Hobbit tracking of data from ORCA

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list Henrik Størner · Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:27:13 +0200 ·

Our Solaris group here is using ORCA to collect various performance
metrics about their servers.

However, the ORCA data collection is somewhat fickle, and it is 
annoying to have two systems tracking data. So the question was:
Can Hobbit be used to collect these data instead ?

I've had a look at ORCA, and it does seem like it would be possible
to just use the ORCA data collector (orcallator.se) and feed those
data into Hobbit. A special back-end module could then process these
into RRD files, and graph them with hobbitgraph. This would be rather
trivial to do - most of the work would be to setup the hobbitgraph
definitions to match those graphs currently available in ORCA.

But before I do that - how many people are actually using ORCA?
Their website appears to be on-line, but no updates have appeared
for a couple of years.


Regards,
Henrik

list Larry Sherman · Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:14:34 -0400 ·

We use it.  We use orcallator for the BB server, we wrote our agent to
collect files for a "tempallator."  We wrote another one for a
"ticallator" to track TIC statistics (a Cache Server for Real Time
data).  We use the procollator for Linux.  

To be frank, the tempallator is the most valuable, and we rarely look at
the others.  We wrote a web front-end to the data called heatmap, which
looks up the location of the server name in a db, and puts it in the
correct cab location in the DC.  The map shows the rows of cabs, the
color of the cab is set by the hottest machine (hard-coded thresholds).
Click on the cab to see the machines.

Kind of off tangent I know, but I think you could do the same in hobbit:

Page dc Prod DC

0.0.0.0 Row_1 # noconn
0.0.0.0 Row_2 # noconn
0.0.0.0 Row_3 # noconn
Etc

Then have a script that sent the data in the form of row_1.cab1, etc.  


Larry

▸ quoted from Henrik Størner

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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:27 AM
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Subject: [hobbit] Hobbit tracking of data from ORCA

Our Solaris group here is using ORCA to collect various performance
metrics about their servers.

However, the ORCA data collection is somewhat fickle, and it is 
annoying to have two systems tracking data. So the question was:
Can Hobbit be used to collect these data instead ?

I've had a look at ORCA, and it does seem like it would be possible
to just use the ORCA data collector (orcallator.se) and feed those
data into Hobbit. A special back-end module could then process these
into RRD files, and graph them with hobbitgraph. This would be rather
trivial to do - most of the work would be to setup the hobbitgraph
definitions to match those graphs currently available in ORCA.

But before I do that - how many people are actually using ORCA?
Their website appears to be on-line, but no updates have appeared
for a couple of years.

Regards,
Henrik

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list John Glowacki · Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:24:08 -0400 ·

That would be great. We have plans to move ORCA to a new server in the 
next month.

▸ quoted from Larry Sherman


Henrik Stoerner wrote:

Our Solaris group here is using ORCA to collect various performance
metrics about their servers.

However, the ORCA data collection is somewhat fickle, and it is 
annoying to have two systems tracking data. So the question was:
Can Hobbit be used to collect these data instead ?

I've had a look at ORCA, and it does seem like it would be possible
to just use the ORCA data collector (orcallator.se) and feed those
data into Hobbit. A special back-end module could then process these
into RRD files, and graph them with hobbitgraph. This would be rather
trivial to do - most of the work would be to setup the hobbitgraph
definitions to match those graphs currently available in ORCA.

But before I do that - how many people are actually using ORCA?
Their website appears to be on-line, but no updates have appeared
for a couple of years.


Regards,
Henrik

list Gräub Roland · Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:05 +0200 ·

Hello

We use ORCA. It was build up here 3 years ago by a external worker. He build a php menu in that we can select hosts and graphs, selecting 2 or more hosts then its possible to compare the hosts. Most clients are Solaris machines (Orcaserver runs on Solaris), also some HP-Unix and Linux machines are in ORCA.

Yes it seems there are no update made for orca. Also a problem is that richpse/SEToolkit devlopment is stopped. We have problems with Orca (richpse) when Sun change the names of the network controllers. In the mailinglist is still some activity http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-users/

I think its a good idea to get this 2 parts together.  

Regards
Roland

▸ quoted from John Glowacki


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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Betreff: [hobbit] Hobbit tracking of data from ORCA

Our Solaris group here is using ORCA to collect various performance
metrics about their servers.

However, the ORCA data collection is somewhat fickle, and it is 
annoying to have two systems tracking data. So the question was:
Can Hobbit be used to collect these data instead ?

I've had a look at ORCA, and it does seem like it would be possible
to just use the ORCA data collector (orcallator.se) and feed those
data into Hobbit. A special back-end module could then process these
into RRD files, and graph them with hobbitgraph. This would be rather
trivial to do - most of the work would be to setup the hobbitgraph
definitions to match those graphs currently available in ORCA.

But before I do that - how many people are actually using ORCA?
Their website appears to be on-line, but no updates have appeared
for a couple of years.


Regards,
Henrik

list Asif Iqbal · Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:44:50 -0400 ·

▸ quoted from Gräub Roland

On 6/20/06, Henrik Stoerner <user-ce4a2c883f75@xymon.invalid> wrote:

Our Solaris group here is using ORCA to collect various performance
metrics about their servers.

However, the ORCA data collection is somewhat fickle, and it is
annoying to have two systems tracking data. So the question was:
Can Hobbit be used to collect these data instead ?

I've had a look at ORCA, and it does seem like it would be possible
to just use the ORCA data collector (orcallator.se) and feed those
data into Hobbit. A special back-end module could then process these
into RRD files, and graph them with hobbitgraph. This would be rather
trivial to do - most of the work would be to setup the hobbitgraph
definitions to match those graphs currently available in ORCA.

But before I do that - how many people are actually using ORCA?


I would love to see ORCA get integrated with hobbit since we are mostly a
Solaris shop. I was as a matter of fact  going thru the ORCA setup  written
by Amy Rich on bigadmin site for Solaris. Here is the url:

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/articles/orca.html

▸ quoted from Gräub Roland



Their website appears to be on-line, but no updates have appeared

for a couple of years.


Regards,
Henrik

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