/conn)

 
These run Solaris 10 zones.  hostA is the physical system, hostB is a
zone within hostA.  So if the hostA goes down, then hostB will be down
also.    However it appears that if the "conn" test fails for hostA, it
fails for hostB also, but hostB "conn" shows red, not clear.

 
Is this correct?  We have many Solaris 10 zones that if the physical
host goes down, then all the zones will fail the test too.  We don't
want to be emailed (or paged) with massive amounts of hosts going down,
when we know that other host test will fail.

 
Thanks.

 
---Eric

list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:49:12 -0600 ·

I reported a similar problem several weeks ago on SLES9.

▸ quoted from Eric Meddaugh


Eric Meddaugh wrote:

 
We have the following:

 
x.x.x.x     hostA           # ssh

 
y.y.y.y     hostB         # ssh ldap://hostB.rit.edu:389/ou=People,dc=rit,dc=edu?uid?sub?(uid=authtest) depends=(conn:hostA/conn),(ldap:hostA/conn)

 
These run Solaris 10 zones.  hostA is the physical system, hostB is a zone within hostA.  So if the hostA goes down, then hostB will be down also.    However it appears that if the “conn” test fails for hostA, it fails for hostB also, but hostB “conn” shows red, not clear.

 
Is this correct?  We have many Solaris 10 zones that if the physical host goes down, then all the zones will fail the test too.  We don’t want to be emailed (or paged) with massive amounts of hosts going down, when we know that other host test will fail.

 
Thanks.

 
---Eric

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list Greg L Hubbard · Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:11:17 -0600 ·

Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.  Don't let all the
router talk in the documentation throw you...
 
x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA
 
GLH

▸ quoted from Eric Meddaugh



	From: Eric Meddaugh [mailto:user-4e1e735fdc96@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:45 AM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: [hobbit] depends tag?
	
	
	We have the following:

	 
	x.x.x.x     hostA           # ssh 

	 
	y.y.y.y     hostB         # ssh
ldap://hostB.rit.edu:389/ou=People,dc=rit,dc=edu?uid?sub?(uid=authtest)
depends=(conn:hostA/conn),(ldap:hostA/conn)

	 
	These run Solaris 10 zones.  hostA is the physical system, hostB
is a zone within hostA.  So if the hostA goes down, then hostB will be
down also.    However it appears that if the "conn" test fails for
hostA, it fails for hostB also, but hostB "conn" shows red, not clear.

	 
	Is this correct?  We have many Solaris 10 zones that if the
physical host goes down, then all the zones will fail the test too.  We
don't want to be emailed (or paged) with massive amounts of hosts going
down, when we know that other host test will fail.

	 
	Thanks.

	 
	---Eric

list Eric Meddaugh · Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:55:30 -0500 ·

Exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks so much!

 
---Eric

▸ quoted from Greg L Hubbard


 
From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:11
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: RE: [hobbit] depends tag?

 
Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.  Don't let all the
router talk in the documentation throw you...

 
x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh

y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA

 
GLH

 
	From: Eric Meddaugh [mailto:user-4e1e735fdc96@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:45 AM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: [hobbit] depends tag?

	 
	We have the following:

	 
	x.x.x.x     hostA           # ssh 

	 
	y.y.y.y     hostB         # ssh
ldap://hostB.rit.edu:389/ou=People,dc=rit,dc=edu?uid?sub?(uid=authtest)
depends=(conn:hostA/conn),(ldap:hostA/conn)

	 
	These run Solaris 10 zones.  hostA is the physical system, hostB
is a zone within hostA.  So if the hostA goes down, then hostB will be
down also.    However it appears that if the "conn" test fails for
hostA, it fails for hostB also, but hostB "conn" shows red, not clear.

	 
	Is this correct?  We have many Solaris 10 zones that if the
physical host goes down, then all the zones will fail the test too.  We
don't want to be emailed (or paged) with massive amounts of hosts going
down, when we know that other host test will fail.

	 
	Thanks.

	 
	---Eric

list Rich Smrcina · Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:20:38 -0600 ·

Sweet!  Works for me too!  Thanks.

▸ quoted from Eric Meddaugh


Hubbard, Greg L wrote:

Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.  Don't let all the 
router talk in the documentation throw you...
 
x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA
 
GLH

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list Jerry Yu · Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:34:29 -0500 ·

we don't use ping at all. can I specify a service (ssh or other abitrary
service) of hostA instead? In other words, will the following work? The man
page of bb-hosts made it sounds like 'route:router1,route2' replies on ping
or something?

x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA.ssh

▸ quoted from Rich Smrcina


On 11/9/06, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Sweet!  Works for me too!  Thanks.

Hubbard, Greg L wrote:

Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.  Don't let all the
router talk in the documentation throw you...

x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA

GLH

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list Greg L Hubbard · Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:47:00 -0600 ·

I think the route tag will suppress some of the tests if conn fails.
Otherwise you are out of luck.  I believe that some sort of general
"root cause" or "dependency-based suppression" is on Henrik's "to do"
list (if I remember a previous post), but probably not at the top, and
certainly not in the current version of the product.
 
GLH

▸ quoted from Jerry Yu



	From: Jerry Yu [mailto:user-764c1f364fe0@xymon.invalid] 
	Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:34 PM
	To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] depends tag?
	
	
	we don't use ping at all. can I specify a service (ssh or other
abitrary service) of hostA instead? In other words, will the following
work? The man page of bb-hosts made it sounds like
'route:router1,route2' replies on ping or something? 
	
	x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
	y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA.ssh
	
	
	On 11/9/06, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid > wrote: 

		Sweet!  Works for me too!  Thanks.
		
		Hubbard, Greg L wrote:

Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.

Don't let all the

router talk in the documentation throw you...

x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA

GLH

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		VM Assist, Inc.
		Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
		Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
		user-61add9955ef9@xymon.invalid
		
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list Jerry Yu · Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:19:30 -0500 ·

thanks for the info, Greg. I guess I'll set up the PING (or CONN) test for
that host then.

▸ quoted from Greg L Hubbard


On 11/10/06, Hubbard, Greg L <user-d970b5e56ec9@xymon.invalid> wrote:

 I think the route tag will suppress some of the tests if conn fails.
Otherwise you are out of luck.  I believe that some sort of general "root
cause" or "dependency-based suppression" is on Henrik's "to do" list (if I
remember a previous post), but probably not at the top, and certainly not in
the current version of the product.

GLH

*From:* Jerry Yu [mailto:user-764c1f364fe0@xymon.invalid]
*Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2006 12:34 PM
*To:* user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
*Subject:* Re: [hobbit] depends tag?

we don't use ping at all. can I specify a service (ssh or other abitrary
service) of hostA instead? In other words, will the following work? The man
page of bb-hosts made it sounds like 'route:router1,route2' replies on ping
or something?

x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA.ssh

On 11/9/06, Rich Smrcina <user-cf452ff334e0@xymon.invalid > wrote:

Sweet!  Works for me too!  Thanks.

Hubbard, Greg L wrote:

Try using the "route" tag to set up the dependencies.  Don't let all
the
router talk in the documentation throw you...

x.x.x.x hostA     # ssh
y.y.y.y hostB    # ssh route:hostA

GLH

--
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VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ans Service:  XXX-XXX-XXXX
user-61add9955ef9@xymon.invalid

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list Klaus Hustert · Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:59:00 +0100 ·

Hello folks,
when I am checking the disk fs graphs and trying to get a detailed view with using the zoom (little loupe on the right side of the graph),
I get the view from an other disk instead of the disk for what I am looking for.
e.g. I am interessted in /nfs/exp, I am using the loupe and get the graph from an other filesystem like /aldv/*


 it is switching the view to

[Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0]

Any ideas?

Regards,
Klaus

list Jason Altrincham Jones · Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:32:02 -0000 ·

Which versions of hobbit and rrd are you using?

Jason.

▸ quoted from Klaus Hustert

From: Klaus Hustert [mailto:user-381ffbe9b975@xymon.invalid] 
Sent: 24 November 2006 09:59
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] little bug in zooming graphs?

Hello folks,
when I am checking the disk fs graphs and trying to get a detailed view
with using the zoom (little loupe on the right side of the graph),
I get the view from an other disk instead of the disk for what I am
looking for.
e.g. I am interessted in /nfs/exp, I am using the loupe and get the
graph from an other filesystem like /aldv/*

it is switching the view to


[Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0] <http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>;  
<http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/>; 

Any ideas?

Regards,
Klaus

list Thomas Seglard · Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:36:09 +0100 ·

Hello Klaus,

I got this "problem" too. You certainly have some FS that were deleted on your server... Try to remove the rrd(s) corresponding to these non-existing FS in your "$BBHOME/data/rrd/{servername}/disk,[fsname].rrd" and try again. You may want to try a "find . -mtime 10" in the rrd directory to locate not updated rrds.
Sincerly,

Thomas

Klaus Hustert <user-381ffbe9b975@xymon.invalid> a écrit sur 24/11/2006 10:59:00 :

▸ quoted from Jason Altrincham Jones

Hello folks,
when I am checking the disk fs graphs and trying to get a detailed view with using the zoom (little loupe on the right side of the graph),
I get the view from an other disk instead of the disk for what I am looking for.
e.g. I am interessted in /nfs/exp, I am using the loupe and get the graph from an other filesystem like /aldv/*


[image supprimée] [image supprimée] [image supprimée] it is switching the view to
[image supprimée] [Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0]

Any ideas?

Regards,
Klaus


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list Klaus Hustert · Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:10:29 +0100 ·

Hello Jason,
Hobbit Monitor is version 4.2.0 and rrdtool is 1.0.49.

▸ quoted from Thomas Seglard


Thomas Seglard Enata wrote:
Hello Klaus,
I got this "problem" too. You certainly have some FS that were deleted on your server... Try to remove the rrd(s) corresponding to these non-existing FS in your "$BBHOME/data/rrd/{servername}/disk,[fsname].rrd" and try again. You may want to try a "find . -mtime 10" in the rrd directory to locate not updated rrds.


This solution is a bit problematical for a cluster environment, because of when a package is switching to another host you will never get rid of it without loosing history data.
Best regards,
Klaus

▸ quoted from Thomas Seglard

Which versions of hobbit and rrd are you using?
Jason.

From: Klaus Hustert [mailto:user-381ffbe9b975@xymon.invalid] Sent: 24 November 2006 09:59
To: user-ae9b8668bcde@xymon.invalid
Subject: [hobbit] little bug in zooming graphs?
 Hello folks,
when I am checking the disk fs graphs and trying to get a detailed view with using the zoom (little loupe on the right side of the graph),
I get the view from an other disk instead of the disk for what I am looking for.
e.g. I am interessted in /nfs/exp, I am using the loupe and get the graph from an other filesystem like /aldv/*

it is switching the view to

[Hobbit Monitor 4.2.0]

Any ideas?

Regards,
Klaus

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